Falcon1983
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Riders who give up when at the back
Falcon1983 replied to Chris116's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
i've not read all replies but maybe 4-3-2-1 could work if the rider finishing last crosses the line within a fixed time limit after the race winner, stops riders just cruising around at the back for that one point, will make them be under full power -
More than Likely but Louis will need to play the game, just like BV will and all the others sides, surely a conversation with some of these riders at the very least must happen, could Doyle even perhaps convince a rider like Lidsey to come to Witches over Belle Vue? There are a few riders on very good averages whether they will race in the UK or not is another matter, I like the look of the side below apart from one rider 1. Jason Doyle 10.32 2. Lewis Kerr 4.59 3. Danny King 6.40 4. Erik Riss 6.00 5. Brady Kurtz 8.25 6. Paul Starke 3.44 R/S Danyon Hume
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now with the points limit confirmed 1. Jason Doyle 10.32 2. Troy Batchelor 5.57 3. Erik Riss 6.00 4. Mikkel Michelsen 5.67 5. Danny King 6.40 6. Lewis Kerr 4.59 R/S Danyon Hume
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If there is cash to splash Bjerre, Thomson, Iversen, Michelsen, Andersen, King, Jenkins
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sound proof indoor stadium on its way....
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Glasgow are making the last ditch move to run in the PL with Basso already secured
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if they are guaranteed a play off spot before any transfer window closes sign Robert Lambert then due to illness/injury just run R/R for him until the play-offs commence bring him back in - job done
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I'd probably save a couple of hundred pounds by not going if that was the team But saying that, its probably not far off Doyle, King, Riss & Hume nailed on, I can see why Batch may ride at no.2 with Jason, which then leaves 2.... I genuinely believe that there should be a minimum and maximum average for team building so if its 3.00 as a lowest in the prem and 2.00 the lowest in the champ, then surely 9.00 and 8.00 should be the highest, all you do is penalise riders who have exceptional seasons
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Leicester lions 2023 (PREMIERSHIP)
Falcon1983 replied to PhilTheAce's topic in SGB Premiership Speedway League
Plus Mountain, D. Thompson, Worral plus one -
Hans at reserve so thats a strong reserve at home Still allows points to bring in someone to back up masters
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I agree with you but an individual getting £1m is decent, wish British speedway was still getting this level of investment but spent in the right way
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20% of a £5m contract is £1m good earner if you can get it
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There must be some kind of thirst for streaming if clubs are getting say £10k each over the course of a season just from streaming I dont know the numbers only BSN know but I'd have thought they'd get 100 people max per event but then again they offered bundles and packages didnt they
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Im lead to believe the cut was no bigger than 20% which is usually about the maximum you'd take in a "finders fee" that was still a hefty pot of money, if only sky would come back but saying that, Discovery are interested in throwing more money at domestic speedway, they obviously need a churn of riders to reach world level so they need domestic leagues to be successful
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Think you'll be over the limit slightly lol
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£500k over 5 years is peanuts compared to what Poland get, it only equates to £100k per season and Bartosz gets more than that for signing his contract My memory evades me but someone pulled the plug on British Speedway a season early it could have been BT Sport or someone else but there was one season when either Eurosport or BT Sport picked up the coverage on a deal where they simply covered broadcasting costs and no money exchanged hands But the 5 year deal did include a monetary amount with £100k being the figure talked about shared between clubs due to loss of gate money when they have meetings televised
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I guess if you take out Batch, put in Woffy and a 4.00 then thats actually the best option ha just need that euromillions win now...
