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Gut feeling. Called off after 10 Heats and it's only going to start because the camera's are in town with limited re-staging dates that would work for both parties. (Teams and Eurosport) Been raining all day so surely the track is going to be gate and go with visibility issues and lots of re-runs.

Got farce written all over this one imo.

I can go on and on but I don't need too because I've got my opinion and you've got yours. You don't agree with mine and I don't agree with yours. End of the day I done this song and dance months ago fella and said the Leszno 2021 side wasn't any good and it triggered a few then so it's just a case of rinse and repeat conversation regarding the weaker 2022 side. I'm not wasting anymore time arguing about Patrick Hansen, Matej Zagar, Comparing Averages etc. all over an opinion on the 2022 Leszno side. Nobody is going to accept my opinion just like the 2021 opinion I gave and vice versa therefore like me and R&R done we've just got to agree to disagree and walk away. You seem to be a new face on this thread who wants a bit of conflict and a debate to continue in the best interests of you to kill some time out of your day.

It's really not. I love to have banter with the opposition fans but I honestly cant see us going through if MPT is out. He's been scoring like Dan Bewley for us the last two months. We need a guest who can get paid 13 to cover. Cook has to be in the right mood on the day to score well otherwise it's curtains because Riss and Jorgy won't score more than 4

I'd be more relaxed about the situation if Danny King could guest

MPT Scores for the last 2 months (August & September) H - 5+2, 14+2, 13 & 15+2 = 47+6 Need to find a rider who can get paid 13 on average to cover. A - 10, 12+1, 11+4, 7+1, 10 & 9+1 = 59+7 Need to find a rider who can get paid 11 on average to cover.

Have to disagree. Cook isn't a rider you can put faith in imo. It all depends what mood and frame of mind Cookie is in on the day. MPT has been in smoking hot form as of late.

Wolves are 7/1 to win the league. They'll take us if MPT is out. I like to joke around and have banter with fans of the opposition but I'm going to be honest here and say we simply can't cover for MPT at Home. MPT is our best rider around the EOEA and if he's out then our title challenge is over.

Uh oh. We might be in a bit of bother now. Hope Cookie is in the mood otherwise we're toast.

You really are desperate for attention aren't you? The conversation ended a couple of hours ago. Jock on.

Close but no cigar

All I've been saying is that I'm not as convinced with this Leszno side as you are. Just my opinion Kolodziej is very good around Leszno but he's not half as good on the road. He's someone who you could bank on getting 10+ at Home with confidence but away from home he's more likely to get 7 or less. (No bonus points included) I worry because they've lost a top leader in Emil and he hasn't been replaced with someone who can fill his boots. I respect your opinion and I understand that you're confident in Leszno 2022.

You're clutching at straws R & R. If you work out his home scores I bet you any money via a pay pal transfer that Kolodziej had way more first & second places than 3rd and lasts.

He couldn't have won more than 10 races on the road from the 9 scores posted above. Going by those scores he's had more 3rd places than 1st places. So where am I wrong when I say his average is so high because of the home form?

SWEDEN Przedpelski off scratch vs. Janowski @ 11/8 is worth a small bet imo considering the form of the two riders.

Kolodziej's average is mostly based on home form imo. We could go on and on about averages all day. Zagar is higher in the averages than Piotr Pawlicki Kasprzak is higher in the averages than Lidsey Think we've just got to agree to disagree don't you?

He should do imo and I think he will. Doyle & Ratajczak should go well I don't have any doubts about those two riders. It's three riders in particular who all have a question mark over them and they will decided the teams fate imo (Bellego, Kolodziej & Pawlicki)

With Zagar he was on fire in 2020 for Lublin I think he was in the top 10 of the Ekstraliga averages so is he on a downward spiral or was 2021 just a bad season for him? That's a question that will be answered on the track in 2022 imo. Hansen's pulling up trees everywhere at the moment including Individual events he's won or he's been there or thereabouts. Who's to say he cant improve and become even better in 2022. So to me their is potential for Ostrow to build team that could pull off a shock 2021 Grudziadz move. As for Leszno Bellego isn't a mug and he's a decent rider imo but he's not going to score anything like Emil does on a good day. Emil is a double figure rider on a good day so the points swing per meeting with Bellego instead of Emil could be half dozen + Pawlicki is like Zagar at the moment it's a question that will answered on the track in 2022. Polish press seem to be split on him at the moment with a couple of articles in the press about how it's a mistake by continuing in Leszno. All I'm saying is too me personally Leszno are in bottom three scrap with Grudziadz and Ostrow next year and Grudzidz have improved their side while Leszno will be weaker and we don't know what side Ostrow are going to put out.

Who would've said ZG would get relegated over Grudziadz this year with a top leader in Dudek backed up by a couple of GP Riders? Then you've got to take into account other things like a potential injury to a key rider. I don't see how my opinion is a bad take at all. Wroclaw, Gorzow, Lublin, Czestochowa & Torun are all stronger next season. Which puts Leszno in a bottom three fight with Grudziadz & Ostrow Grudziadz have a stronger side in 2022 than 2021 and Leszno's team will be weaker in 2022 compared to the 2021 side so that gap between the sides will close up. The opinions on Ostrow is oh well they won't sign anyone good and they'll go straight back down again without even knowing the team they're going to put out in 2022.

No but it's the smart thing to do otherwise it's like a football player scoring an own goal by helping out the opposition.

100% Disagree. Patrick Hansen open to staying at Ostrow now and if a deal gets done then they've got the next big name to come out of Denmark for starters. Matej Zagar is available and he's more than capable of bouncing back by riding like he did for Lublin in 2020. One bad year doesn't make you a bad rider. Other riders on the market who can help Ostrow pull off a 2021 Grudziadz. I said Leszno were a poor team this year and nobody believed me. Wouldn't have even been in the play-offs if Freddie started the season well for Czestochowa. Let's look at the Leszno team rather than base it on club / rider reputation. Koldoziej is a one track pony in Poland. His away scores are awful. Pawlicki isn't reliable and he's on a downward spiral who's even struggling to win races around Lesnzo now. Lidsey isn't reliable who throws to just as many poor performances as good ones. Bellego won't score anything like Emil. If Doyle suffers a dip in form next season then this team is in serious trouble imo.

Serious candidate for relegation next season if Grudziadz can get a deal done for a decent junior rider imo. Leszno fans must be fuming.

Another thing I forgot to add. If it was Douglas or Nicol who fell in Heat 14 and either saw the Panthers on a 5 - 1 do you think either would've gotten up to allow the race to continue knowing full well it would be a body blow to Wolves as a team?

Bates trying to buy and cheat his way to the title. Bates brought Sheffield up to ensure we had a Premiership league this seasons so British Speedway bosses have given him the all clear to cheat by booking Mountain. It's a case of you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours.

Hans done the right thing. Who cares about fair play? If it wasn't for him staying down then we would've been 43 - 41 down going into the last race and Schlein wouldn't have gambled to get the jump over Bomber off gate 4. Respect the Panthers legend for using his experience. Morris should've been excluded early in the night anyway so it levels it all out really.