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Heard they had relaid the track? Whatever they have done it needs digging back up and blading. Worst I have seen it for many a year, holes on both bends, very wavy and riders picking up all over the place Shanes found a magical line inside of 2nd bend 3-4 times but not a great advert for Speedway and just grateful both sides seemed to get away intact although reported Wood had some kind of back injury although he did not seem to fall. Spoke to Tero and Adam after meeting and both agreed it was very bumpy and didn't help their respective injuries. Home win but a shallow one

or may be a lot nearer the truth Cook ignored standard protocol as his head was not right.

The excellent and regular documentary includes plenty of filmed and interview evidence from both sides taken before during and after the meeting regarding track conditions and no doubt everyone can make their won mind up about the actual track conditions once racing started. Looks very good conditions and racing to me. https://www.eastbourne-speedway.com/eaglestv/ I assume that contains nothing that is part of Inquiry?? certainly nothing controversial in it but a good insight and they do have superb media there. Everyone i have spoken to who was there says the same thing, Glasgow tried to intimidate an inexperience referee, Vatcher was there and called to go to Pits and once he did and walked track it seems Glasgow told to get changed and stop messing about and parade started 10 minutes late, after a short bit of chain grading.

Been there 5 times this season as less than an hours drive , 4 CL Fixtures all good crowds and 1 NL Fixture with what would be double Coventry got last season. Have read the article 3 x now and doesn't strike as desperation to me, more like asking more to come to enjoy the product. Looking at crowds at other tracks I've been to in PL and CL and Cradley if Leicester are in trouble then lord help some of the rest!

is that definite where have you heard it officially?

I stand by my earlier comment. "Glasgow started it and Eastbourne finished it" The bullied were not intimidated and fought back literally! Mind games sometimes work on this occasion if would appear that they didn't and were returned with interest. This was pretty norm for speedway in the days of far bigger crowds, real men not whimps and before social media and the inevitable issues that brings. Good old fashioned proper partisan speedway like i used to see at places like brandon, Dudley Wood, Blackbird Road, Smallmead; and countless others. The point is lets enjoy it while we can PLEASE!

I normally park in One Stop and never had any issues as its safe and easy to access, find it helps leaving a speedway programme or similar on front seat in case some over officious parking attendant appears but most Wednesdays they seem to assume anyone over 4 hours is at Speedway. Highly unlikely you'll be more than 4 hours anyway.

I fancy us to beat Eagles predict 47-43. Think Edwards will do more than Morley did but don't think Kyle will match Brennan's last performance there just b4 he broke his leg. Kennett is hot and cold and I think Adam and Jason G will have measure of him and Lawson in key heats. Interesting to see if Jenkins is any improvement on any other NL reserve we've had and Stoneman did get 10 points v them last time and doubt Jenkins will get anywhere near that. They are poor away so we have to capitalise.

These "documentaries" seem to be a regular and excellent feature at Arlington. Nothing here of the "handbags" but plenty of interesting comments from before and after and some very good racing clips. https://www.eastbourne-speedway.com/eaglestv/

surely if ref says he is OUT he is out and why would Eastbourne or any other club want opposition No 1 reinstated? I would argue that if cook had gone out in Heat 1 and won it like he did Heat 5 the whole match mood would have been different and result possibly different too. His actions deeply affected his own Team and certainly as much an impact of result as anything Eastbourne did on or off the track. No word from Cook; Glasgow or any Cook backers as to why he did not go out for Heat 1?

independent neutral evidence is that RED LIGHTS were put on a good 20 seconds before Cook and Marshall had coming together at least full home straight travelled with red lights on. obviously we will all have to wait to see any video evidence about that; but been confirmed to me by a Poole fan and a Kent fan present via PMessage on Facebook.

if you can untie yourself from those knots you have tied yourself in you might have some chance of digging yourself out of the "sore loser" hole that's so deep.

Track should be ideal as we've had enough rain last few days to bed it in but not too excessive and tomorrow looks a nice sunny day. Be interesting to see what 7 we track as time I think for us fans to see some continuity. If we ride like we did in KOC Shield v Eagles when we beat them by more than score suggests we should be comfortable as Wood is a waste of time away and Edwards still finding his feet. Be good to see Kyle back a 100% trier.

On what possible grounds having watched the excellent racing clips on SGB website and Eastbourne website would anyone have for declaring the Meeting "null and void" and re-running on a "neutral track". That is the most ridiculous post I have seen for a long time. What possible action on Saturday means Eastbourne can't have a Home Leg or that kind of absolutely ridiculous comment. Seems you really are just a complete sore looser and the fact Eastbourne got 43 points at Glasgow and therefore warm favourites over 2 legs is just swept under the carpet. Every post you have made in this thread is now outed for what it is "complete sore looser".

