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SGB Championship 2023 Confirmed Signings
HGould replied to Nickinho's topic in SGB Championship League Speedway
Was a successful franchise in the early 80's playing in Aston. Suffered increasingly with financial issues and closed some years ago. May be being revived at some point but have fallen way behind the bigger franchises now. Will always be a small niche minority Sport in UK like Ice Hockey, very popular is small pockets only. Thankfully Rounders (which the Yanks call Baseball) has never taken off here. -
I'm sure we all want Speedway to recommence at Brandon but i think you make a very valid point about it going ultimatey to the Secretary Of State and invariably that will lead to houses being the winner. Logistically too there is a problem too I feel in that we already have Speedway at Leicester to the East, Birmingham and Wolves to the West, Oxford to the South. Leicester have done well crowd wise with a successful CL team, Wolves continue to attract decent Crowds but down on 5 years ago and Brummies frankly struggle and have been kept going by the Masons who lost a lot of money and now Nigel Tolley who is investing silly amounts (and credit to his enthusiasm for that) but we have to be totally honest, not sustainable amounts and we've seen other Tracks close in such circumstances when the reality bites that they are never going to make money. I think the only really viable opportunity for Speedway at a Rebuilt Brandon would be generated by either Stocks or Dogs or both. Greyhound Racing is in decline and has animal rights issues and there are viable dog tracks to the West (concidentally at PB and Monmore) . Stocks historically did very well at Brandon (Brisca F1 e.g proper Stocks) once a month , and whilst the crowds for that are in decline too, it could still be a crowd puller but a Stadium would need more than once a month occupancy. If Coventry Speedway fans also suddenly had a Team to support, what would be the knock on impact on Leicester, Brummies and Wolves. I don't think it would impact Wolves too much, I fear that even 50 less would be significant for Brummies and Leicester would most likely lose a fair occasional walk up too. The fly in the ointment too is the ongoing situation re Wasps and the Stadium there and the whilst the team are doing far better than they were when in the 3rd tier and a small Community stadium at Brandon for soccer was mooted (I think Cov were playing at Northampton at the time) it's not outside the realms that soccer could be considered for that site if the Ricoh is suddenly not available to CCFC. That said CCFC in their current progression would need 25000 + Arena and that's never going to be on the Brandon site due to infrastructure. So, I agree , a battle won but unfortunately still a massive war to fight,
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Riders will ho where the money is. Lawson was on a big guarantee at Lakeside and Eastbourne courtesy of Jon Cook in an era where guarantees were getting out of hand. He can't have a guarantee any more so riders will gravitate to Clubs who can guarantee income in another way. It won't be illegal for any Club linked sponsor to say offer 3 new bikes and a van... The long established riders like Lawson, Bomber, Scotty will be weighing up the best deals. Clubs with big Sponsors will be very attractive.
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Brennan become a bit of a whinger maybe they'll look to cash in. Wonder if Lewis Kerr might go back to Glasgow? Although I think he's (Kerr) headed to Oxford to join up with Peter Shroeck again.
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Very logical in one way as he can focus on Poland and be there most Saturdays with only one Saturday Track now in CL, easy flights in/out of Glasgow and means one UK base and focus. He can focus midweek on Denmark not have to to/fro UK on a Monday and Thursday. He'll be racing home matches on the best track in UK and on cracking Poland. He'll be much fresher. Statement of intent from Glasgow and the sport will be all the better for it certainly the CL.
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He's a Plymouth asset is he not? Got nothing to do with Poole or Holders then has it? Surely he has to get permission from the Club of whom he is an asset! Complete lack of respect Poole have for other Clubs is and remains a complete disgrace.
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ZC is a Plymouth asset is he not? What if Plymouth refused a loan to Poole.? What if they loaned him elsewhere? It's rumoured that Poole refused to allow any of their team to Guest for Plymouth after Plymouth whipped them at home and drew at Poole. Not sure if that's true may be someone coukd see if any Poole rider guested after that point.? twit for tat is possible although may be Mark Phillips and Mattie Bates have a bit more integrity than the win at all cost Ford's.
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Nice one Lewy. Your Waitrose Shares just doubled as they report a 1000% increase in Andrex Aloe Vera Deluxe Toilet Rolls in Dorset.
