Fortythirtyeight

Clubs are the ‘ sponsor ‘ so they need an employment permit , then the rider needs a visa to work.

Currently Danes don’t need visa’s as part of the EU. and no rule changes in place...as yet!

Something doesn’t add up here. Let Smetana go and sign a much lesser average Brit but then say you've applied for the right to employ foreigners which will take a few weeks ....so why not wait for approval and keep Smetana ? Diamonds were already 2 points under the limit so now it’s 5 points under. Unless the rumour of lowered team points limit is actually true? As the rules haven't changed, as yet, Vissing doesn’t need a visa.

As Glasgow started world war 3 to get Fridays ( “ We are running Fridays or we will sue ) I can’t see them changing now. Godfrey did the same ( “ I’m running Fridays or I close “ ) Redcar probably can’t do regular Sundays because of the closeness of Newcastle and the car park is shared with the other race track ( plus shared staff, crowd etc ). Would make no sense whatsoever to let Somerset run on a Friday. But the mafia will do what suits them and sod the rest, as Workington found out to their cost.

They don’t pay points money or travel in BSPA meetings, it’s a set price for finishing positions.

And you said “ have no costs “. Every club , even Scunthorpe who have staged the most meetings, have lost money this year with some a hell of a lot more than others. Poor Newcastle’s Rob Grant must have lost a small fortune before he’s even started.

You think it costs nothing to maintain a stadium / track even without rent ? Even a house with no mortgage has bills to pay! My local clubs costs are around the 25 thousand mark wether they use it or not as they do pay rent and for 12 months not just the 6 that the ‘ season ‘ takes place.

The ‘ Promoters Circus ‘ event will be via Zoom ( if at all ) as can’t have more than six attending. You think the same clowns on the top table that got us here are now going to completely change tactics? Time for a revolution but don’t hold your breath.

They pay their money ( quite a lot considering the quality of the field ) and takes their choice. Simples!

You have your very biased opinion , I have my open opinion. I DO agree it’s on its arse, but it’s only the true fans keeping some clubs going.

When have I ever stated NL racing is better ? I was making the point that racing can be just as good at an amateur meeting as an Elite meeting, you clearly don't agree , but as some one who attends all levels ( and in different countries ) I’m not snobbish enough to think that a top name produces better RACING . Watch some youth meetings , you will see good RACING. I obviously don’t agree with your statements, as a former Comets fan who attends different tracks I regularly meet many fans from tracks not competing at the venue ( Sheffield fans at Redcar, Berwick fans at Newcastle, Glasgow fans at Edinburgh ) and they are there to see the RACING, not the names and wage packets . without “ True speedway fans “ there’d be very very few clubs left.

Clubs move leagues for business reasons. Somerset, Peterborough, Leicester all found they got the same crowd for Elite as they did for championship matches but the wages were a lot less , and often, the fans preferred the standard of championship RACING. Ive seen fantastic RACES at amateur meetings , just because someone gets paid more doesn’t mean it produces better racing.

So why do neutral fans go to other tracks ? ( Newcastle fans go to Redcar every week for example ) why go to individual meetings ? why go to GP’s? to watch RACING!.

I disagree. Ive seen some excellent NL matches and dire ‘ Elite ‘ league matches, same goes for quite a few G.P.’S even at Cardiff. I’ve also witnessed larger crowds at championship clubs than Belle Vue , Leicester ( elite days ) and P’ Bro so your statement doesn’t hold water.

Now that is the first sensible quote on this thread since it started.

Really? You were at Scunthorpe today ? I thought you were so COVID sensitive you would be in a padded cell somewhere. If it is true, and it can’t be can it ? then it’s a disgrace.

Somerset signed Jason Doyle , a World Champion, and their crowd went up exactly zero %. True speedway fans go to watch RACING not individuals. You could argue that racing should take place if a lesser rider tries to beat a ‘ star ‘ but the names don’t mean a thing, it’s the quality of the racing that counts. A winning team also helps.

Judging by some of the idiotic comments printed on here let’s hope the government calls a halt to all crowds at events Including this pretend British Final ( minus some of the top British riders? ) and then we won’t have pages and pages of denialists against conspiracy theorists and can get back to discussing speedway .

Because the BSPA don’t run Plymouth?

It’s a BSPA event, there will be no ‘ large prize fund ‘ and as there is no Cardiff event so there’s no ‘ wild card ‘ incentive .

Personally I find this decision to stage a British Final , without any previous competitive racing, a disappointment as you cannot expect the top riders to be anywhere near their best. Last years meeting was one of the best but we can’t expect a repeat under the current circumstances. Why Ipswich and not Belle Vue ? It’s been there for the last few seasons, is about to have spectators allowed in and is claimed to be ‘ The NATIONAL stadium . I have nothing against Ipswich but , yet again, find the decisions made by the top table a little strange .

Cleveland Park Stadium was underneath the A19 ‘ flyover ‘ southbound slip road to the A66 East. if you were on the A1 it’s no wonder you didn’t find it. The site is now a college and because of the sport covenant on the original site they also built a 5-a- side Football multi pitch, that’s how councils get around such clauses.

Whilst you two have your disagreements , the current regulations do allow for mixed cubic capacity teams although not in the same races. The current Northern Junior league runs separate classes in the same team and in previous years at amateur level, different classes have competed within the same team, so it is not a new idea, although one I believe should be encouraged to give clubs incentive to find new youngsters to bring into the sport.

I think Mr. Ringitsneck’s point has been lost although I don’t necessarily agree with the way he puts things across. It was stated by Godfrey these matches were to help the kids upto NDL level get some race time. This appears to have not been quite accurate as it’s now being run as a normal meeting with riders getting paid and a paying crowd. That’s fine, that’s what it is. The helping the kids is the misleading part , Carter and Lambert ( not yet announced to the public ) are certainly not kids , but let’s be happy that some kids are getting race time and some very desperate fans are getting to watch some form of racing.

Mr. Jorgensen is more than a capable role model. A gentleman around the fans and a fine rider, I detect a slight biase in a Newcastle fans comment. If research is carried out I think Pienpeesman may also find that more southern based juniors travel north to ride due to the number of events taking place at northern tracks such as Scunthorpe and Redcar and during the season you will have seen a number of ‘ southerners ‘ riding in the Northern Junior League.