Falcon1983
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Cook, Vissing and Kennett banned.
Falcon1983 replied to Steve Shovlar's topic in SGB Premiership Speedway League
Cook Vissing Kennet They should all receive a ban for their championship club only, if they are banned from riding for their premiership club then might as well bang that final nail in the coffin of this absolute ridiculous sport -
Riders who love to race speedway I think you'd be surprised by how many will race and then work for a living which is how the sport should be Out of the current crop I think you lose maybe 15-20 riders
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The problem is, you are looking at my idea and comparing it to what it is now. What if the money on offer is irrelevant? And people race speedway as they did "back in the day" because they loved the thrill of it and got something back towards expenses? This is what I'm talking about, look at the Superstock 600 series at BSB probably similar running costs over a season as Speedway.... these riders are not professional racers, they have jobs, are sponsored to offset costs etc. The main real difference is the fact that they get zero prize money, it's all cost, cost, cost with only sponsorship or money from a day job.... this is the level of speedway in this country... If it's not good enough for say Troy Batchelor (sorry Troy) then simply do not race in the UK, this is the only way forward or it will die. I see a lot of middle order riders enjoying life outside of speedway as it is and holidays etc. So the sport must pay ok in the middle order, riders will always want more, you cant blame them
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P.s. £26k ain't bad if you have covered your costs in sponsorship, also taking into consideration crash damage etc.
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Think you all miss the point... UK Speedway should not have "professional speedway riders" in it, riders are part of the overall problem in the sport not being professional as doubling up has allowed them two levels of income, all riders are going to claim they are skint when they are not just so they can earn more. British speedway needs to go back to racing on the best night for each club and if riders cannot attract enough sponsorship to cover costs etc then get a job! Many riders at BSB level would love £26k back in prize money over a season, loads have jobs too... Your "professional" MMA fighter on the domestic scene works for a living and fits in training, fight camps and fights... The riders have had it far too easy for them for too long.
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I think any of the riders that actually love racing speedway would race no matter what money is on offer, many a rider of the past raced for the love of the sport and have jobs. As mentioned British Superbikes have riders who pay to race as it's a professional series but has amateurs competing within in it, there is no prize money its covered by themselves or sponsors. So riders would have to basically get sponsorship in to cover the short fall or running costs. So let's take a no.1 riding in am 8 team league, 2 home and 2 away meeting so that's 28 meetings per season at club level maybe with some form of KO Cup so if you get to the final that's 6 meetings. 34 meetings, say they average 10 points per meeting thats £500 x 34 = £17,000 in points money, most support class riders at BSB level would bite your arm off for that to offset their costs. This level of rider presuming he's British should qualify for the British Championship. Say he scores 10 points per round at £70 per point that's £700 x 7 that's another £4,900 70 points gives an overall championship finish of say 4th that's another £5,000 So from 41 meetings, said rider earns £26,900 not bad prize money from a non professional sport. I'd even go to extremes of making British Speedway a short summer series maybe ran from late May til early September and only have one home and away league fixture and concentrate more on the individual championship
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I think it's time to wave goodbye to those riders who race in the GP series and those who earn a good wage in Poland and just give uk Speedway the opportunity to grow again before maybe the pendulum swings back to UK speedway where potentially bigger names return but I cannot see that happening for a good 20 years, the BSPA needs to 10yr plan and look to grow domestically not chop and change every 12 months. British Speedway at any level in this country should not be associated with the word "Professional" as it is not a professional sport, it does not owe a promoter, or a rider a professional wage. If you look at British Superbikes one of the league motorcycle champions in the world there are 5 or more categories circa 200+ riders, there is no prize money, maybe a handful of riders are paid to race, costs are mainly covered by sponsors and most of these riders have day jobs, all of these racers are ultimately trying to be the next Marc Marquez but for 99% of the paddock they wont make a living out of the sport. I think to progress it should be 2 leagues only, go back to the British League consisting of 8 teams perhaps those with the better facilities/support. Then have the national league made up of the remaining clubs. Purely as an example Poole, Ipswich, Belle Vue, Kings Lynn, Wolves, Swindon, Sheffield, Leicester. £10 Entry for spectators Revert back to the old 13 heat format £50 per point speedway Riders will have to make up the lost income via sponsorship. National league can be more based around £20 per point. British League play offs on BT Sport only. Have a multi round British Championship across 7 rounds all LIVE on BT Sport, if paid by BT Sport if they contribute £30,000 per round. Offer £70 per point (1/3 of BTs contribution) £70,000 then distributed to top 8 at the end of the championship 8th - £1,000 7th - £2,000 6th - £3,000 5th - £4,000 4th - £5,000 3rd - £10,000 2nd - £15,000 1st - £30,000
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Kings Lynn stars v Ipswich witches 5th Aug
Falcon1983 replied to Badge's topic in SGB Premiership Speedway League
52-38 to witches -
Poole v Ipswich 8th August 2019. Prem.