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Any truth in the rumour that you may seek to swap Zach Cook for Richard Lawson and then loan Lawson to Glasgow?
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Could we all have a whip round to assist poor old Arthur. He clearly needs a few slices to complete his loaf as he's obviously missing some - even stale ones will fill in the gaps.
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Been told by a fairly reliable source that Leicester have moved UP on understanding they won't get a share of the Discovery TV pot for a few seasons. Same source has said that once final figures are known (following delayed Play Offs) that BSN contribution to each CL Club will be a 5 figure sum (before the decimal place ) so that initiative seems to have been a massive success for the CL in it's first season. It suggests that the sum generated to be split by 10 CL Clubs is very close to the sum given to PL Clubs by Discovery. (if the above figures of ciurrent TV deal are correct). That's a pretty damning verdict on the highly paid Marketing Consultant employed by BSPL to negotiate the TV deal if correct (some have suggested Discovery deal is 100k a year over 5 years but some think it's 500k a year for 5 years but based on the majority view of 100 k for 5 years then BSN has made a cracking start and the product isn't radically inferior) Naturally they appeal to different markets, Discovery to a Global market, BSN to a very niche in-built market. Jittendra and his BSN team though should be very proud of their efforts.
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Oxford or Brummies. Would fit in nicely at either. Very popular at PB
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strange as he showed signs of improving on a few occasions. wonder if he'll pair up with his mate Broc somewhere? Broc seems to be really struggling with shoulder injuries and confidence though so not sure where they could go. Hopefully NOT Birmingham as not sure either would be increasng their averages much in 2023. Does Dillon still have work permit qualification as didn't he miss out on top spots in US Finals last year? (just something in the back of my mind about that).
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He's on an average where there is a lot of competition and fractions count. His attitude stinks and he'll be in competition with guys who are real team players and not a spoilt brat. He could probably have picked his club 3 seasons ago, now I doubt if many would touch him.
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If Roynon wants to continue his impressive BSN career which could open up new chances after he finishes riding a Friday home track may not be ideal. I can see him at Plymouth with Coles. Kemp may well be in last chance saloon and EWR is one of his better tracks.
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Jubilee championship league
HGould replied to westlakejawa's topic in SGB Championship League Speedway
Irrespective of the Clubs involved a complete and utter farce and more proof that none of the current sports top table are fit for purpose. Three Clubs qualified At least one of the three (the one without BSPL Director involved) at least had the balls and sense to say that they couldn't stage their Fixture. Ford and Bates now cobble together this shambolic joke and Godfrey and Louis are complicit in it. The sport is a laughing stock a FH complete joke. -
I think Danny King is one of those rare riders that offers far more than just points. He's an excellent Captain on and off the track and even when he may be under par points wise is always helping others. He takes pressure off others. Lawson is a big points scorer but has never really wanted captaincy responsibilities although a good mentor. Worrall may be the more dispensible of the three. If any of them were free and available, I'd want Danny at Brummies over the other pair every day of the week. Top bloke.
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It's good on paper but I've seen it fail in another sport for one basic reason even with the very best intentions of most involved. Your 200 most passionate fans contribute a sort of contractual amount monthly or one off. Obviously though some of them want a perk or benefit for that, such as free or reduced admission. Human nature is also that some of those will want to act like "King dick" and saviour but probably want to come in free and end up paying no more than if they just went to every match and paid. So if your average and budgeted crowd is 500, but the core 200 are getting in for free or on a discount as they are contributing to build or save the club, your actual paying crowd is 300, and you are quickly back where you started, not enough in, too much out and disenchantment. Sugar daddy's are few and far between and sponsorship and advertising will be desperately hard to find with the economic crisis and rampant inflation and increased interest rates affecting everyone.
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Lawson would have been on a fat guarantee at Lakeside and Eastbourne and presumably Plymouth. Poole don't pay guarantees and he's responded in great style by upping his scoring if not his average. Fair play to him. Hopefully the BSPL will render guarantees as history as the Sport can't afford them. By signing for Poole, he's also had 2 semis and 2 finals in both Cup and League Play Off (8 meetings) he wouldn't have had at Plymouth, guarantee or not, and won medals. Win win I'd say for him, more income and more meetings and a secure future at Poole, more meetings to help cover what he was still owed by Lakeside and Eastbourne in the past.
