MillenTheVillen

Won't be happening in 2025 that's why there's a NDL Trophy Competition the original six NDL Clubs couldn't/wouldn't do more meetings.

Something has.

The added cost won't stop those wanting to progress, everyone knew these rules were coming and had plenty time to adjust to them, as for how much Clubs are allowed to pay - that was brought in to stop those staying in NDL and topping their wages with big pay days, it also blocked riders coming into NDL. There won't be a team not filled up at the start of the season regardless of silencers/limiters/wages and that's fact!

Can ride 500s from 14 in British Youth Championship and Youth 500 class for Amateurs but need to be 15 to ride in NDL and to ride against adults in 2nd halfs and practice, usually a list of eligible riders for the year are on SCB Website but probably too early to publish it.

By your reckoning then the rider who needs 7 riders to progress shouldn't get them and the rider who is progressing should just keep getting more? Until everyone gets away from the win at all costs mentality and starts to make it about Development (that doesn't mean everyone is entitled to take part) it'll continue to be the same old same old below the PL and CL level. 5 rides each has to be way forward for 6 man Teams or 4 rides for 7 (by all means allow reserves to switch and nominate the last 4 heats) to develop all the riders not just those who can score the most points on a night!

Of course it matters how it's structured. No rider is going to double his outlay to ride for 2 teams to get 3 rides in each meeting! 6 man Teams 5 rides each is as simple a solution to rider development you can get or you end up with double the scenario we have now of 1 rider getting 14 rides in 2 meetings and another getting 6 for the same outlay

Stand alone NDL Clubs can't have assets but CL Teams who run NDL can have them once they are 16 years old.

Nice to see the NJL updating theirs also https://scbgb.co.uk/njldocuments If you bother to look or is it a case of it's not on the forum so not available.

Sadly you probably won't see dramatic changes in the Championship for various reasons, ideally be no cup competitions and a League of 2 home 2 away then play offs of top 4 however the claim will be not enough riders for so many fixtures. With Eastbourne applying to join National League and heavy rumours of a Northern Clubs addition also (won't be Berwick or Workington and Edinburgh and Redcar already have NDL) that would leave Glasgow possibly adding fixtures to to their empty calendar by joining the NDL. Would it be supported though?

Don't be nieve, Clubs bring in 15/16 year olds with promises of becoming assets (when they reach 16) and dazzle them with the big bright lights of becoming a professional which in turn the Club gets the value off their Bond Each Season, they then can command Loan fees for their assets all through their career so its in their interests to try bring riders on. They spent thousands to have Bickley there and that didn't turn out well for them did it as he's not worth anything to them now he s packed in. As for Cairns, they didn't want him as he wasn't becoming an asset of theirs, he wanted to go there and his connections made it happen.

No, what's harsh is them paying more than the £10 and £15 per point and 20p a mile that was agreed for the Development League in order to get the riders they wanted so they could win. Add to that Belle Vue smashing Teams whilst giving William Cairns 7 rides whilst Operating R/R and not using the number 8 they have with them despite them running away with meetings at the time. Seems both Teams missed the memo of the NDL Idea whilst the others played it correctly. I'll say it again 6 man Teams 5 rides each (unless injuries during meeting) and no R/R allowed. If a 3 pointer is used to cover missing riders the order is shuffled based on averages.

With the rumours of a Northern Club being mentioned that rules a few out and really only singles out Glasgow as being that Club people are on about. Berwick - Stated in past they won't have Bullets back to allow them to concentrate on the Bandits Workington - stated NDL wasn't really supported and fans wanted Championship Racing Both Edinburgh and Redcar already run NDL Question is do they splash the pounds for a winning Team of established Riders like Leicester/Belle Vue do or produce a young team of their own through development for future Championship places in the Tigers?

When you consider which "journalist" wrote it would you expect anything less than half a story? There's no mention of the Foords making shooting gestures to the crowd etc as seen on tv. The same person copies and pastes most pieces he writes and passes off others work as his own by changing a few words.

6 man Teams (maximum CL Average Limit in place to stop those who are too good for NDL being declared in 1-6) 1&4 Heat Leaders 2&3 2nd Strings 5&6 Reserves 15 Heats - 5 Programmed Rides Each No R/R (when a lower average rider replaces missing rider the order gets adjusted accordingly) Unattached 3point Guests Only from Published Pool of Riders not in any 1-6 (1-6 to be adjusted so Guest goes in at number 5 or 6) Injuries during meeting to be covered alternatively ride by ride by reserves It's a DEVELOPMENT LEAGUE not WIN at all cost League!

