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19 minutes ago, SteveLyric2 said:
Wow so are speedway riders not expected to entertain? Is the sport not meant to be entertaining, just 'safe'? What next? Stabilisers on bikes?!
One of the most ignorant responses I've ever read. There's a bit difference between entertaining, and existing just to entertain. You understand the difference, right?
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7 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said:
This really is a vile thread. The lad is learning and is no doubt going to be a very good rider. The OP should be ashamed of himself for starting such an awful thread.
I find your lack of concern for rider welfare vile. Do they just exist to entertain you? I find that attitude abhorrent.
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4 minutes ago, Fromafar said:
I’ve seen Jason Garrard crash in every meeting I’ve seen either live or Tv ,does that make him dangerous,of course not.Need to get over all this nonsense about Vinnie .IMO
If you can't tell the difference between Jason Garrad riding around and falling off on his own, and Vinnie Foord riding around and dangerously taking off an opposing rider(s) because he doesn't have the skill to control his speed - then I'm not sure your opinion is worth listening to. Sorry.
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3 minutes ago, arnieg said:
Can we just take it as read that any rider who was killed in action 'left us too soon'
The most complete list is here:
True, but no harm in remembering some of those that we've seen and sadly miss.
The sheer size of that list is shocking by the way.
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1 minute ago, SteveLyric2 said:
OK so if you don't accept Middlo's or Poole riders' views about what is dangerous then how about Dan Bewley's?
I've already answered that question. And a lot of people seem fixated on just the two crashes at Poole... what about all the other wrecked air fences from other meetings?
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1 minute ago, old bob at herne bay said:
"although, as I’ve said before, hopefully he’s turned a corner now."
Lets hope so - speedway is full of corners .
Yes, but it's something Vinnie struggled with.
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9 minutes ago, SteveLyric2 said:
Maybe as strange as you saying you need to be or have been a rider to see if a rider is 'dangerous'?
It's not strange, and I didn't say that anyway. However, some non-riders (most Poole fans, it seems) don't recognise the danger, and just enjoy the 'entertainment'. It's not rocket science.
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19 minutes ago, SteveLyric2 said:
Strange that Middlo and his team mates don't have issues with Vinnie. I'm sure Ben Cook would have passed on any concerns to Dan Bewley if there were any..
You think that's strange? 😆
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1 hour ago, LisaColette said:
Just waiting for @BackInTheDHSS to start on Dan Bewley for thinking Vinnie isn't dangerous like he does with other people
I bet his thoughts change once he has shared the track with him - although, as I’ve said before, hopefully he’s turned a corner now.
And remind me, your experience of sharing a race track with dangerous riders is what exactly? Getting hit by shale from the terraces doesn’t count. I’ve had personal experience of it, so apologies if 1) it bothers me a little more than you, and 2) I don’t take what you think seriously.
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8 minutes ago, Bojangles said:
Fair point, it was last year, not two years ago. Not sure why that required a 'lol' other than to be patronising. Have some humility and you might be liked more on here. It's definitely 'interesting' that you're glossing other everything else I said, though! And you definitely got the last bit right.
See @LisaColette, non-Poole fans can admit when they're wrong. If it was the other way around, you'd be trying to argue the passing of time is different on the south coast.
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8 minutes ago, LisaColette said:
Hmm, got you to stop going after Vinnie though
It was last year actually, not 2 years ago!! lol. You are really basing a lot on the word interesting. It will be interesting because he could get anything between 5 and 12. So I will be interested to see what he gets. You might not be that interested though.
I didn't stop going after him. I made my point about how dangerous he is, and there isn't anything else to say. He rode far more sensibly at Oxford, which I stated so at the time, so hopefully he's listening to some sage advice. Many others agreed he's too dangerous (and many others didn't), hence the eight pages on the thread. So far you've just buried your head in the sand about his riding style and offered nothing constructive - which I'm guessing is because you're a Poole fan.
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4 minutes ago, Bojangles said:
So - by your logic - we need to compare Lambert like-for-like on a wet track from two years ago (I'm sure nothing has changed in two years, right?), but we have to compare Lambert to Nicholls when he scored six on a dry track? You're making less sense each post! Let's not forget you started this by saying Lambert's inclusion as a guest will make it interesting!
