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I totally agree the team aspect has disappeared, i dont know if its because nowadays riders are team mates one night and opponents the next there does feel more familiarity in the pits than there used to be. That edge of real rivalry between teams doesnt exist today. Ive never forgot the scenes in the early 70,s during the heat 13 fracas against Leicester, that passion is nowhere to be found today. Riders were loyal to their clubs as you said it was their club, i could never imagine Wilkie, PC, Mort at another club similar Lee was always associated with Kings Lynn along with Betts, Louis and Sanders at Ipswich etc, but they wernt riding for 3 or 4 clubs every other night. I dont know if it makes a difference but riding against someone on a Monday and then with them as team mates on Tuesday there must be more familiarity. Just a thought you are better qualified to judge if this does have an effect. Teams also used to ride as teams good team riding was common place, nowadays in the main its gate and go and leave your team mate to it, team meetings are now individual with the odd rare exception.

If we ride like we did last week heats 13 and 15 wont save us we need more from Cook and Blodorn and Ipswich are stronger at reserve.

Good points, as for Monday i would tend to say smaller if it is then that is a worry with the likes of Dan, Brady, Doyley, and Emil.

Do you think what BSN pay out to the clubs cover the loss of revenue due to less footfall into the stadium, i would think many families 2 adults + 2 children would make a good saving watching at home? It would be interesting to see how much tv and streaming costs clubs on race day.

During the boom years of the seventies no investment into the sport was made and so began the slow downward spiral that has led to the current situation.

Its sad to see another club disappear and fair play to Tolley for giving it a go and putting his money in but crowd levels have shown there is no appetite for speedway in Birmingham, crazy to think how many clubs have been lost just in London and the West Midlands alone.

Perhaps it would have been better not to comment on Brady at all, hypocrisy, probably couldnt resist adding another negative comment towards BV as seems the case with him.

What would they be saying about PC finishing second in the world days after shattering his leg at Hyde Road, riding with 300 stitches and being lifted on and off his bike? And being there he was unlucky not to actually win and in terrible conditions too.

Just his usual anti Belle Vue comment, never seen him post anything else.

With Kvech Stars would have been comfy winners, Boldorn has not improved Cook not good enough and the worst reserves, this team if qualifying for the play off doesnt get past the semis in my opinion.

Well done Kings Lynn they were the better more compact side tonight and with Kvech would have won, i dont think we have as big an home advantage as people believe, what we do have is Dan and Brady and we do rely on heats 13 and 15, we certainly dont have the engine room or reserves especially considering our away form to challenge this season, even without Kvech if Lawson had come to the party we could have been in trouble.

To be honest mate many people dont even go to their local tracks anymore let alone ones abroad i can remember 4- 5 figure attendences for all tracks at one time, couldnt believe it when one estimate at Birmingham reckoned about 500 well short of semi pro football clubs, the decline is really sad speedway at Premiership level especially is hanging by a thread. Be interesting to look at British speedway in the sixties and seventies and how it slowly declined to what we have today and compare it to where Poland was then and what it has become today.

At least his missus wont have to don the Bartoz mask 😗

Cardiff holds 75,500 how would that look? Given the crowds and cost of putting in a temporary track you can see why they pulled the plug.

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No keyboard warriors in those days

I dont get why so many non Belle Vue fans are bothered about this if Doyle had done the same thing it wouldnt bother me and really British speedway has fallen so far now there really isnt any point mithering, speedway in GB is what it is.

Cant argue with Doyles committment to British speedway, ive always been a fan, stop having a go at Belle Vue remember we signed him from Poole that rule breaking is firmly entrenched 🤣

Even that didnt stop us 😀

And that after 29 barren seasons, the club doesnt have a bad history does it? Even beat Hitler 😀

We wont get past the semis with Brady, too inconsistent in the middle order and weak reserves, that we will walk into the play offs though show how weak this league is.

I totally agree ive followed semi professional football for years and have a season ticket for Ashton United, travelling around grounds in the Northern Premier League and other leagues around the country attendences at many grounds are better than the reported numbers given at a lot of speedway tracks. I also think the Championship is a better product, more tracks suited to good racing Scunny, Redcar, Workington, Glasgow for example, more variety not seeing the same team every other week, and as we saw at the British Final you dont need a GP line up to produce good racing. Where Premiership speedway goes from here is anyones guess.

I think we will qualify for the play offs but we wont get past the semis.

Every club is woefully attended to what it used to be and it gets worse every season, i started at Belle Vue in 68 so have seen good and bad times(29 years with no title), the GP certainly had an influence in matches leading up to the friday and saturday, what has also caused a fall in attendences nationwide is clubs streaming along with BSN, much cheaper for people to get their speedway fix, myself i prefer live meetings and did every home and away meeting when every league meeting had something depending on it, with the regular season being just a qualifier thanks to the play offs it just doesnt have the same appeal for me, still do home meetings and some away but prefer to visit Championship tracks for some variety. Just think we had 2 leagues of 18 teams now we have 15 teams nationwide. How can the so called Premiership survive? Personally i wouldnt mind BV going Championship but many probably wouldnt support it as Aces have only ever been in the higher leagues duing their history. Lets see what next season brings.

So did we when it actually mattered in last years final, regular league matches are now meaningless as the play off contenders were known before a wheel was turned. Reason why meetings are woefully attended, give the qualifiers a miss and come out when the meaningful meetings happen in the play offs.