comebackkings

When did Barker qualify?

I hope the new potters riders will enjoy the new forgiving safety fence?!!!! Having seen riders slide under the air fence at Gloomy rd, the new Steel barrier will be most welcoming, Not!

Depends on which Jack Hargreaves turns up to ride. If its the one that wants to ride then he will do well, if its the wannabe playboy his average will halve. I have to admit I liked watching Jack at Stoke, I hope that a bit of maturity will be the final ingredient in him making a go at Speedway.

Isherw0000d, wow what a suprise. I hope someone can help him get out of the starts, it always looks like he is riding with an automatic clutch. Good luck to whomever posts this on PP. :lol:

An independant body not an independant person. Where are the checks and balances with an individual running the league? His own personal feelings and bias will always cloud his judgement.

Just look at the setup for helping young riders in Poland, Denmark and Sweden, from a very young age they are nurtured and developed to be the complete package. It is not a 100% foolproof setup though, Lindback went off the rails, a few of the Danes have come over and flopped as have some Swedes. For every Lewis Bridger with the talent and the opportunity there are 10 Barrie Evans, Luke Priests, Simon Lamberts and Simon Walkers who are having to graft their way up the leagues, so the sweeping statement about young Brits is very harsh. Until the BSPA take the comission off the Tango one for his "brokering" of the SKY deal and put it into the under 15's or younger 250 and 80cc development leagues. Or use some of the money from the EL/PL to help. Then young Brits will always be shovelling ball bearings uphill to break into this sport. At the moment it helps the promoters to bring in untried foreign riders on low averages. When they start looking to the welfare of the sport rather than their own self interest then they will be fit to run the sport, until then they should be removed from the running of the teambuilding rules and an independant panel should be doing it. P.S I forgot to add that your critisism of Ben Barker is unfounded as well, away from the track he may let his hair down, but when it comes to his machinery, fitness and attitude to his racing it is 110% professional.

It will be yet another Ricky Wells, 3 point PL rider struggling to score a point. Untill the BSPA enforce British only reserves in every side in the EL and PL, promoters will continue to bend and break the rules they set to bring in these medeocre foreignors.

I await your opinions of how well the Stoke promotion treats its paying customers. It shouldn't take too long for you to see the unprofessional way that meetings are held. Your attitude of if you don't like it don't do, comes across as very arrogant, I hope you don't act that way to everyone you meet at Stoke, they do not suffer fools gladly at Loomer Rd.

If you had experienced just a few meetings in the past seasons, perhaps you would understand the anger. One article in the Speedway Star will not weigh against years of broken promises, abuse of supporters and general missmanagement of Mr and Mrs Tantrum. But what would us "internet wallahs" know.

I have to admit to seeing many good meetings at NL level, but I have seen a few processional ones as well, the majority of poor meetings that I saw were at Stoke with the Spitfires. That is what the crowds at Stoke remember, I don't envy your position Malcolm, you have to change a lot of years of neglect of the customers. Stoke's track should be ideal for NL racing, it is a racers circuit and gives many lines into the corners, I hope that the NL takes off at Stoke and that the crowds will return. All I ask is that the presentation of the product on display at Stoke is improved, it shouldn't be hard to do on last years performance.

Great to see the Colts returning to Speedway. Wait for the new PC to come through the ranks.

There are only 50 odd posters who regularly post on PP, and most polls are answered by 60 to 70 its only a small minority of the actual crowd at Stoke. However, if Stoke don't set the NL on fire from the very start and the promotion do not improve the presentation of the product there will continue to be a decline in numbers. There are a number of fans that will continue to go on a Saturday night,mainly just to see what the racing will be like. If there are still generator problems, constant tractor racing, sun breaks followed by intervals meaning 4 hour meetings, poor public relations and the product is not up to standard, then Big Lad will be correct and the speedway crowd will decline. This season is a big one for Stoke, mainly for the promotion to mend a few bridges with their PAYING CUSTOMERS.

It would still be run better than the classroom antics of the 2 "higher" leagues

It needs to be 100% more professionally run than the PL effort last year. Breaking generators, constant tractor racing and crazy call offs will not bring the punters back in.

If stoke sign the likes of Gareth Isherw0000d and Jonathon Bethnell then they will fold in 1 year. Sorry to be blunt, but this is a make or break season for the Potters. The stay away fans will not return to a team of previous under acheivers. Barrie Evans might be a good start, but the only other assetts on Vog's list are Isherw0000d, Lowe and Tom Brown, and I heard a rumour he had retired????

How can Stoke be so bad at promoting the product though, they have 2 pressmen, one of which does a good job, and I don't mean Neil Adams either. They have the people there, one of the best team managers in Malcolm Vasey, and the fans that want to support the team, the website and forum is full of good ideas, but why can't the promotion see their own failings? I can only come to the conclusion that Dave and Caroline Tattum are the ones holding the Potters back. Perhaps its time to see if someone else is able to take the team forward?

Self serving promoters. With no interest in British speedway, just their own clubs. How many clubs run training schools, or give young riders the opportunity to practice. I understand tracks that have other events staged there, Football, Rugby or Banger racing etc. Vojens is a copy of Loomer road in Stoke (The track, not the facilities, I hasten to add). A track that is not used for anything else, the Danes practice there, so why not Team GB?

Team GB will never be good enough to do anything in the SWC while we continue to allow second rate foreign riders to stop British riders from getting a team place. Why are Poland so good? They give Polish riders team places and a chance to ride in their top leagues. While we allow teams to track a team of non Brits we will always be second rate. Waits for the "little englander" comments to follow. Apart from that the GB lads did everything they could in tricky conditions. Well done to the Poles on a well deserved victory, from last place after 5 heats as well.

There were more than enough passes tonight. Gollobs "team ride" with the Russian who was riding his nuts off to try to pass him, was class. Adams had some superb first bends as well. If Monday night is as good then it will be an entertaining evening. Doubled my money with Skybets heat by heat deal as well.

Robbie Kessler uses a Red baron symbol, and he is of Germanic decent.

Never heard any germans bitching about "DER BOMBER" Gert Muller. Plus noone from France, Britain, Belgium, Holland or Luxenbourg were much bothered about "DER KAISER" Franz Beckenbauer. So its COME ON BOMBER!!!!!!

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I don't think that it was the refs fault, in Gollob, Rickkardson and Andersen we have 3 riders who will deliberately lean on an opponent and put down their bikes in an attempt to get a rerun and an exclusion. It is the ultimate Professional foul, just the same as staying down on the track to get a rerun when your partner is on the recieving end of a 5-1 and you fall off. The rules were not written for the likes of these cheats, and referees will need to be very good to see it in the short time they are allowed to make their decisions, when a televised meeting is running late as tonights was.

Its a simple solution, only allow foreign riders to have an 8 point or more average. That will cut the cheap dross that is blocking the leagues for the British riders.

Another intelligent post from Pinny. It seems not just Crumpy has to grow up.