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If EL speedway were an animal it would be put out of its misery

Glad i didnt bother now, money saved and i can look forward to the football tomorrow, whenever the weather appears iffy i dont bother now, it has proven to be the right decsision every time so far this season.

Sad News RIP

Well you cant really call this years league ELITE can you? In that sense its already finished.

Agreed

I just had the feeling with Tai that after winning the world title he felt compelled to ride in the EL to promote the sport as world champion, if he hadnt won the title i had the feeling he would have followed Holder and given the UK a miss, probably understandable when you look at the schedules of todays top riders. With Woffinden only scoring 4 points we really should have taken all the points but again Worrall and Cook were disappointing.

True there is no rule that is in place at the moment but given all the responses on this thread could an introduction of said rule come in to play in future seasons so to eliminate a problem that many people appear to have an issue with? We have seen far more ridiculous rules introduced over the years.

I didnt see the meeting so cant comment on the rights and wrongs of the exclusion. Going with the football comparison we have seen instances where players have missed finals after a yellow card in the semis, Roy Keane missing the champions league final after recieving a yellow Against Juventus for example. But in that case the squad is utilised and a replacement player is brought into the team, albeit a lesser player. That isnt available in speedway and in the case of the pairs the final was over before tapes up. So given the referee cant overlook an exclusion just to give the fans a race would it not be possible for example to have put Morris off 15 meters? Or perhaps have a reserve rider who can be used in the case of exclusions to at least put four riders in a race and avert instances like Friday? Just a thought.

Again a great event and a great atmosphere what was lacking though was good racing, for a showcase event the main ingredient failed to deliver, far too processional. Earlier in the week on talksport one of the presenters was commenting on the speedway gp and stated whats the point, whoever is in front going into the first bend will win, last night did nothing to disprove his arguement. I also thought the fan zone wasnt as good as in previous seasons, far too cramped up in the wood street. Gutted Tai didnt finish the night on top of the podium but the important thing is he finished the night leading by three points, hes looking good and hopefully he can nail back to back titles.

Because the brummies are not in a facility like buxton and are riding at el level instead of nl, so the comparison is irrelevant, a more true comparison is with clubs with similar overheads and similar outgoings at the el level, if Birmingham were nl then yes they could sustain it. As Birmingham has lost the sport for many years it says something that there is not enough public support for the sport to thrive, as for Belle Vue showing no ambition well apart from an unbroken continuous run of speedway going back to 1928 there is the new stadium to look forward to and a better future, if that means weve had to sacrifice the past half dozen seasons to cut our cloth accordingly then so be it, its a better road to take than to throw money at it for a quick fix of success that ends in the club possibly being lost forever. And despite our wooden spoons we are still here and that is a club that has had a long history of success over its long lifespan.

So perhaps Birmingham would be better off in the NL at a level they could afford, the Brummies aren't the only club with said overheads, we too race in a GRA stadium but have not got into this much of a financial mess, Theres been a lot in the speedway press from the Brummies promotion lamenting the lack of people coming through the turnstiles, that would indicate the city does not have the support in sufficient numbers, BV or Wolves would be a better comparison than buxton as those clubs pay rent and overheads in rented stadia and race at EL level

sad to see any club fold but if after a gap of many years without speedway the city of Birmingham cant support a speedway team talk about a stadium at a different site is pointless really as without support the business would not be viable wherever it may be raced. I hope the brummies can be saved its hard to imagine our second city cant sustain the sport of speedway. tonights meeting does seem somewhat pointless but im going along as due to breaks in the league programme it feels more like the close season with the lack of action. that can also have an adverse effect as people find other things to do and get out of the habit of going. anyway good luck to Birmingham on their bid to survive.

That's a good summing up of the season so far, as regards to cook riding abroad he stated at the start of the season the cost of doing so was prohibitive for him. Remaining in the PL is detrimental to his career.

Oh for when shed loads of sawdust was put down on went the overalls and the meeting was raced to its conclusion Seriously though more and more people will keep their money in their pockets when theres the chance of rain, I myself travelled to all away meetings for years but now considering the costs involved fuel, entrance, food, drink etc don't take the risk, its a difficult one as we want to see racing not riders struggling to control a bike, and then theres the rider safety aspect, but decsisions do appear somewhat inconsistent these days BV v Poole last season for example. Then the powers that be wonder why the support is draining away.

RIP Super Simmo, a great rider outspoken and made a lot of sense, sad to hear the news.

I always remember learning about Tommys sad accident, the Aces were down at Newport and i had got up early to travel and my dad told me there had been a serious accident concerning Tommy, what a shock that was, he was a superb rider, exciting to watch and for me he would probably have gone on to be a world champion, a great rider and a sad passing RIP Tommy Jansson.

Tippling down now and black skies, ah well off to the gym instead.

Now brightening up and drying out, sun coming out, forecast is for it to improve from now with the chance of a few showers.

Im six miles from the track, had some more heavy rain this morning but at the moment is dry but overcast.

forecast is for it to be dry and bright but theres been lots and lots of rain over the last two days and with city winning the league and having a parade on monday that could have a big effect on the gate, an early call off???

Belle Vue in football terms didnt turn up, the Lions wanted it more, were the better team and deserved to win, there can be no excuses only we were second best. You can only say well done to leicester.

Cookies rolling was made up for by Matej giving the pirates a head start and showing how to pass, and to think he used to hate the track, to master it as he has done shows his class.

Zagar certainly shows how to Obviously you have no problems with all your clubs past dodgy dealings then? Seems good speedway goes out the window if your winning?

Cant see any problem with any side having the priority over their own assets at reserve, hopefully when we get the move we will then be able to bring on some good promising local young riders that we ourselves can use, similar to all the talent that came through at Hyde Road, because we are not in that position at the moment dosent mean those that are shouldn't use the assets they've brought on.

Best wishes to Ivan and his family, a few years ago when he attended the BV meeting at Gorton Monastary it appeared he was starting to suffer with this condition. The man is a legend, his professionalism and consistency was absolute top drawer. Today sports people make a big thing of the importance of psycology in attaining their goals, Ivan recognised this many many years ago and had many opponents beaten in the pits before a wheel was turned. Very shrewd and a fantastic influence to all those around him as his record with his various teams show. The early seventies BV team was a powerhouse unit and that was in no small part to Ivan Maugers influence, it was a privilege to have seen him in his prime.