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Well done to Crumpy should be another world champion crowned wearing the Aces jacket. As for him not riding for the Aces in 2007 well hes stated he would like to end his career at KL, we need to give him the support he deserves at team level. I think all those that call him on here would welcome him at their club next season with open arms, as for his attitude its called being a winner.

Says it all that middlos supporters on here also seem to be personal friends of his, at the end of the day your judged on results and after 6 years of failure its not unreasonable to want a change of ideas.

Who knows if Stead would have done any better? There seems plenty of psychics on here confident he wouldnt have done, could he have done any worse? Louis is at the back end of his career albeit riding well for Ipswich at the moment, but talking of the future the likes of Stead need the experiance of these meetings to be able to gain the experiance to progress and to compete on this type of stage, if stead had performed like louis at least he would be gaining experiance for the future, lets be honest CL future isnt going to be riding for his country, more experianced riders than stead didnt exactly score well at Reading and the chance to gain experiance of these events has been wasted.

Well theres signs that we have some good riders starting to come through, Bridger, Auty, etc, what they need is nurturing without any added pressures and we might just be able to build a side worthy of challenging for these championships within a few years.

No other country embraces failure as we do here, if we actually have a world beater in any sport its only a matter of time before they are getting knocked off their pedestal via the press, but if your a failure your loved, other countries have a winning mentality, the bottom line is your judged on results, looking at the line up at reading i dont think rider for rider we were totally inferior at all, we had riders that could compete at that level against that opposition as they do every week in the league, it then comes down to the managers shrewdness with tactical moves and the ability to motivate, when greece won the european championship they were no way the best squad of players most wouldnt get a regular premiership start, the managers astuteness then came into play and his tacticts proved the deciding factor.

The mark of a great manager in any sport is being able to coax a great performance out of a mediocre player/rider, instilling a confidence and belief that they can go out and put in that big performance, i dont think NM is that type of manager, to be fair theres not many managers around most sports that have this ability.

The play offs, The T/R rule, The bonus point system now meaning you dont even have to win away on the way to becoming champions, and now the pairs ruling, and people wonder why the terraces are threadbare around the country, we could have premier league champions that actually finished eighth in the final table monty python couldnt have made it all up.

Poole won so poole go through? Different than what you were saying when aces finished top of the league and should have been champs, then the silly rules were welcome as it deprived the hated BV this time it worked in our favour, you knew the rules beforehand as you kept telling us

This is what we thought with the play off rule but as everybody kept telling us thats the rule in place before the event so except it, same here well done the pairs champs

Stead was out of his depth but its a bit previous to state he will never be able to compete at this level, adams and pedersen didnt exactly set the place on fire did they and they are certainly not out of their depth. So barring injury the championship is done and dusted with 6 rounds to go, ive never been a fan of this series as it cant recreate the drama and tension of the one off final. We all remember 81 at wembley as being a great final, if it had been round 4 of 10 there would have been no tension or excitement as there would have been another 6 rounds for the riders to sort themselves out, the wembley round would have been just another event along the way, so with last years domination and now this year going the same way the excitement/tension level of who will be crowned world champion just dosent exsist. The GP series dosent even bring in extra revenue through the turnstiles at club level as after the 40,000 at cardiff its back to 1000-1,500 at elite league level. Sorry im not a fan of this event but a weekend out in cardiff is always welcome as its a great place with some good pubs.

Cant agree at all starman, peter collins in his prime was way above mark loram the things he could do on a bike were phenomenal, only for the severe injury that he so nearly won his second world title while carrying he would have had a few more world titles, pc did it on an individual front, won the world pairs, the world team cup were he scored consecutive maximums, and compare the averages of both riders in their prime, you must have seen peter at the end of his career.

when is this meeting replayed? Who cares???

Be interesting to see how many people are willing to travel hundreds of miles for the restaging, once bitten twice shy perhaps? Feel a bit sorry for the promotion here couldnt blame them if they didnt want this meeting now.

