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No matter which way the appeal result goes the upper hand is still with Brandon Estates, they own Brandon so it's down to them what they do with the site, I just hope that SCS have not done what CRASH did at Dudley Wood which was put there eggs all in one basket, then when the appeal was lost the there was no other site that was suitable to relocate to and by then the interest in Cradley had cooled, what I,m trying to say is that IMO the best time to find a new site is the time when the existing stadium has been lost, just as an example I note at the Coventry end of Brandon several Rugby pitches and Clubhouse used by Broadstreet RFC, when Brandon was given notice to close I would have been knocking there door down to try to get a Track around one of those pitches, and got the owners of Brandon to foot the bill. Anyways good luck with the decision I just Hope BE are willing to come to some arrangement with SCS should they lose, but with prime building sites fetching upwards of £1 million pounds an acre I have my doubts.

Yeah, the points limit is 40 plus the RS. The Premiership points limit has been raised to 40 (for six riders), with teams to be completed by a Rising Star, and the league will continue to stage the KO Cup competition plus an unchanged play-off format.

His last average in 2017 was 9.32.

I think that team comes in at around 29.92 leaving 10+ for the No1, Piotr Pawlicki had an average in 2014 of 7.32 riding for Wolves, if he has the same average for 2024 then Brum will be 2.75 under which will be a waste of points.

You need to include a RS in that Team Give us a B, and on the Ipswich thread they seem to think Barker is heading to the Brummies.

Bugger me Phil! How much would the airfares be ?.

Yes but does that not apply to 95% of riders that miss the gate at Perry Barr ? I can think of 2 riders ie Harris and Picko and that's when the track is right other than that it is the odd rider who might make a pass now and then, so Rory is no different to 95% of riders.

1. Fricke 8.98 2. Brennan 6.02 3. Harris 6.53 4. Worrall 6.60 5. Lawson 6.57 6. Schlein 5.89 7. Flint I don't know how the averages would fit with the British reduction, for sure it's a workmanlike team but good enough for play off's ?, and the whispers are Bomber is Oxford bound.

Young Tom is a very good signing for the Brummies, be even better if he is still a rising star, well done NT.

No doubt Poole Motorsports will soon be looking for land within 45 minutes of Poole, or does Osborne intend to run Poole Speedway unviably prior to putting in a development proposal, I still cant get my head round why they have stopped Greyhound racing at Poole, after all 30k+ for every Greyhound meeting that's streamed to the shop's is not to be sneezed at.

Who actually is Oxford's owner ?, genuine question.

I would suggest the Team Manager needs to be the first signing, I can't see any point in signing 7 riders then get a manager who may or may not fancy certain riders, I'v said before Rosco would be the man to get Brum moving in an upwards direction, he is a 4 time winner of British Speedway's top league as a manager, and were I Nigel Tolley I would be getting myself down to Rosco's pub and would'nt leave until I had got my man.

I have to agree with you about the track and racing except for the very occasional meeting it's pretty much gate and go, I think the shape seems ok but whilst I am no expert there seems not enough banking to help with overtaking, I recall one meeting late season where even Picko found it Near on impossible to come from the back, riders were just going to the middle of the bend and making a v straight out to the fence rather than riding around the bend but it was still follow the leader. Yeah the journey to Monmore is far easier than getting to Perry Barr on an average Monday evening, Laurence/Nigel really need to plan in most of the Bank holiday Mondays to avoid the usual rush hour snarl up. This venture really is Sh*t or bust for the Brummies I hope for there sake that they can get the Team building right, whilst Becker, Worrall, Schlein are steady riders they don't really get supporters excited enough to want to face up to the M5/M6 bottlenecks week in week out, a big hitting No1 is needed to get the neutrals over to the Barr on a regular basis, there are still enough Coventry and Cradley fans to help swell the numbers besides the Wolves fans looking for a Speedway fix, but Brummie supporters need to get behind NT in this brave venture which due to circumstances beyond there control has given them no other choice, good luck I have a feeling your going to need it.

Keep Laurence away from the Team building would be a decent start. , and Drew Kemp as the rising star would be another.

