Falcon1983

I will explain I mean if there was some form of standard points money on offer in a revamped semi pro league, either team racing or individual you could start by basing it off 600-800 per meeting or per round or however the format is So let's say it's for a team championship but based on the 4TT structure, that's 4 clubs at one track, 16 heats of racing If you say 800 x £18 thats £14,400 so £900 worth of prize money per race 4th = £50 3rd = £100 2nd = £200 1st = £400 That works out at £750 per heat so promoter already has £150 left over per heat plus whatever excess he gets through the gate If at Foxhall for example they can easily double 800 people so the promoter or series will have £2,400 + £14,400 which would be profitable after costs Less racing so less costs to the riders in terms of maintenance, if they can secure enough sponsorship to cover racing costs and they average say 3 seconds and a last place over 20 meetings a season that's £13000 from a hobby

If team speedway was to stay I think something like a 12 team league with a squad of 5 riders and it runs on a 4TT format even at semi professional standards with a youth league similar to what the conference is now. That would at least give fans the chance to identify with their club, no doubling up and also its individual racing but with a team goal in mind. If standardised points money was brought in across the board also so you earn what you score per meeting based on say 600-800 spectators then promoters could even make money The sport either needs one professional league or division or individual or even semi pro, the sport is not a profession any more it's a hobby and riders need to understand this

You could only realistically use tracks that are also used for other events, as there will only be a handful of meeting per year, so those only facilitated for speedway on it's own and has no other income other than speedway will be for housing, which is what will happen to the sport eventually anyway.

100% currently should be a 5 round championship perhaps the only speedway other than the play offs that BT should cover

The tracks that are able to stage other events etc could put on other types of meetings such as perhaps the likes of Ipswich, Lynn, Boro and Mildenhall staging their own mini series of the Star of East Anglia. Obviously what I am saying is that perhaps someone like Sky Sports and a branded sponsor can make a 10 round series work financially for riders, let's be honest here also the "Super 16" in what would be the top flight many get income from riding in other countries. If promoted well you could get 4,000 to 5000 spectators at Foxhall alone for one round, I know alot of speedway supporters are over a certain age where routine is everything and team speedway means everything but this is my point, team speedway only means it to fans, it doesn't mean it to riders Go back years where there were genuine rivalries between clubs, fans and riders, now in a fans head rivalries still exist however for clubs and riders they do not.. Riders due to doubling up and social media are all mates, how do you feel when your team in the championship tweet that Rory Schlein scored 9 points tonight for Wolverhampton (as an example) why would YOUR club tweet about your rider scoring points for another team? Because he is not your rider is he, that's not a team sport Then how much team riding is there anyway in this gate and go, win at all costs no matter where your team mate is because winning maximises my own income. Personally I'm one who prefers individual meetings and can see speedway has no way of coming back from where it is now despite how many times the BSPA gloss over it every season

I've been thinking about this for a while, team speedway is not really a viable option at the moment in terms of riders doubling up etc across 2 or 3 divisions. I understand they are trying to do away with it over 5 years and that there are a crop of youngsters whom in 5 years time may be able to boost numbers. However, what state will the sport be in when 5 years is up, will there be a sport left? Personally i think team speedway is already on it's way out, it's only the fans whom cling on to team speedway purely as they have already built a relationship and affection with their chosen club. I think individual speedway is the way forward for the Sport perhaps not the way forward for clubs. I can see there being perhaps 4 divisions of 16 riders call it a Premier League, Division One, Division Two and Three Potentially ran to the same format as the speedway grand prix, with a broadcaster like Sky TV doing something big with the main league where the prize money can be something quite attractive to riders. Run from April - August covering 10 championship rounds, with some form of promotion/relegation bottom 4 riders in the premiership going down top 4 from Division One going up etc. All the way down to Division 3 Rounds ran on Friday, Saturday or Sundays to boost attendances Just for fun, which 16 would be in your premiership? Mine would be 1. Jason Doyle 2. Max Fricke 3. Troy Batchelor 4. Robert Lambert 5. Craig Cook 6. Kenneth Bjerre 7. Rory Schlein 8. Jacob Thorsell 9. Brady Kurtz 10. Jack Holder 11. Hans Andersen 12. Chris Harris 13. Danny King 14. Scott Nicholls 15. Richard Lawson 16. Dan Bewley Ten Rounds at Belle Vue Swindon Glasgow Ipswich Olympic Stadium Sheffield Poole Kings Lynn Birmingham Peterborough

Dont they have transponders now

52-38 Witches Lawson 8 King 9 Harris 7 Kennet 7 Pieczek 7 Howarth 5 Heeps 9

Everyone knows witches more often than not will struggle away from home after heat 12, should have got summers 3 rides out of the way early to have a stronger finish using heeps to the absolutely maximum, tonight he was used to his maximum but not absolute

Wrong Richard

Richard costing witches the win then

To put a different slant on it Howarth probably wouldn't score the same as JA when fully fit, so you have to take into consideration what JA would have scored tomorrow night being half fit so a return of 7 from Howarth over 4 rides would be decent any more than 7 from say 5 rides would be welcomed

Not sure if witches can use a guest facility for KP as rules seem to change every 2 minutes but if a facility was allowed they should have got a guest as lessons showed last season. I'll stick by my prediction because I don't know how fit JA is it's his first foxhall meeting since his injury will be therefore be a little tentative, also not sure of EK has any experience of the new foxhall so his best way round it might not still be the best way so I think he'll need a ride or two to settle although I would expect him to get 3 points from his first 2 rides which is more than Bellego would get from 7 rides. I think it comes down to which TB turns up on the night, if he fancies foxhall on Thursday evening I think the Robin's takes the points if he doesn't I can maybe see witches his 45/46/47/48 but can't see them hitting more I just hope it's a cracking meeting, a lot of good riders on show so hope they have conditions to allow them to showcase their skills I'm not a results man just want to see good racing, predictions are just a little bit of fun

Lawson 8 bomber 6 kennett 7 king 10 heeps 8 allen 5 Doyle 13 Jensen 7 Tobias 7 Ellis 6 Batch 9 Perks 1 Starke 3

46-44 to Swindon It's been a great start for the Witches no doubt about it but it has to come to an end at some point and Swindon are the team to do it. Heats 13 & 15 is where the downfall begins and I'll throw in there as well that tactically the Witches will make some form of glaring error along the way

I'm sure witches would have had Schlein at least if they had made the decision to go PL early doors rather than to make up the numbers

From what I have seen which is very limited I would have Schlein Riss King Jensen Cook Heeps Allen

Question for all really... looking at the riders and how they have performed so far who would you put in your witches 1-7 now if you could start from scratch and within the points limit, just a bit of fun....

So witches kept him to pick up a league point at belle vue, how many points have they lost or allowed other teams to gain

The Bellego change took far too long although it was pleasing to see a change, bomber needs to bomb on now

If witches lose and Bomber scores poorly, needs to be the next one gone that week

My best memory of Bellego as a witch will be when he pipped Schlein on the line in the BT meeting, what a ride!

Kenneth surely strengthens Ipswich home and away comparing bellegos form not what Bellego is capable of, that's why the change has happened right? Harris and Bellego should have gone a couple of weeks ago when others riders were available or sort of available I'd have preferred Scott and cook over Harris and Bellego

Will be giving this one a miss

You probably see the main event covering liverpool, London etc. My event when I done it was purely regional at the same venue in Essex 4-5 times per year They may be different sports but promoting happens in similar ways, speedway just dont promote, the most backwards sport I know lol