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I don't think Brummies (nor Oxford for that matter) will go down the "Danish route" or riders that are contracted to Denmark. Of course it'll be up to those Clubs to try to accomodate their Opponents who have and to the BSPL I'd suggest to strongly police excessive "Guests and absences" to protect Oxford and Birmingham to ensure that they are not messed about by Danish League absentees. Some Danish riders may also have to balance the options of being in the UK on Mondays and Thursdays for PL commitments and the economics of riding in DSL with possibly bigger pay days in UK although naturally Danish sponsors will want them in Denmark
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Will be great to see Worky back. NDL would seem best starting place to bed everything in over first season.
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Anything that stops or limits guarantees has to be a positive. Both heat leaders on 4 figure sums and reserves on 4 point guarantees. A few riders are clearly not on guarantees this season who may have been in the past with a resultant improvement on consistency. One aspect of 2 times home and away, which I agree with 100% is what does it mean for NDL at clubs who run 2 teams. Some can run double headers (not popular with fans) some can't, will it make at least some Clubs pull out of NDL. Hopefully we get a 40 point limit a logic to run A fixtures then B fixtures with A scheduled to finish by end of June and B sometime in August. Icing on the cake for me would be an aggregate bonus point for A and B fixtures to keep excitement going all season.
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He's always been a bad loser, right back to NDL days. He's got great ability but his problems are in his head and understanding where his limitattions are and not having false or raised expectations. Fear he's now in a viscious circle of having unattainable expectation of himself, leading to frustration and then it all gets too much for him to process. At Poole he's had excellent mentors on and off the track but it hasn't worked for him there as it should have. His strop last night in Heat 14 was bad enough, to then act like he did whilst his team mates were celebrating was contemptuous really. Showing disappointment is one thing if its done at the right time but that was n't the time nor the place. Not sure where he goes from here, doubtful if he'll get another PL chance in 2023 and he'll almost certainly be looking for another CL Club. Starting to look like another Bickley.
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Whilst the whole lead up and indeed the CL season from early September onwards has descended in to a complete and utter farce you can only congratulate Poole on an outstanding season and commiserate with Leicester (as you have to with any team that wins a League but then fails to win a Play Off). The fact is, and it seems blatantly obvious, is that the Jubillee / Summer Cup totally destroyed what could have been an excellent League season, which was gaining momentum and excitement in to the driest / hottest July in years and was the n inexplicably halted for 3-4 weeks by a frankly banal / pointless hughe mistake of a "fixture filler" at a time when Fixtures did not need filling. As a "Spring "(as we saw with the Shield in 2019) or "Autumn" (as an option for those who wish to enter) regional and then one off Final based Competion it may work but PLEASE never again interrupt a League season in such a stupid way! It'll be interesting to see which Teams actually line up for 2023 with what is rumoured to be a 40 point limit. Great that Edinburgh are back in, good luck to Leicester on moving up, that releases 7 good riders, a few Clubs will have to wheel and deal to get under new limit and hopefully a more balanced league and no one else drops out! The Sport at Board / MC level (call it what you want its a Management Committee masquerading as a Board and therein I thiink lies a massive ICEBURG) needs radical members change. The issue since the BSPL became "L" and no longer "A" is that it is now run by a Board of Directors legally and not a management committee, (legally its a massive difference in terms of roles and responsibilities) and the danger is that it restricts those who may have in the past wanted to sit at the top table and input new ideas but who aren't prepared to take the financial responsibilities that now entails. Hopefully we can have a 9 Team CL in 2023 (at least 9 teams) with a League starting in April, finishing in August and Play Offs done and dusted by early September with either a Spring or Autumn regional Competition with a one off final at Belle Vue with winners of "North / Midland / South" that does not impede with the League programme. It would also be nice to schedule in a set CL Riders Championship, a set CL Pairs and a set CL 4's as one offs like in the past with Peterborough staging the 4's as a neutral venue and the others also sensibly shared out. Have a happy, safe winter everyone