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The strongest side I can write down would be 1. Doyle 10.32 2. Batch 5.57 3. Wozniak 5.92 4. Covatti 5.27 5. Michelsen 6.02 6. Lidsey 5.16 7. Hume 3.98 other riders Riss 6.00 / Przedeplski 6.00 Woffinden 7.03
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absolutely ZERO chance of course, the costs would be astronomical to say the least
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Glad Mike isn't picking the side Doyle, Hansen, Riss, Juhl Pedersen, Dudek, Gusts, Hume that'll do
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And over the past page or two there is the fundamental issue of the sport Championship supporters want to see premiership riders compete for their clubs (nothing wrong with people wanting it) but it does not progress the sport, it does not progress british riders as the championship is then too strong for riders who come up from the NDL (apart from a very select talented few) So in 10 years time there will be limited British riders to fulfil team spaces, the end of Speedway
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This is the issue and its not fans fault Championship level fans are used to seeing a few bigger names in their sides, if they are removed you alienate that type of fan
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I'd go no higher than 38 points, the riders mentioned shouldn't be riding in the championship The 2nd division really should be a semi professional division anyone really averaging near or above 8 shouldnt be in it The idea behind an extended british championship is to give british riders who may never make poland some form of goal domestically and those level riders should be riding in the prem and doing the individual series Some of the aussies will miss out not being able to double down but again what is any riders purpose for riding in the UK is it not to make it to Poland? British speedway cannot subsidise any riders shortcomings in not making it and at the same time we need to make british speedway attractive firstly to British riders to even take up the sport You could i guess if you are doing a stream service provide some PPV meetings where you do a minim 3-5 round British Commonwealth series Or promoters needing meetings, trying and work with other national bodies and do some U24 international fixtures Great Britain vs Denmark/Sweden/Germany meetings that will progress what is needed, future stars If the championship falls to 36/38 then obviously admissions should be around £10/12 but it would be more cost effective for promoters if its a semi pro league Riders will want to climb the ladder to ride in the prem and the british super 12 series In MMA athletes pay for training, they dont get paid for amateur fights, the first dozen pro fights you'll be lucky to get £500 on average a fight, the goal is to fight in the UFC where the money could be very high depending on success Speedway seems to feel it has to hand out all the time, its clearly not sustainable
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I don’t personally believe there is a desire for weekly speedway anymore, looking back at when the sport was seen more of a main player in UK sport compared to now being a minority sport, there are just so many things to do in life I think Speedway needs to find its place but the promoters are still trying to push the sport like it’s the 70’s/80’s Less can sometimes be more 8 Team Premiership – Home & Away Once Top 4 into play offs 8 Team Championship – Home & Away Once Top 4 into play offs All meetings run between May – August, Play offs only in September. You could even with a reduced calendar work more closely with Sweden/Denmark to fix more fixtures so that you could see Prem clubs being able to run Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday & Thursdays. The main event of British Speedway should not be league racing anyway, it should be a major part of it like the above but the main event should be an individual series, I would put something together like the “Super 12 Championship” where the top 12 British Riders who don’t race in the polish top flight race over 10 rounds and this replaces the British Championship as we know now 1 Round in April, 2 rounds in May, June, July, August and the final round in September after league play-offs. 12 riders, 4 heats each, top 4 to the final at each round that’s 13 heats, add to the program a “Super 8 series” for riders U24 which will be our equivalent to what Poland are doing with their U24 league – they ride 4 heats each and a final, that’s 9 races so 22 heats of racing per championship round, make these rounds events, practice, meet the riders, have entertainment etc. The individual series on Eurosport, the rest of British Speedway on a Pay Monthly stream like Netflix where its £9.99 per month they get say 4 meetings a month, interviews, behind the scenes, nostalgic meetings, you could even have a feature presenting each club side throughout the season Premiership built to 42.5 limit with a minimum average of 3.00 and maximum average of 9.00 for team building so for example a rider can get an average of 11.00 during a campaign but it resets at 9.00 why penalise a rider from having a good year? Championship built to 36 limit minimum average of 2.00, that takes away the bigger names in the championship and effectively they race in the individual series. Issues that I have seen mentioned - Riders losing money? too many riders are professional riders in a non-professionally run sport, the individual series if you had prize money of £3k, £2k £1k per round to the podium finishers then had a £50k prize pot to the top 3 in the series overall the top 12 riders in this series would not have to double up/down, with 10 rounds guaranteed on Eurosport they would get more sponsorship to cover costs etc. The sport is here to survive for future generations not to give current riders a professional career, doubling up and down only benefits a smaller % of riders, Covid showed us that riders will go and get jobs if they have to, if the sport can’t offer a fulltime wage they will get part time jobs. - Landlord issues Simple really if some clubs have to run X amount of fixtures, then just hold some individual rounds, say Glasgow/Edinburgh/Berwick could host a round each of the “Scottish Open Championship” these can be run in April before the season opens up in May-August, other individual meetings can take place when fixtures are cemented and free weeks are available, you could get Ipswich, Lynn and Peterborough doing a “Star of Anglia Championship” etc. Also with no promotion or relegation in speedway what is to stop on a reduced calendar a premiership side entering a championship side? You then get 14 home and 14 away meetings I would invite someone like TalkSport to become title sponsors of the leagues, AT NO CHARGE, and use their massive social media following to promote the sport, doesn’t mean it will feature much on the radio itself but their social media platforms are HUGE and could generate more interest in the sport For the individual series I would encourage Monster to get involved plus speedway stalwarts such as Tru Plant, ATPI, Adrian Flux etc. to sponsor it to generate the funds for prize money
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Should be home and away once Top 4 into play offs Season to run from May to end of August, play offs in September No other gimmicks