Ringitsneck

It appears a lot of you prefer to read forums than the actual releases from the powers that be, the BSPA have a meeting on the 15 th to discuss the issues of starting the season. stand by your keyboards to moan no matter what they tell you.

A typical THJ response, I expected no less. If you can’t remember me speaking to you umpteen times that’s fine, the last argument we had was with Mr.Phillips about certain goings on regarding alleged ‘ sponsorship ‘, But I am instantly forgettable and , unlike you, quite happy to be so. You have never liked being told your wrong but , as Ive already said, your consistent so crack on lad as you do like to be the centre of attention and we all know you “don’t give a flying fig.“ Before you say it...I will crawl back in my hole ....until the next time,.....hopefully on the terraces.

THJ , you don’t like being ‘ outed ‘ but you’ve always been consistent over the years, never short of something to say even if it is somewhat ‘ exaggerated ‘. Standing near you season after season, even at Workington and Redcar has always been amusing but definitely not because of your ‘ jokes’. Still , this team forum would be one hundred pages shorter without your tittle tattle so keep it up.

Reading the Newcastle threads it looks like them and not just for this season. Let’s hope not!

Strange, as British Superbikes have just announced they are admitting pre booked crowds into their events from July.

Vision has little to do with it. Most of the clubs do not currently have the capability to do such a thing. It would need considerable investment from some and that is not going to happen in the current climate.

If Grajczonek is turning down £200 + a point in Poland , never mind what he’s on at Sheffield, then you think ‘ reality ‘ will really kick in soon ?

As Scunthorpe has had to cease ‘ Private Hire ‘ sessions due to complaints from the noise Leicester is possibly the only track running sessions.

There's little enough for it during the normal season so no chance of them wanting to attend in November!

You were doing well till the Glasgow bit... better stadium , YES, better race track? NO.

Ive seen poor meetings at Torun but , I agree, EWR has improved over the last few seasons.

Whilst the EWR track usually produces excellent racing it is not a good stadium . It is adequate but then the prices reflect the fact it's not Belle Vue and it gives value for money. Take away the Godfrey factor ( wish he'd stay off the microphone as he's so biased and insulting to visitors ), There is a lack of seating for the elderly but otherwise it gives reasonable views from all around, the food and public toilets are adequate , car parking is good and I'd rather attend the EWR than Leicester . The downside of the place is , from a riders point of view, the Armco barrier around the track which has added to certain riders injuries. There is a home advantage to be had due to the undulations around the track but then that isn't necessarily unique to the EWR. Only one changing room for all competitors with just one toilet and a couple of showers ,that can be for around 20-30 riders on a race night, never mind the 50 plus that attend amateur meetings. Despite all that it does produce good racing, certainly better than Shefield of the last few years and I would rate the racing as in the top half dozen in the country but it is not as good as Belle Vue, Somerset , Glasgow or Redcar in my opinion.

Even Brian Clough lasted longer at Leeds than Pipe.

" use their own riders" ? Now that's interesting as most of the club's haven't run second half races for years and the fact that Sheffield are having to advertise for riders shows that the league already has issues. Add the fact that the matches will be run on ' school nights ' ( Monday's-Thursday's ) then the real yougsters out there are going to have to take time off school to attend most tracks in this league. I hope it does work but I see it just being the MDL/SDL riders being cherry picked or NL riders being classed as juniors as there isn't enough NEW youngsters to fill these teams.

I quite liked the lad and thought he was doing fine at Redcar but they certainly did not shaft him. If you have a tantrum and a fall out with the management , expect concequences, but I do hope to see the lad get a chance somewhere.

You don't like Wallinger, now you don't like Phillips, you really do add value to this thread.

We get it, you don't like Wallinger, now move on.

That is against the BSPA's own rule book. Whilst we all know the rules are being bent you will not find their names listed at more than one track. The ' offenders' have put puppets in the title roles. ones that spring to mind are Chapman, not listed as promoter at either Ipswich or Peterbrough is he? but as the co/ owner ? The Bates put Machin in at Leicester, and Dickson, whilst they covered Sheffield. CVS , promoter at Wolves and a shareholder at Redcar, not a promoter. Are there others ?

The question mark intrigues me. Is that a question ? Or an answer?

Please let it by Pipe! Then we might just get a team manager at Newcastle. But could it be our George? We get all the Bears rejects so about time you got one of ours.

Yes, he's not liked and if you've spent any time with him , know his previous and listened to his ' surmons ' you can understand why. Lets hope he talks less and let's the results speak for him.

His local club wouldn't give him one, at any level. Speaks volumes.

Thank you George. No matter what standard of team we have had over the last few seasons you have kept the sport going when it would have been easier to say goodbye. We all know the sport is dying and love him or hate him, he kept us afloat. The Diamonds are now in a similar situation to that lot down the road when Havelock left the Bears and we know they have turned their fortunes around Now we have the new broom and hopefully a brighter future.

I think Mr.Pairman has hit the nail on the head. Simply a case of rules being enforced, either by the SCB or the BSPA. Whilst it appears to some to be a witch hunt , it isn't. If the people involved still want to run a team, they can! The NJL are all ' amateur ' teams run by volunteers not the club's themselves, the idea is to give youngsters a chance of rides so the name should make no difference.

"Information I have been told/ read" So your just spreading rumours then? The SCB are supposed to run the sport as they are the rule enforcers/makers, the BSPA run the clubs, hence Vatcher attending NJL AGM's as he tells them the rules they have to adhere too. Vatcher will also be the controller of the MDL/SDL. Perhaps you need to replace Godfreys name with Vatchers?