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Bickley is probably a better example of how confidence can be shot if promoted too soon. Harry McGurk too. Ace needs another NDL season and occasional chances in CL if reserves missing or as No 8

Glasgow were excellent pre Covid including a film of the 2019 season. I gather the young man who did that has gone on to bigger things. Redcar have been very good for a number of seasons. Berwick similarly are very good. Eastbourne were very good prior to their closing. Edinburgh are excellent and hopefully they'll find a way to stay open or reopen in 2019.

So a Friday night track in the North it is then.

Sad news Thoughts with Phil, the girls and family.

1.6 I believe with the aim of getting to a multiple of 2. Cant think of many who have a PL average who haven't already got a valid CL average that would be feasible. Having people like Crump on acl12v point average just doesn't work.

Wouldn't be surprised to see Gilkes at Oxford or Poole. He likes to move about and if he can regain pre injury form would be a massive asset to anyone to have. Complin will be much sought after too.

Logically one of the heat leaders whose form at their age will regress as opposed to either Cook who are progressive. I could see either DK or SW at Oxford or Brummies or SW at Plymouth with his brother. Probably they'll ditch Kemp too.

I've made this oint before on another thread If you have fewer teams and points limit is lowered you have top heavy teams, 2 pointers who aren't ready and 4.5 to 6.5 riders without Teams. If it's 8 teams, wih Leicester up and Edinburgh out, better to stick to 42,share heat leaders around more fairly and then you don't have to backfill with 2 pointers

Thats fine it can be arranged. The PUL 23 will be launched at the AGM The BSPL are happy to announce that 13 Clubs have left the League for the 2023 season and that the new League Sponsors are Parallel Universe Limited. The 3 Clubs who qualify for the League will be announced on the 32nd December once final Audit work is done. The BSPL have also stipulated that ALL BANKING should be removed from Tracks for 2023 as we are now having to adhere to Flat Earth Society regulations

I would point out that EVERY CLUB entered a Competition that clearly had a designated ONE OFF Final at Sheffield at the beginning of September. That Final would have been done and dusted ages ago and Winners known. Only when ONE Club moaned and whined that a One Off Final at that Venue was not fair, was the decision made to have 3 Home Legs. That decision was made only AFTER the 3 Finalists were known. That could be argued rendered the whole Competition null and void as the other 7 participating Clubs found the goalposts removed after the Event. There is a very simple solution. Go back to Plan A, which every Club agreed as the Format. A one Off Final. I'm sure that any number of PL or non participating CL Clubs could stage it quite easily.

, oh don't wind them up.. Arthur Gruber will be getting in his tank Helga will be aroused Von Klinkefhoffen will be skidding around Herr Flick will be in checking his next Court date And The 2 idiot Airmen will be arguing over who's going to be Team Manager.. Meanwhile Danny Boy will have missed it all as its way past his bedtime and Daddy won't let such a rabble in to his Chateau in case they damage the Chandeliers. Only in (Poole) speedway.

Track record in heat 15. Thats some track preparation to have track that fast in last heat. Well done all concerned.

Exactly my point is exactly that. Almost all can ride to score rather than protect average

Guest scores don't count in GSA

Re Averages On basis Plymouth have 2 Guests, 2 short term reserve guests, RR and Morley plus Hans who rumours suggest may be retiring from UK speedway surely they've nothing to lose and some decent points money to earn.

This is where the lack of brain cells on the management committee becomes so evident. 10 teams requiring 70 riders I can see 38 or 39 points working 8 teams (no Lions or Monarchs) requires 56 riders. IF the limit is too low it'll end up with a host of 5 to 7 point riders on the shelf and a host of poor and unprepared riders on 2 points rushed in to fit the limit. Surely they will need to look at available riders from top to bottom and then reset a limit to match number required with any surplus at the bottom of the average scale not in the middle. That way you build quality and incentiise those lower down to improve. You then assess ndl the same way so that those not in CL fill NDL and reduce NDL options for those who've milked it for too long.. Clegg, Morley etc

