Falcon1983

I think some of these future stars are more than capable of beating the odd second string in a watered down league

Everyone has a role to play in the future of the sport I think for domestic Speedway if its £15/20 with kids free then that is an OK price

What i don;t understand is that there are quite a few european riders who won't be riding in 2021 yet their clubs are all over social media saying they are using the same team or trying to, I don't think many at the BSPA actually spoke to their 2021 riders beforehand to see if most are coming back in 2021 There are going to be absolute bucket loads of team changes

Believe Seth is signed to MSS Kawasaki which is Colchester based to Crump riding for Ipswich fits in very well with all logistics

What is the scunthorpe team and average pre lockdown?

Unless sponsorship dictates Crump in the side of course

Is he staying in Ipswich? He may have made it public saying he wants to honour his contract but does the club, or does Nicolai know he won't honour it and was trying to gloss over to look good to fans etc. Crump does look likely however on average but commercially perhaps sponsors have put more money into the club based on Crump riding, and does CL believe Crump will put more bums on seats at Foxhall, I am sure non Witches fans would travel at least once if they live local-ish just to watch Crump ride if their own side isn't running in the Premier League. It's going to be very interesting

Kemp will surely be one of the no.7 riders on a 4 or below I personally think they will replace Klindt, think the article in the Star was a little bit of a PR stunt

What were the riders averages before?

Yes I have seen that one Jason, think that is the meeting that stopped Coventry getting into the KO Cup Final or something like that, its just a shame that there is not much around from that Era as wanted to see more from his British league days

Where do you think he'll fit in, what average does he come in on?

Its ok he's alive and well... I've been spending this lockdown trying to find old footage of dad riding Now I have purchased some footage on DVD from rerun videos from his Exeter days and obviously there are alot of meeting I mostly remember his Exeter from around 1988 to 1992 when he then retired. I've been searching YouTube for footage from before then or from meetings I cant get on DVD I've found the 89 4TT at Peterborough which was broadcast on wheels, I've found a full meeting of Leicester vs Wolves and one race vs Coventry which stopped them reaching a KO Cup final If anyone knows how to obtain footage or knows anything please let me know, I doubt there would be any footage from his scunthorpe, ipswich or boston days but hoping there might be more Leicester ones potentially Maybe some lions fans on here can help out as I doubt there is any scunthorpe footage

Great list I've counted at least 26 riders who possibly wont come to Britain to race with 6 of those 100% definitely not in the UK Leaves slim pickings If you go back to my theory you're literally asking teams at the AGM who wants to sit out 2021 but here is what we want to do in 2022 so plan early Whatever they decide they need to also have 2022 more or less sorted in terms of set up even if you pencil Swindon in and they dont return

I stand by what I have already said and that there are too many clubs for the sport to thrive of any sort in the UK I am not moaning saying that now their won't be enough teams, someone else said that all clubs could run if riders were allowed to double up/down but I am asking a question, if most of the aussie riders and euroepans can't compete in the UK in 2021 there will be be enough riders to fill every single club - so it goes back to my original post of having some form of British League racing with limited teams i.e. those who can run a 1-7 Just because Swindon and potentially Poole might follow suit, it doesn't mean the end to a 2021 season

Fair points but what if a lot of the Aussies and Europeans can't do the 2021 season so you're only left with predominantly British riders Do we allow every rider to triple up/down so that the premier, championship and national league run a league because if it gets to that stage there are only going to be enough riders for 8 or 9 clubs to run 7 man teams Even with 6 man teams it's not much better unless you then look at 4 or 5 rider teams

I dont think it matters that the younger promoters are taking up the positions because they still have a voting system so the majority of people who vote are the same from previous years and not all but most are in it for themselves. For the sport to gain any sort of recognition in this country it needs less clubs competing it is that simply but over the next few years that will happen naturally

Loss making meetings? Thought speedway never made money for years all clubs plead poverty unless the reality is different Restricting clubs to individual meetings vs potentially not having a 2021 season at all? This is the issue with Speedway in this country, far too many clubs to make it work Hope the BSPA have a good plan because there are going to be absolutely loads of riders unavailable to ride in 2021

Speedway if any will be sparse so if a landlord won't open a stadium someone else takes the slot