Sharpenrake 3 points (1) have visited Arlington for many years as a brummies fan and our rivalry goes very deep over decades. I've never been treated with anything other than the kindest respect and positive welcome. Yes they are very partisan, but I don't think any of us need any lessons from Scottish fans in being partisan in speedway or any other sport. I can think of far worse and less safe places to travel as a visiting fan than Arlington (Dudley Wood, Brandon and Monmore Green made Arlington look like a Polo Club!) . Don't think a line was crossed from all accounts. (2) you fail to reflect on what those who WERE THERE are all saying, a pre-meditated attempt by Craig Cook and Michael Max (Team Manager) to stir up ill feeling about the tRack. I've seen various race clips this morning on SCB and Eastbourne website and the track looks excellent and no issues with it at all. Certainly Craig Cook seemed to race on it fine once he had picked his dummy off the floor. Shame he didn't go out in Heat 1! A greater shame his Team Manager let him ride in Heat 15! to the loss of possible earning to a team mate as meeting was over. (3) Craig Cook has a well documented history of mood swings, he can be a nice guy one week and a complete tool the next and Michael Max is well known in the Sport (not to be confused as a Karlsson brother) as a wind up merchant. I'm sure that supporters of many Clubs will be aware of his antics. Maybe wise that you accept that Craig Cook was partially in the wrong, Glasgow tried to intimidate for 60-90 minutes but came up against a Club that won't be intimidated and that the subsequent punch up did neither Club any favours at all. As for Jon Cook, he is like Michael Max a complete wind up merchant and clown. Glasgow started it, Eastbourne finished it. simple as that!

Some valid points here. Opinions clearly polarised. showing a few seconds of a clip of 3 minutes is at best stupid and worst ----well you decide. Martin Dugard who I understood was no part of Eastbourne Speedway any more but Owner of the Stadium has done no one least of all himself any favours in releasing this. The clip proves nothing either way without showing what happened before or after it. In making public it makes SCB decision far harder now that it is in the public domain I'm told by friend (Poole fan who was there) that both Glasgow and Eastbourne Speedway Directors (Facenna and Jordan) spoke after the meeting to Crowd very calmly and respectful of each other, got a round of applause from the crowd; and may be it should have been left there until the SCB made a judgement.

wasn't there but a Poole supporting friend who was has told me one interesting fact that no one seems to have picked up on. He is adamant that when Referee saw Cook and Vissing set off pushed by their mechanics, (a) Cook gestured with a wave to other Glasgow riders to follow him (b) as Cook went round 3rd turn (full home straight away from altercation point) the referee put red stop lights on. I've track marshalled at several Midlands tracks and other forms of Motor Sport and it's at that point as a Marshall that you immediately wave red flag. On that basis, as neutral but part of Marshalls fraternity, would support Marshall 100% even if he moved as like somebody said "he is last line of defence". Bloke should be praised and rewarded not attacked.

Have said before on this topic (see Matt Ford piece) all valid arguments. The guy at Eastbourne is generally on more honest and transparent end of the spectrum, he is new and possibly very naive and not ground down yet by the old guard. One point he makes is very interesting and that is Eastbourne don't yet feel "ready" as they need a year to develop on what they have done this year, which has been pretty positive and successful. They are like brummies newly back up, but he may have struck on a bit of logic there. Is answer to announce a one league structure at next AGM but to leave 3 tier in 2020 and allow proper planning and preparation for 2021. It would be very novel and may be they bring in a Painter (GB Team) or Gould (BSI) to oversee it and go and find a proper League Sponsor and TV for 2021?

interesting assessment from Eastbourne. I started a "One Big league" thread on News and Discussions back in May after an article by Matt Ford in Speedway Star. That has run and run with some very good and thoughtful ideas. This article is at least showing some Clubs are thinking ahead and not just burying head in the sand and also very realistic that they admit might be a year too soon for them. The current format seems doomed, something has to change.

Does anyone know how many changes each team has made (excluding injuries). guts tell me Brummies the most and Berwick the least?

Must be that Teams are re-declaring but not announcing until day or 2 days before. Who is next I wonder? I'd have a wager on Glasgow or Newcastle, not many left who haven't made changes in last week / 10 days.

will wait for Danny King to move to Leicester for the Play Offs and Shield Finals if Sheffield are out of Play Off contention. If I was a Sheffield fan I'd be hopping mad. Stinks!

Would love to see Tero and Garrity in the engine room of the side on a longer term basis.

Will wish Nathan the very best on his debut for Rebels as very harshly treated by Brummies and I think OTA may suit his style. Reserves will hold key as Bickley is very poor away and Bailey won't have any experience of the Track. Sargeant seems right out of form and confidence so be interesting to see how long they persevere with him surprised he is still there.

very strange very very strange Sedgeman not ridden for months Kurtz binned off by Somerset out of form. Proctor has been smashing in better scores and form in both Leagues for past few weeks. Leicester in Shield Final look sure to be in Play Offs need rider whose average Proctor best fits. "Robbing Peter to pay Paul" or "robbing one Bates to pay another Bates". IF Proctor ends up at Leicester it will bring Sport in to further disrepute and ridicule. No doubt one for the Management Committee to look in to Oh hang on....."Bates and Bates and Godfrey