Falcon1983 replied to Steve Shovlar's topic in SGB Premiership Speedway League
Ipswich to win to keep things interesting for a little while longer... Harris - 6 Heeps - 6 Lawson - 6 Allen - 6 King - 8 Kennet - 8 KP - 6 -
Ipswich vs Belle Vue 1/8/19
Falcon1983 replied to 89buttons's topic in SGB Premiership Speedway League
I'm going to say 16 or less from both meeting for Chris Bombed Harris -
Ipswich vs Belle Vue 1/8/19
Falcon1983 replied to 89buttons's topic in SGB Premiership Speedway League
NBJ used to ride Foxhall quite well if the right one turns up can see 7 or 8 points but can also see a score of around 3 -
Ipswich v wolves (Thursday)
Falcon1983 replied to TommyTanker's topic in SGB Premiership Speedway League
King Kennet Harris Very poor showing from all 3 lucky witches got back in, why wasnt allen used more? -
Poole v Ipswich. Prem. 18th July 2019
Falcon1983 replied to Steve Shovlar's topic in SGB Premiership Speedway League
Two slight things I'd change that doesn't pull up many trees Team kevlars for all teams in the top division at least, also would change rules for away teams Highest average rider must ride at 1. But 6 and 7 can be any 2 riders from the 3 lowest average riders in your team Gives away managers more to think about, for example maybe witches could drop heeps back to 6 and push Kennet into 4 or put Allen at 2 with heeps moving back to 7 Think this rule base would generate some better meetings potentially more away wins -
I'd have gone Lawson at 2, Herpes at 4
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Ipswich v Poole Prem. 11/6/19
Falcon1983 replied to Steve Shovlar's topic in SGB Premiership Speedway League
What witches need more is to simply win by a big enough margin to not let teams take any points Let's hope Richard keeps his guys cool, no point risking certain moves for little reward which is what happened to Allen earlier this season Keep it close, keep it in control with few risks possible. -
Should we scrap Team Speedway?
Falcon1983 replied to Falcon1983's topic in SGB Premiership Speedway League
I would agree with this 100% If you had 4 divisions of 16 riders for the individual series you could then have 16 teams for the 4team club championship And do some form of NFL draft system in terms of picks -
Ipswich now weaker with Heeps in the 1-5 no doubting he will hold his own but Kennet wont score what heeps has done at reserve Heeps needs to slow it down and get back in that reserve spot for the play offs ha
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4 points at Peterborough 0 from Belle Vue 1 from Swindon
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Should we scrap Team Speedway?
Falcon1983 replied to Falcon1983's topic in SGB Premiership Speedway League
Very familiar with all 3 well bar stadium rent, but even on the figures quoted deducting VAT and operational costs, still profitbal for a promoter, the same promoter who claim they dont make any money from the sport which they do or they wouldn't promote -
Should we scrap Team Speedway?
Falcon1983 replied to Falcon1983's topic in SGB Premiership Speedway League
This is the problem with promoters, no ambition, why not the olympic stadium for say a british final or end of season round of a championship? Speedway needs to be in the heart beat of this country and that is London