Anyway, I guess time will tell. I'll remind you of your original post when Poole win by 20+ points. Maybe Lambert will perform a miracle.
The ability of some Poole fans to not accept when they've said something stupid baffles me. They will argue it to the ends of the earth. I know a lot of them are usually on the wind up, but I think this one was serious!
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On 10/12/2024 at 1:56 PM, Gazc said:
Wherever he ends up he should be encouraged rather than vilified a young kid who clearly has talent but a raw talent.
Starting a thread questioning if a young kid is dangerous is over the top.
Being from Paisley, you're probably more acclimatised to danger than us soft people from Oxford.
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2 minutes ago, Youhave2minutes said:
That’s human nature, I think they call it easier survival😀
Or common sense!
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On 10/12/2024 at 6:28 PM, LisaColette said:
Yes, but look who started it. Says it all really.
I have enjoyed watching him at Poole this season, entertaining and edge of your seat whenever he is out. If he ends up with you guys, he'll definitely get a good reception when he comes back down here.
What does it say, exactly?
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On 10/20/2024 at 1:36 PM, Catalan said:
Most riders try and get as much as they can regardless
Most people in any walk of life will try and get as much cash regardless.
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48 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said:
Waving a white flag means surrender, given up, defeated. That’s what r/r signifies. A team should never give up. Go down fighting.
I know, but that’s not what you said. ‘Waiving’ means to refrain from using! The ‘i’ completely changed the context of what you were trying to say. English is important.
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3 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said:
I hope they use a guest rather than r/r, which would mean an absolute trouncing. Using r/r is pretty disrespectful and waives a big white flag.
‘Waives a big white flag’ means exactly the opposite of what you were trying to say! 😛
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7 hours ago, szkocjasid said:
Surely he'd have been at 6. Unless Oxford were hoping for Jenkins, Boughen & Killeen?
Sorry, by main body of the team I meant not a rising star. Poor choice of words.
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43 minutes ago, crescent girl said:
Dillon has recently shipped all his UK equipment home to USA. Not planning a return. Not that this will prevent posters naming him in their suggested squads for the next five months....
Let’s see if his ‘not planning a return’ philosophy holds up if he gets a call and is offered a full season in the UK. I can understand him not wanting to do it if he gets a call mid-season, but it would be hard to say no if he’s in from the start.
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Let’s get Dillion Ruml back. He was superb in 2022.
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18 minutes ago, ouch said:
Brown envelopes have clearly changed hands especially in the Jenkins/Ipswich case. They’ve put their argument forward (better terms £££) and been given commercial reasons to “poach” him even though he wasn’t a rising star this year, but can be now he’s sign for Ipswich.
Completely incorrect.
1) Ipswich wasn't Jordan's first choice.
2) In the end Jordan didn't have an option NOT to be a rising star. If he was picked - as he was - he had to be in the scheme. -
Nicholls will surely be back. Peter Schroeck has already said Scott has a job for life at Oxford as long as he wants it, and I haven't heard any murmurings of a retirement on the horizon. Yes he crashed last night (and hope he's okay), but he's otherwise still thoroughly enjoying it as far as I know.
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1 minute ago, Arch Stanton said:
https://ipswichwitches.co/2025-signing-jordan-jenkins/
This kind of confirms that the “draft pick” doesn’t really work. They didn’t know if he was going to be eligible for some time so people questioning whether he’d be allowed back on the list are justified. Reading between the lines here and I could be wrong, but Jenkins is hinting here that Birmingham possibly wanted him as they had first pick, but he dug his heels in and in the end got the move he wanted.
The draft pick is a nonsense that doesn’t work. Have a rising star list if you must, but let clubs go for whom they want, and let riders ride where they want.
Having spoken to Jordan, he didn't think he would be on the rising star scheme again. Therefore his first choice was Oxford, and to be in the main body of the team. But as soon as he knew he would be on the rising star list again - and knowing Oxford wanted to protect Killeen - his focus was definitely on Ipswich. So just goes to show that Birmingham didn't really have a chance of getting him - or Flint - for that matter.
Vinnie Foord - is he too dangerous?
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