Gilkes may have wunderlust. He surely needs to be setting roots. Wouldn't be surprised if that wasn't Oxford or Birmingham. Bowtell and Morley have definitely improved and would be logical in 5th and 6th places in the averages. Complin or Roynon would make a decent tail, I suspect Lee will be very sought after and elsewhere. Barker should be a shoe in. Depends who they might get out of Edinburgh or Leicester. Richie Worrall seems to like the place. If MPT can get fit he'd make a good 3rd heat leader with Barker. A decent 4th rider would be key signing, may be Kye Thomson? R Worrall B Barker MPT Kye Thomson A Bowtell A Roynon (Morley may not fit if 42 limit. They'd have around 3.67 to play with) L Complin Thats why Complin instead of Morley would be a great signing for them.

Couple of solid options for Lions could be Nicholls and Lawson. Nicholls did a great job there in CL. Track would suit him more than Peterborough and a nice average. Lawson always rated by Dickson and another who rides track well. His average has gone up in 22 but he may feel more secure there? Bates family ditched him just before 2021 season at Sheffield but reason for that now seems sorted. Would make a solid starting point Probable Connor Mountain would be a reserve pick too.

Have read that Oxford were interested but CAN'T at moment as Dogs would need Stadium for Racing on Monday / Thursday and obiously TOTE income is fundamental to their business plan. Besides if they can attract 1500-2000 to CL and 500-800 to NDL on a Wednesday night why would they take a gamble. Glasgow rumoured to be considering, Poole won't go back up in what may be last season their Stadium in available and hard to see anyone else in CL taking such a move? 8-8 would be ideal, 7-9 is at least nearer the aim of 8-8 surely?

Good luck to the Lions and their Promoters. It's a very professional set up and the Track has improved massively this year. I suspect a lot more focus from Dickson on the Track and fewer Training Days may be the reason as a lot of the Riders who used to flock there to train have been busy enough competitively. The Bates brothers will know all about PL costs from Sheffield and previous experience at Leicester. Their well thought out logic about rival attractions on a Saturday from SGP / Footy and Rugby make emminent sense actually, a very well supported Soccer Club and a lot of people forget the best supported Rugby Club in England on the doorstep. Thursday nights should work for them and they shouldn't have too much bother getting a competitive Team together - possibly a few big hitters too who aren't currently in PL. Some people will always knock and hate but it seems to be eminently sensible to me and good luck to them. It remains to be seen if Glasgow will bite the bullet and join them. An 8 Team PL and an 8 Team CL would seem a much better balance to me than the current 6 and 10. It may allow CL to be far fairer in terms of heat leader allocation rather than 2-3 Clubs mopping up disproportianate top end strength. Good that they will continue with the NDL too where they have some exciting 15-16 year olds starting to come through also.

2023 will be last season for Peterborough hopefully they can find something for 24.Might be last season in 2023 for Poole unless something dramatic happens with Council and stadium. Hopefully Edinburgh back in 24. Brummies will run in 23 but will need much better crowds to get to 2024. Leicester will move up, Glasgow might move up to PL in 23. Only other change is hopefully Workington in to NDL but got to be doubts about Plymouth running in NDL though I'd guess with getting riders on a Tuesday at that level.

Hopefully Jubilee Cup will be one off final at a neutral venue as originally planned. Oxford would fit the bill if Sheffield can't fit it in. Re Presentations, guess they have to get donne b4 cry baby Brennan gets his van loaded again and leaves his team mates to it. Wouldn't be surprised if they flogged him to BV.

That makes it worse as it implies both knew and let the team down. He's 17 I believe not 15. Surely if he'd reached out to BV they could have arranged / would have arranged something. Understandable if team mates, most of whom don't have a CL income and opportunity like Ablitt, are rightly very upset.

Not too long ago he was blaming College and exams. BV is the best gig in the NDL for any young rider, not the kind of bridge you burn if you're professional and sensible.

Not denying that but Nigel Tolley getting a lot of credit for very prompt payments to riders.