Shouldn't be any R/R in a DEVELOPMENT LEAGUE, even if the rider coming in has a way lower average than the missing rider who they are covering for, the 1-7 should be switched accordingly with averages on the day!

Who would have thought a Public Forum would get so many Snowflakes Programme Boards in a tizzy! A 2 pointer not scoring 2 pointsisn't causing any team to lose, that's down to the other 6 experienced riders to score above their averages. The re jig in the averages was to allow British riders to come into the CL for the future of the sport in the UK. A few things of note if I may Ace was achieving above 2 points and was victim of the Numbers game, now it's a case of this ones better that ones not based on NL averages - perhaps some riders NL average (Harrison for example) is lower because he's used the National DEVELOPMENT League to figure out what he needs set up wise to be able to score in the CL and it isn't all about winning heats in the NDL for him. Starkey comes in and problem solved apparently, what happens when he moves into main body and struggles to score there? Imagine McGurk riding at number 7 whilst CL is there and he has the outside gates and struggles, he goes to number 6 and bingo wins heat 2(after being moved to the inside gate). Wind your necks in a bit the days of 2 pointers scoring 5,6,7 or 8s is long gone and it's up to the other 6 to allow them the time to Develope. Also note Harrison had part Season no pressure at Redcar in 2023 where he could find his feet at CL, McGurk, Perry,Hodder are in same position this Season Harrison was last year- maybe some even have 2 year Deals to allow them time! 2 Home 2 Away no cups next Season and you won't see the same teams against each other 15 times in 5 weeks with some having 16 meetings a season and others 20 plus. It's not rocket science it's Speedway and a public forum, even for the snowflakes

What a way that would be to run a Club, you didn't want to ride every Saturday for us so we won't book you as a Guest when we need one.

Kyle's was prescribed by hospital for a racing injury and could be traced back to source, no trace from Dentists could be found for Lee's allegedly. Both Worrall and Complin have to submit hair tests prior to applying for Licence - 1 was found guilty of coke metabolites/ the other hasn't had his made known to public. Take what you want from the "over the counter medicine" for the mouth but something other than over the counter meds has to have been found that requires hair samples to prove he's clear.

Lee Harrison for Oxford Jamie Etherington for Middlebrough Both are on the Unattached 3 point list and had outings this season.

Kit Bag whilst Screeny was on holiday and walked into Belle Vue few weeks later with said bag allegedly. Not sure where he would get parts for racing having bumped several spares people for Thousands of £££s

The Riders going into the National League are bypassing the MDL and NJL so no it's not a stepping stone. Both Sonny and Jody didn't need the MDL or NJL to work up to a National League Spot. Those who reach 15 and have developed are going straight to the NDL without the MDL or NJL , those who go into the Junior League 500s need to step up at every chance they get to try and dislodge the 2 you mentioned and others who have team spots. The days of being entitled to go the NDL because your old enough have gone, in my opinion the MDL should be renamed to Midland Junior League like the Northern Junior League because that's what they are now.

Ipswich seemed to have some new younger faces at their press and practice yesterday so you may need to believe it. On paper Mdsl and Njl are the level down but the reality is it's not a real stepping stone to the National League unless the rider wants it enough. Look back over last few Seasons very few riders have gone via the Youth Championship to Junior League Racing to NDL route, those who are in the 125 ranks in NJL go one of 2 ways when they're 500cc eligible (that doesnt mean they are ready to ride 500s either just they are old enough to hold a 500cc license) - the ones putting the hard yards in go straight into NDL at 15 (because they've developed enough that a promoter will give them a punt) the others continue in the NJL and MDSL believing they re hard done too and entitled to a place in the National League instead of using it as a platform to earn a team spot by developing instead of believing a Junior League average entitles them to a NDL Team spot. Two NDL clubs said they had 1 spot remaining to complete their teams, I maybe wrong but didn't a selection of riders show up to Scunthorpe over the last few weeks to try and Impress Lambert and Godfery? Didn't Gavin Parr turn up at Workington to Look over possible riders for their last spot?

Teething problems in the 1st year by sounds of it, if it's been adjusted and tweeked then surely an auto renew for your discipline (based on 1st year license in new system) could be in place to save the problems.

Wouldn't there be an auto renew option like on insurances?

Henning Loof has an ACU License according to list announced on SCB Website today...