From the picture I saw it was 100% Drillerman..

New Pictures of the work at Abbey Stadium show the new stand being built and the pit arches So we have the Pit arches but no Speedway to use the pits Oh I forgot Speedway is unviable, yet Swindon's closest neighbours are rumoured to be entering 2 senior teams in 2024, someone somewhere is telling porkies and it's not difficult to guess who .

The Stadium,s that they have owned /leased over the years were/are Bristol, Reading, Milton Keynes, Swindon, Poole, no alternative sites were found for any of those that were closed, I do believe that they had something to do with Hereford Utd FC at one time but not now, as for Torquay Utd FC I would be worried very worried as to where they are headed whilst Osborn is in control, or put another way no Team or Club has flourished under the guidance of Osborn or his companies.

Mines on strike to.

Boothby decided on a name change it runs under the name Suffolk Downs, sounds much grander but some say the name should be Suffolk Clowns but we won't go there. .

Boothby ownes or leases several Tracks; his own Henlow, and leases on Mildenhall, Oxford, Towcester they are streamed by the other player in the Streaming business SIS https://www.sis.tv/ they used to be the main players in the Bookies streaming service but Premier Greyhound wanted a bigger slice of the pie so set up there own service, basically SIS stream from the Tracks that Premier Greyhounds don't cover..

Streamed greyhound meetings are paid in excess of 30k per meeting, Perry Barr/Dunstall Park are due to hold 4 per week in 2024, incidentally that leaves 3 free days at PB; Monday, Friday and Sunday, yes I know they may want to hold greyhound trials but that could easily be done on an greyhound raceday in fact it's logistically better because all the staff are there, Trainers are there etc etc.

Entain are https://www.entaingroup.com/ a Gambling provider including Ladbrokes and Corals, ARC are https://www.arenaracingcompany.co.uk/ who provide the means for people to Gamble, Monmore is owned by Entain and Dunstall Park/Perry Barr are run by ARC, they have joined forces to form a company under the banner of Premier Greyhound Racing https://www.premiergreyhoundracing.co.uk/#top It is this combination that has decided no more Speedway at there Greyhound Tracks on welfare grounds. The Greyhound Tracks do not rely on people attending Greyhound meetings in fact they actually cost money to maintain spectator facilities year in year out, the Greyhound Tracks make most of there money by streaming live greyhound meetings worldwide and are paid upwards of 30k per meeting to provide live pictures to gambling outlets, hence no need to have spectators at meetings. I have no idea if Entain wish to continue to be both a provider of racing and a receiver of bets at those meetings unless Entain want to improve there short term profits by selling such as Monmore, Hove, Romford and Crayford, I have just had a quick check of next years racing calendar and the 4 Entain Tracks are programmed to host 22 Greyhound meetings per week in 2024 so at a conservative estimate that will bring in excess of £660,000 per week just from staging Greyhound meetings so why would they sell ?.

RIP John, whilst always likely to stir things up, John loved his Speedway along with his Stocks.

I really hope Nigel can come to some sort of agreement with his landlord for 2024, but I get the feeling whatever happens Perry Barr Greyhound Stadium has a very limited life span left, so Nigel is left between a rock and a hard place. He seems to have very few options which appear to be remain at Perry Barr short term and probably (based on the last 4 years) lose more money, move on and go all out to find an alternative site I really don't envy him whatever he decides to do, Good luck.

So let me get this right, Speedway in Swindon is unviable but Speedway in Poole is viable both Stadiums owned by Stadia UK, the present scenario is Stadia UK closed the Greyhound racing in Poole to move the televised Greyhounds to Swindon thus making Poole Speedway the only source of income at Poole except for a bit of income from Car Parking and a Car Boot, this then made Swindon more profitable but gave the Speedway less dates to race on, Speedway IS viable at Swindon but not so viable as building houses on the Car Parking area used for Swindon Speedway patrons. https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/23849178.clarke-osbourne-reveals-swindon-speedway-leave-stadium/ Osbourne is not telling the whole truth in this article, and the new company is just window dressing and everyone knows it.