Dave the Mic

In fairness, there have been very few people who have threatened Hans, but this is a forum & everyone is entitled to their opinion. Threats are OTT, but opinions are there to be shared. Bear in mind, if he hadn't shut off, won the race & PK caught him or just stayed ahead of Scott, there would be no issue. As it is, he has bought the sport into disrepute by his actions. That cannot be questioned, nor can his smug attitude in interview. His non appearance at Eastbourne tonight (if that is so) demonstrates to me that he knows he did wrong. If there was nothing to be ashamed of, he would race.

Not sure if I am a bit slow off the mark, but I have seen on the GP website that the date for next year's British GP has been announced as the 11th June. Tickets on sale now!!! Sorry if everyone has already seen this.

Don't let FR get to you folks, the stirring is only being done because the Aussies weren't even good enough to reach the final, never mind challenge to win it & Ryan was anything but "flyin." Ignore those posts as they should be ignored & they will stop.

Neil, The fact that you were prepared to post here after what happened on Saturday speaks volumes for your character & you as a person. I take my hat off to you sir. You & your team deserved all the support you got & more. The name on the trophy may be Sweden, but no-one in the team GB set up could be faulted for their grit, determination, drive, ambition & desire. Many expected team GB to sink without trace in this competiton, but just a single point stopped you from becoming champions of the world. Silver was more than so many thought you & your team capable of & the whole team won a new army of fans last night. Your efforts deserved nothing less & when the boys were asked to stand up & be counted, yourself included, they did to a man. Take a bow, Neil Middleditch & the six riders who donned the team GB colours with such distinction this last week. You made me proud to say "I'm British." Winners all.

Good post Bob

I think Old Saint has it spot on. Nicholls may or may not have caught PK, the fact is we'll never know. What is certain, though is that the Swedish victory was tainted by some "assistance" from Andersen. As Old Saint says, I suspect some of them may feel a little embarassed by what happened. In fairness, they shouldn't. Also, the most valid point I have seen since the last heat was that made by Nevs, in that after 100 heats of top class speedway, with a final that goes to the last heat, some donkey tinges the meeting, tournament & sport as a whole by his actions.

Italics?

Oh yes.

i'm not missing the point (Nicholls has already done that tonight )... but the point i'm trying to make is that there are 3 others that didn't see the red light... just what was Nicholls seeing? i have a powerful auto-focus flash that produces the short bursts of red light, and i know what he says he saw, but the other 3 kept going Yes Steve, because perhaps they didn't see it. The 2 riders in front had perhaps passed where the light came from & NP was shielded by being behind Scotty. The fact is YOU don't know what he saw, he did. And I think it is reasonable to assume that no speedway rider would stop racing in that situation just because it seemed like a good idea. You have ridden a speedway bike, obviously not at this level, but riders have it ingrained into their racing psyche that if a red light is shown, they stop. If you honestly believe that he saw nothing & in a similar situation you would have acted differently, then good for you, that makes you a better man than him.

If you honestly believe what you wrote JY2003 you are even sadder than I gave you credit for I really don't care how sad you think i am.... JY, if you honestly believe your original post, there is no place for you here. Speedway is not about bribes & cheating, unless you happen to be hans Andersen of course. I hope your comment was tongue in cheek, but if not, you should be ashamed of yourself.

Timing not your strong suit Sting, obviously.

!) Splatty, your point concerning referees being able to stop races where a rider is baulked but doesn't necessarily fall is spot on. Been saying it for years. 2) Steve, no mate, you have missed the point. Why would Scott stop for no reason? To deliberately loe a point. Of course, makes perfect sense. 3) Ref's decisions are one thing, cheating is another. Bates is certainly not the best referee in the game - far from it - but he cannot influence what riders do or don't do on track. A referee calls it how he sees it (right or wrong) most refs decisions even themselves out over the course of most meetings. What Andersen did, however, was blatant cheating. What else can you call it? Whether Scott would have caught PK or not isn't the point here. The point is, Andersen "team rode" with a rider from another team. If nothing else he was not making a bona fide attempt to race & factually that is against the rules. In the grand scheme of things, winnning the World Cup or not isn't going to end thirld world famine, but what Andersen did tonight was a disgrace & he should be ashamed of himself as a sportsman & a human being.

That's a quality post. And how you can call them bottlers? How many World Cup Finals have you ridden? Crawl back under your stone.

Sting, are you for real?

Because he saw a red light & the others didn't. Scott is a racer & wouldn't shut off & put his hand up for no reason. If you can't say anything sensible don't say anything.

What an absolute load of rubbish. He shut off, anyone who says different is as bad as he is.

Indeed, congratulations to Sweden.

Hands up who said the inclusion of Havvy was a poor decision. Have yourselves a very large slice of humble pie. Those of us brave enough to stand up & be counted in defence of one of our very few World Champions should be proud to be English tonight. As should Havvy. 9 points - which would have been 11 but for Nicki Pedersen's usual rush of blood - was as good as Joe scored on Monday (no criticism of Joe intended) & arguably in a tougher meeting. Not just that, but how he earned them! He raced for every single point & there was no-one prouder to wear that flag tonight & he showed what it means to represent your country. Anyone who says he let England down - exit stage left. Havvy, you rode a blinder.

Iggy, Mark would have won the title anyway. Shooting Star, it's not sour grapes, it's called cheating. End of story.

Yeah, no problem Iris. GB & Sweden Level going into heat 25. Andersen gated & let PK by so Sweden could win it. I don't care if I get a ban either. Andersen is a t0sser. He should be banned. I hope he made decent money out of it. And did he think everyone is blind? Who was he kidding in his interview? I hope he gets what's coming to him at every track in England. Well done to Middlo & the boys - you did us proud & deserved to win.

What a load of crap.

For me:- Tommy Jansson Kenny Carter Phil Crump Dave Jessup

Well, we'll see, won't we Peter!

I'm with you Norm

That's hardly fair. In Denmark the tracks are always prepared exactly how the Danes like them. In Poland the same is the case. Why should that not be the case in this country? It's because Olsen will have the track prepared how his Danish team like it. Olsen might be the "race director" (dictator), but first, he is a Dane & he does all he can to give them an advantage. Ergo, he has too much power.