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No because the CHAMP and CHAMP Clubs can only operate in the way that they do because of the PREM. CHAMP relies on a Two Tier Structure just as much as the PREM relies on a 6+ Team Top League. 2027 Polish Rule is another reason why One Big League cannot happen, We'd already have a Rider shortage now in One Big League featuring 14 Teams as I highlighted this Morning in my 8+, 7+, 6+ GSA post.

That I agree with, When we're down to 10 Teams. Imo it's not the time to do it when we've got 14 Teams as well as a couple of potential returns in the near future when it comes to Northampton and Peterborough whether that's in 2026 or 2027. British Speedway is on a downward slope granted, But it's still got a lot of fight left in it.

One Big League is just mathematically impossible to work and I'll prove it with statistics. Including the following Riders.... Nicolai Klindt (Missed so many Meeting's due to foreign commitments) Craig Cook (Doesn't Turn Up) Villads Nagel (Same as Nicolai Klindt) Erik Riss (Said he's not Riding in the UK in 2026) Steve Worrall (Retired) Oskar Polis (Quit after a handful of Meetings in 2025) No. of Clubs (14) No. of Riders on 8+ GSA's (9)....After C. Cook and possibly Klindt (7) No. of Riders on 7.00-7.99 GSA's (12).....After Nagel and Riss (10) No. of Riders on 6.00-6.99 GSA's (11)....After Polis and S. Worrall (9) Team Building Rules and a Grading System would be irrelevant because no matter what idea they think of, The Mathematics still won't add up due to too many Teams competing in the League. Due to Rider Availability we will have no choice but to call out of depth NDL Riders up who don't even get a look in at CHAMP level in it's current format let alone PREM. Rider Availability worsens in 2027 when Poland introduce the One More League Rule. After all of thse problems, Clubs then have to convince fans to pay £20 to watch this stuff as they can't drop admission prices as they'll still be paying increased prices when it comes to rent costs and stuff because everything goes up in the world that we live in today.

Grading system doesn't protect them either. The best riders on 8+, 7+ and 6+ GSA's will still all be signed up by the PREM Clubs. Just throwing something together as an example say 1 Rider on 8+, 7+ and 6+ Per Team. KING'S LYNN We'll have Harris, Rowe and Kerr IPSWICH We'll have King, Nicholls and Jenkins LEICESTER We'll have D. Thompson, Howarth and N. Morris That's the problem here, A handful of Teams will be struggling to put a side together that's anywhere near satisfactory. Bottom line is.....Too Many Teams and Not Enough Good Riders to go around.

They'll have to use out of depth NDL Riders who don't even get a look in when it comes to the CHAMP in it's current format let alone PREM.

Wouldn't be a vote as their won't be 14 Riders on 8+ GSA's to share around anyway so some teams will have to go without. That still doesn't protect CHAMP Clubs when it comes to Riders like Jake Mulford, Jordan Jenkins, Jason Edwards and co. as they're all on nice GSA's for the PREM Clubs like Belle Vue and Ipswich.

So in the space of 24 Hours we've gone from.... Clubs don't want to move up beause of the costs all the way to CHAMP Clubs leaving PREM Clubs empty handed when it comes to bidding wars over big hitters in One Big League. Make it make sense.

I know that, Hence why I'm ignoring it. Anyone who truly believes that PREM Clubs will play second fiddle to CHAMP Clubs is very much mistaken. They'll simply get revenge on the CHAMP Clubs....Take our GP Stars away from us and we'll take your CHAMP No.1's away from you.

I was using the term Asset stripped as a figure of speech tbh. Either way CHAMP Clubs will be left chasing shadows after the PREM Clubs sign whatever Heat Leaders they want.

PREM Clubs will just asset strip CHAMP Clubs of their Heat Leaders because they've got the Money to do so and as we all know in any Sport....Money talks. Riders will jump ship in a heartbeat as they'll be left with no choice but to maximise their income due to them being hit in the pocket by missing out on a team place at PREM level. It won't be Clubs like Belle Vue and Ipswich who'll line up with Riders like Craig Cook and Troy Batchelor at No.1.

