DaveWayne

Any evidence to support this, or just a typical internet rant that could be completely made up and has gained traction from others who don't like him ? Maybe he was rude, but then again, maybe he was approached a few minutes after returning to the pits after just being done 5-1 in heat 15 ? These riders are putting themselves on the line every time they race, and I would imagine are pretty fired up inside after a bad race. Sometimes fans need to think whether it is a good time to approach a rider or not. Holder is not renowned for being over friendly, so common sense suggests that may have been a bad moment.

Interestingly, if you look at the live updates threads from bank holiday monday, the updaters that day had more races down as 'from the gate' at Belle Vue than at Sheffield. 😉

I don't think Harris was signed up for the playoffs in order to have a huge impact last night. It was always going to be difficult to find a guest who would 'do a job' everywhere, but Harris does ride well at Sheffield, Leicester, and Ipswich if it had been needed. With regards to putting Chris Holder at 5, this was tried a few times this season but it had an adverse impact as it broke up the Holder/Pickering partnership that works so well at 3 and 4.

Some were dodgy, some of the ones mentioned here were 50/50 and could have gone either way depending which side you leaned towards. Not surprising though. Her decisions cost Sheffield the play off final in 2022.

Interesting. Is he speaking on behalf of himself, his employers on the night, or the team he has guested for numerous times this season ?

Funnily enough, I don't remember any of your fans calling her a muppet when she was making dodgy decisions in your favour in both legs of the 2022 final. 😉

Issues that you were not aware of, but quite happy to jump in and tell me to 'give my head a wobble' !!

Whose fault was it then ? The official statement said all 4 teams agreed to it.

I'm not going to get into an argument about it, but maybe you need to look into the underhanded ways in which it was all done, and the way the existing tenants were treated. I'll happily eat humble pie if it happens, but I really can't see it. And for the record, the stock car track was far from underused and was a profit making business.

And to support this you post a link to an official statement refuting it. 🤔

Loyal British riders ? In that case you don't need to fit Bewley into your team. 😂

They have kicked stock car racing out to do this. Can you seriously see them letting oval motorsport of any kind back in there on a regular basis ? Especially when it is only just outside the clean air zone.

The only things I saw stated that these dated were reserved for playoffs, no mention of which were which. Yet more conspiracy theories about the playoffs being 'fixed' with no evidence to back it up. Personally, I'm just looking forward to enjoying the racing. Enough stress in life without getting too wound up about this. It's only a gameshow. 😉

Any evidence to confirm this ? It was 1st v 4th first last year.

Not disagreeing but where has this information come from, as I had never seen anything stated that said that ?

Don't forget the 8 they have to make up would only be 4 had it not been for Masters bike failure. Are you suggesting a team that was good enough to only 'lose by 4' away from home will struggle to win by more than 8 at a track renowned for it's home advantage ? They haven't lost at home since the beginning of May. I expect it to be close, but I think Leicester will just about be strong enough to progress

Surely the fixtures were 1v4 this week and 2v3 next week, so the only variance would have been Leicester and Sheffield racing the opposite weeks ? Ipswich and Belle Vue would still have been riding on the same dates as they are now.

On recent results I think we will be fine without the headstart. 😉

Agreed, but the downside is that when tracks close that emotional attachment makes it difficult for fans to change allegiance, so they are either lost to league speedway or become far more occasional visitors.

You got upset earlier in the thread when I called you childish, and then you throw out a stupid reply like that. I'm done. I won't be replying to you any more, just laughing at you. 😉

I get it, I just don't care. The 4 teams in the playoffs haven't been fixed, and to win everybody has to beat 2 of the other 3, so what does it matter who rides against who in the semis ? I go to speedway to be entertained, I really don't see the point in getting stressed about the politics, I have enough of that at work. This is supposed to be fun !!

Convenient side stepping of the question about if your team had been in 5th on 31/8 with 2 matches remaining and a chance of 4th ?

Why was it pointless ? It's what got your team the top 4 place. Why does it matter so much who you face in the semis ? You still have to beat 2 of the 3 other teams in the top 4 to win the trophy. Would you have been happy if the top 4 had been called at that date and Leicester were 5th, but the 2 matches against Kings Lynn would have got you in the top 4 ? You just come across as a child stamping his feet when his parents won't give him what he wants.

Maybe it's just me, but I really don't get what all the fuss is about. At the point the decision was made, in order to win the title Leicester would have had to defeat either Ipswich or Belle Vue in the semis, then either Sheffield or the other of Ipswich and Belle Vue in the final. Now they have to beat Ipswich in the semis, then Sheffield or Belle Vue in the final. What is so different ? The reasons for the decision have been explained and all the teams agreed, so why is it a farce, a fix, or anything else ? Oh, please keep missing a letter out and referring to it as the pay offs, because that is so hilarious !!

Unless he doesn't fit next season due to averages, I think you have zero chance of prising Picko out of Sheffield !!