With the BSPA only meeting next week and everywhere else in Europe all sorted for whatever Speedway offering they will provide in 2021, a lot of talk in the UK is that Speedway is doomed, but for me some form of Speedway in 2021 while looking to build into 2022 with a structured long term fixed plan can do wonders for the Sport in the UK - only my opinion but instead of trying to punch above our weight class, we need to understand our place in the rider market, and our plan should be to develop our next future World champions, even if that means in the future they no longer ride in the UK. For 2021 I would forget all about Premier League, Championship, National League and just get 8 clubs together who can form a "British League" Championship, purely focusing on showing some form of Speedway in 2021. For example 2021 British League Belle Vue Ipswich Kings Lynn Peterborough Sheffield Swindon Wolves Glasgow could form together to make an 8-team Championship, the other clubs etc. can get together and provide some form of speedway throughout the year with individual meetings or area championships but these would be run at a semi=pro/amateur setting. So we take our 8 teams, and we have each team running on their own chosen race night, home and away once so 14 league meetings, the team finishing top of the league are Champions, the top 4 sides go into an end of season KO Cup (two legged meetings) so a potential for 14-20 meetings of Speedway. The Top 12 average British Riders at the start of the season and the top 8 U23 averaged British Riders go into a "British Riders Championship" with one round hosted at each of the 8 venues in the league over the duration of the season so a split GP style series which will crown a "British" champion and a "British U23" champion at the same meeting so the 12 Main Championship riders would compete over 12 heats no final The 8 Under23 riders compete over 8 heats no final As the BSPA have left it so long to decide what is happening for 2021 and so much uncertainty make the league up of the following riders Adam Ellis Alex Spooner Alfie Bowtell Anders Rowe Ashley Morris Ben Barker Ben Morley Cameron Heeps Charles Wright Chris Harris Connor Bailley Connor Coles Connor Mountain Craig Cook Dan Gilkes Dan Thompson Danny King Danny Phillips Danyon Hume Drew Kemp Edward Kennett Henry Atkins Jack Thomas James Sarjeant James Shanes James Wright Jason Edwards Joe Lawlor Joe Thompson Jordan Jenkins Jordan Palin Josh Auty Josh Bates Kye Thomson Kyle Bickley Kyle Howarth Kyle Newman Leon Flint Lewis Kerr Luke Riddick Matt Marson Matthew Wethers Max Clegg Nathan Greaves Nathan Stoneman Paul Starke Richard Andrew Richard Lawson Rob Ledwith Ryan Kinsley Scott Campos Scott Nicholls Simon Lambert Stefan Nielsen Steve Worrall Tom Bacon Tom Brennan Tom Woolley William Lawson Obviously taken out a dozen or so names that may still ride in 2021 so could be a stronger field available. Then for 2022 look to keep an 8-team British League where we could welcome back riders who missed 2021 such as Tungate as one example and then create a "National League North & South" which is open to Continental riders (riders 6&7 have to be British) but opens the door up for more Aussies to come over to fill spaces and each team are allowed to track 3 non-Continental riders so you could see some old hands like Ostegaard riding or some young up coming riders from Germany etc. National League North Bradford Berwick Birmingham Edinburgh Leicester Newcastle Redcar Scunthorpe National League South Eastbourne Kent Somerset Isle of Wight Mildenhall Plymouth Poole each club ride home and away in their leagues to definite Northern & Southern Champions, both champions race off home and away for the "National Title" there can also be a regional KO Cup and an overall "National Cup" where all teams are drawn out of a crash helmet.

Even if it was the only sport to run it wouldn't get any mainstream media local maybe as it does so often now but mainstream media would rather look at gossip/rumours in football, boxing, cricket, F1 etc.

I've never been to the facility myself so have no idea on size but its online today they are exploring other uses for it as they are stopping greyhounds

Not sure if it's been discussed but could speedway for Peterborough be moved from the show ground to the greyhound stadium? Has this ever been explored? Seen today they have cancelled greyhound racing and are looking at other opportunities

Crump out Holder in then for next year

Whatever happens it wont be an instant hit, it will take time to build an audience

Even if it's the top two leagues UK will have to build a series that stands on it's own. If Poland is where the money is in the top 2 tiers then nothing can be done riders will go where the money is and the UK will either help them get there or see them on their way back down the ladder.