Most CHAMP Clubs need to tread very carefully here as they'll be the ones who'll end up in the mud if One Big League was to happen. Are Edinburgh willing to sacrifice rumoured No.1 Dan Thompson? Are Plymouth willing to sacrifice their No.1 Danny King? Are Redcar willing to run the risk of losing potentially 2-4 Riders of their signed up 2026 side? Are Scunthorpe willing to sacrifice their No.1 Josh Pickering? Going against PREM Clubs and a Two Tier Structure will have consequences. To quote a famous saying......Be careful what you wish for.

Spot on. Just a few other examples. Dan Thompson has to be at Leicester so Edinburgh will be in the same position as Plymouth if the rumour is true about Dan being the Monarchs No.1 in 2026. Redcar could suffer various losses if Belle Vue want Jake Mulford and Ipswich want Jordan Jenkins. If Sheffield run then they're having Picko back from Scunny so Godfrey will have to rip up his 1-7. The list is endless.

Don't forget that certain CHAMP D/UP's can only ride for certain CHAMP Clubs due to Polish Fixtures taking place FRI, SAT & SUN. That's another problem that One Big League will throw up amongst other problems that aren't even getting a mention on this thread.

Plymouth's plan goes up in smoke though if a full U-Turn in League Structure takes place. Ipswich won't have Sayfutdinov, Doyle, Brennan, Rew, Ellis or D. Thompson to choose from so it only leaves one option @ No.1.

Exactly what I mean about learning a thing or two from Chris Louis. The man does everything right.

Of course they care, Just some promoters don't make an effort to promote their business. They can learn a thing or two from how Chris Louis runs Ipswich.

British Speedway, The only sport in the UK where.... Lower League Clubs try and dictate the future of the Big League Clubs. Lower League Clubs try and take Money out of Riders Pockets by putting them out of a job at PREM level. Lower League Clubs try and takeaway from the Fans by replacing Top Quality On Track Battles like Brady Kurtz v Jason Doyle or Dan Bewley v Max Fricke and replacing them with Paul Starke v Simon Lambert or Jack Smith v Alfie Bowtell.

Exactly my point when I've said British Speedway doesn't revolve around Poole's Wednesday Nights.

It would just be a point blank refusal to put British Speedway first imo. They wouldn't have an excuse about losing money by running on Monday's and Thursday's as they'd have a written agreement that guarantees any financial losses to be covered in full.

Even if Poole had a written agreement that guaranteed any financial losses to be covered in full they'd still kick up a fuss about Wednesday's.

Some Fans are advocates for PREM clubs to be asset stripped and forced into mediocrity in 1 big League. I'm an advocate for a Two Tier Structure that see's Glasgow and Poole being told.....No more. Either way none of us can criticise each other's opinions / views without being a hypocrite as we're all calling for a Club or Clubs to be forced into something they don't want to do.

I think the PREM being branded a failure is a myth tbh. Imo the only reason why it's struggled for the last few years is because of the ridiculous 1-2 Year solutions that the AGM has thrown up because they refuse to do what's right in order to get a stable PREM. We've seen various solutions like some of the following just for example.... 1. Birmingham in the PREM when they couldn't even keep their trousers up in the CHAMP. 2. Oxford being allowed to try and commit finanical suicide by running in all 3 Tiers of British Speedway. 3. Rumoured 2026 solution of having a consortium purchase Northampton and run PREM Speedway at Oxford which is the equivalent of a consortium buying Manchester United off the Glazers and then playing every home game at Nottingham Forest's City Ground. Nobody can be blamed for club closures due to circumstances outside of Speedway like Peterborough, Wolverhampton etc.

You're trolling right? You can't honestly be serious.

The higher ups have to think about certain CHAMP Clubs if they propose One Big League and the impact it'll have on them. How will they cope with the extra financial costs once Rider demands double as the Riders will have Bills and Mortgage's to pay whilst having youg families to feed amongst other expenditures. Other factors like Stadium rent costs have to be considerd as they won't drop in value because in today's world, Everything just goes up in price. Lowering admission fee's has been suggested but how can they possibly do that when they've got to cover the extra financial outlay? So many factors to think about here that aren't currently being discussed.

I'm not infurated mate, I just think it's time for change. Multiple BSF members are calling for PREM Clubs to be forced down into 1 Big League and that's fine because it's their opinion and I respect it even though I disagree. I'm just countering that opinion with an opinion of my own that results in the boot being on the other foot in forcing top end CHAMP Clubs to move up. At the end of the day both arguments lead to Clubs being forced into a situation that they don't want to be in.