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He may not, but I’m sure everyone at Glasgow will try to convince him to come back. He’s one of the most exciting riders in the league and that’s what they want in the team. If he can’t fit us in, so be it, but I’d be gutted if he turned up at another Championship team instead.

I think it’s probably time to move on from Broc and I think it would be good for Connor to ride somewhere else too. He’s great at Ashfield but needs to develop on other tracks. I’d be sad to see the back of him but I think he needs to get a bit more uncomfortable somewhere else to continue improving. I was really happy we brought Ulle back this year too, but I think that might be another sensible change. Craig and Basso would take us to about 17, plus Tom would be 24, Danyon makes it 30. So we’d need three riders to complete the set. If the points limit is lower, perhaps that looks like a bit of a top heavy lineup, but on the other side, potentially three riders on low averages with room to grow. I don’t have any immediate suggestions for those three gaps that are left. I had wondered about Lasse from the Monarchs if they aren’t racing, but he didn’t impress in the playoff QF. I still hold out hopes of seeing Marcin Nowak again. Those divebombs into turn 3 were filthy

I didn’t, as I got a rain off ticket so I’ll get in free next time. After ten heats, I’d have felt conned, but mainly because I think it was possible to get all 15 in.

Yes, I agree with a lot of this, I’ll just add one point. The Glasgow promotion are really keen to make sure racing at Ashfield is exciting. This is 100% the right attitude and it shows in the product. I understand and agree with calling off meetings ahead of time if they think the track might be OK to ride but rubbish for racing. Speedway is a sport, but it must also be entertaining and prioritising this is absolutely a good thing to do. Ashfield is an incredible track when the track staff have been able to do their job as they like to. There may be other tracks that do it just as well, but no one does it better. However, once a meeting has started, I do think the priority has to be completing the meeting is more important than the quality of racing, as long as the track isn’t unreasonable to ride on. I think that was the crux of the issue on Sunday. Obviously the meeting is in the referee’s gift, but there was too much noise on Sunday of “yeah, but the spectacle might be better another day”. It might be, but we’re here now, and people generally understand the affect of weather on racing quality in speedway. Alternatively, if the spectacle isn’t really the reason for the call off, it would probably be better not to mention it.

Yes, but I can’t easily remember the last time we had 60 put past us. Remember, Basso wasn’t riding at #1 for Poole. He’s come on fantastically but that was his first meeting at #1. Probably not the ideal time, and his ascent to the top has also been helped by Craig’s average reducing so much. If Craig and Basso were still at their old positions, I suspect Basso would’ve done better and Craig’s experience would’ve held up better. Hard to knock Basso though - he’s really excelled this season especially at home, and he made one of the most incredible passes I’ve ever seen at Ashfield only a few weeks ago. He’s an absolute delight to watch when he’s on it.

At this time of year, the track is definitely very different for our riders. Ground is colder, harder, and much more of a leveller than in the warmer months.

Just caught up on BSN. Might keep my rain off ticket for the Jubilee Cup. The second leg of this tie is utterly pointless. The writing was on the wall from heat two. When did Glasgow last lose that badly?

He rode well for half a lap in the rain too!

Cami said “all those that were available”, suggesting at least one was missing. Maybe I should get a microphone and interview Basso next time he’s running down Hawthorn Street.

Was it?

It's been mentioned Basso's flight was the limiting factor.

Well, I wouldn't know on that. I don't know what the riders were asking for and if it was unanimous. I have no inside knowledge. What they did was bring out the wonder wheel to turn the dirt over a bit. They didn't move the dirt from outside to inside.

Running on an off-night, not amazing weather for spectators, perhaps uncertainty about meeting completion, long time gap between meetings I think all factor in to turnout. BSN streaming the meeting might have been a factor too, but I think the others were bigger factors.o I wouldn't say turnout was significantly down on the usual though to be honest.

Because 1) there wasn't a fundamental problem with the track (and Justin Sedgmen himself said he didn't think Starke's crash was caused by the conditions), and 2) they can't send the tractors out as soon as the red lights go on - by the time they'd cleared up Starke and his bike, the decision to cancel the meeting came really quickly (about 2-3 minutes). I don't think you can blame the track staff. The track was holding up well and still kicking up dust in heat six.

I walked past Peter on my way out and I can't speak for him but he seemed quite disappointed to me. I know the social media guys had a good laugh at the Plymouth call-off, which really just seemed like good-natured banter, but they generally keep their counsel on these things. They don't often say much and stay in the background but they're quite switched on from the fans' side of things. They took a lot of flak for the Leicester call-off a couple of years ago and they did become more proactive about re-arranging meetings when weather looked like it could be an issue. @Cookiefan already mentioned Basso was a constraint on start time - I wonder if availability of other days (which has been discussed here earlier) might have left them in a tight spot for dates. We have definitely run meetings with the track in much more challenging conditions than it was last night - the Test match against Poland last October comes to mind. I still think it was possible to complete the meeting last night, but I understand why both sets of riders would feel the need to play games, either calling it off before heat 10, or once you got there. I do think the ref should've been stronger and pointed out the relative ease the riders other than Broc rode the track once it was damp (Starke's fall was a mistake), but the heat 10 rule doesn't really work for a knockout match. I also watched the first part of the BSN stream from last night - the cameras made it look much worse than it was in person! The wind was blowing, and it was dark, but the camera made it look a lot more miserable than it was.

Alternate Fridays for the Tigers/Monarchs, with the very occasional Sunday match, would be logistically possible. Glasgow have completed 13 home fixtures in 24 weeks. Our season didn't start until 15th April - that could come forward to the start of April (although we advertise the season as starting in March), and Jubilee League/KO Cup matches could be on Sundays, with league on Friday nights. Could even run double-headers, like Berwick do for Bandits/Bullets fixtures. I think there's still a valid question of desirability and how many Monarchs fans would travel, but from a purely fixture logistics position, I think it could be accommodated even with both clubs using Friday nights. Rain-offs might need to be re-arranged for another day of the week, though.

To be fair, I turn up to watch the riders. A meeting without Basso is less interesting, just like a meeting without King/Lawson/Worrall would be less interesting for Poole fans. Fans want to see their teams' riders in the playoffs where possible, rather than lots of guests and R/R. We have to make allowances for injuries, but I don't think anyone would be satisfied with makeshift teams.

Just hold all speedway meetings at the Principality Stadium

Yes, I agree, after some thought, the heat 10 issue does cause problems. Requiring these matches to go to heat 15 would certainly help avoid some of the politics.

Also, Connor's average at Ashfield is about 8 IIRC.

No water went down on the track from when I arrived. Starke's back wheel gave way because he went far too fast for the conditions. Watching from the 4th corner, he was always hitting the air fence. I've seen people ride the fence there enough to know when it'll end well and when it won't. He was far too optimistic.

The track would've been more of a gaters' track, but it was totally ridable. The last heat time was faster than half of the GP Challenge times.

That's not true. Won't be a complete refund, but will get a rain-off ticket.

It's not even raining. This is all because Broc didn't fancy it and Starke thought he was Basso on a baking track in mid June. I suspect mixed in with a bit of home team not wanting to give away home track advantage, but the referee should see through that. Can't blame teams from trying it on when refs are gullible.

Meeting cancelled. Unsafe. Load of nonsense, although it will probably help Glasgow.