Its a long way from the days when sawdust was put down the riders donned overalls rolled their sleeves up and got stuck in real dirt track riders. Wonder what would happen at the GP if its wet and the organisers insist the show goes on? Mr S post reflects the anger that will be felt by many i think, some of these riders seem to be biting the hand that feeds them namely the fans, after 38 years following speedway i feel i dont know it at all over the last few seasons with silly rules and now events like today at poole, sometimes these promoters must wonder why they bother.

Anyone trying to convince me that Rickardsson is the best rider of all-time is going to have an even bigger task now. Away from the GP series, he's looked extremely ordinary when I've seen him in 2005 (getting passed by Tom P Madsen in a league match at Arena, and tonight he was frankly dreadful). He seems completely incapable of dominating an entire season in the same manner as the likes of Mauger, Nielsen, etc. Best of his era certainly, but best of all-time... not even close. Agreed

I understand what you mean, by boring i mean a lack of the expectation and unpredictability that surrounded the one off final, that was a unique atmosphere no second chances all or nothing on the night, as for your last comment there are boring speedway meetings as there are boring football matches etc,

Seems ironic really that sky tv instigate silly rulings like the T/R rule to keep league matches close for screening while their flagship the GP has become a borefest with the result barring injury sorted with 5 rounds left.

Be interesting to compare crowd figures for the remaining GP,s as TR is so far ahead barring injury the rest of the series is rapidly becoming pointless, its ironic sky dabble with league racing (the hated T/R rule) to try to guarentee close meetings and their flagship has become one long bore you still cant beat the atmosphere and unpredictability of the one off final, the meetings along the way to the one off were also something else, the european final, nordic, british final when it meant something, sorry for me the GP is a bore fest.

TR is going great this season good luck to him, but if this GP system had been in place when Mauger was at the top of the tree his title successes would have been in double figures, for consistancy Mauger was awesome, dont forget he had to go through lots of difficult one off qualifying rounds in some cases only the top four progresseing to the next round, then come world final night you couldnt afford one slip not the luxury of being world champ without winning a round which is possible now and has been done, remember Mauger having an 11 point plus average for five consecutive years i think it was, cant see that happening again, and look who he was riding against to achieve it, as for never passing anyone i remember at belle vue one time he forgot to turn on his fuel and was passed on the back straight by the three other riders, he turned on the fuel gave chase and won the race, not often from the back i grant you that but he wasnt often at the back to start with, theres his record of league wins with teams he rode for, his long track and WTC succsesses espeacally when riding for GB, TR is a great rider but better than Mauger i dont think so.

I much prefer Cardiff to London if it was moved back to London i wouldnt consider going and i dont think a lot would either, keep it at Cardiff

Other countries state nobody celebrates failure like the brits if we get any sporting heroes the press etc are soon out knocking them, no wonder andersen is being forgiven by so many who seem to revel in being good losers, no shutting off in gothenberg then ???

Pedersen has been involved in various incidents and in this game someone is always going to pay back if he likes dishing it out he no doubt accepts that he has to take it as well

The riding was a lot harder years ago but fair in most cases, today by comparison they would be getting kicked out, difference being they could dish it out and take it like football which is now becoming a non contact sport, the tackles from games in the seventies from the harris,s, stiles, bremners, etc would get them banned today but there was a lot less injuries than today, hard riding from years ago albeit fair would today be condemed as dirty and the likes of pedersen etc wouldnt hold a candle to some of those guys.

It dosnt take much to get people upset does it? no wonder theres no characters in the sport now, and how we bemoan that fact, dont know what some of todays fans would have made of some of the characters of yesteryear.

This is an oppertunity for the authorities to show that this type of thing wont be tolerated and remove the hint that there are certain practices that can be percieved as the sport being bent, surely at the least it brings the sport into disrepute, cant understand why british sponsers would want to put money into a foreign racer that cheats their country when theres plenty of british riders to support, wouldnt want my company associated with this.