Falcon1983

Let people react how they like mate, its a forum so always going to have people offer something else or not like a suggested. I have answered back on some key points especially with not having enough riders but thats why my system works Its a 7 man team but its like two sides in one, a main team and a development one But let it be shot down if needs be, i used to be a promotor, not in speedway but in another sport and pioneered some big changes in that sport so i have a little knowledge tho not a speedway product

Just for your info AI only helped put the ideas into text format not asked it to create any ideas

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1. KO Cup timing / “2-month gap” argument My Response: I’m not sure where the idea of a “two-month gap” comes from. If the aim is to crown the league winner as the actual champion — which many fans prefer over the play-off system — then you need a way to keep league racing meaningful for everyone, not just the title contenders. Using a KO Cup with the top eight qualifying provides that, similar to how football clubs aim for “European” places even if they cannot win the league. As for timing, the KO Cup does not take two months. Realistically it’s around three weeks of fixtures, assuming no rain-offs. If the league finishes around mid-September, you might run into the first week of October to complete the competition — perfectly manageable. 2. 42-point limit / rider availability / GP riders in teams My Response: Higher team-building points limits have been used before, and my suggestion follows the same logic. Riders entering from the Premiership without a Championship average would come in capped at a maximum 12-point figure, which I already outlined. Regarding the idea of each club having a “GP or top-level rider,” that depends entirely on your definition of “top-level.” A top-level rider in British Speedway is not necessarily a GP rider. We do have GP riders who already ride here and could remain involved — a positive for the league. But teams don’t have to sign a GP rider; they build according to budget, availability, and their chosen race night. Each club would select a race night that suits them and their team building. For example, Poole might avoid signing Danes if they race Wednesdays unless fixtures allow flexibility. Visiting clubs with Danish riders would need guests or R/R when clashes occur. Home fixtures are financially vital, so clubs must be allowed to choose race nights that maximise attendance and rider availability. 3. 16-heat format / mathematical structure / “race fixing” argument My Response: On the “race-fixing” point — do you genuinely think that’s something that generally happens? The format I suggested separates the meeting into a Main Card, Support Card, and Nominated Heats, creating multiple scoring opportunities while ensuring every rider has a role. This keeps meetings closer, maintains interest, and allows all riders to contribute. I can produce a race card easily — I wrote one out below. Some pairings could be tweaked (e.g., avoiding back-to-back rides), but it demonstrates the structure: Race Type Heat H1 H2 A1 A2 Main Card 1 1 2 1 2 Support Card 2 6 7 6 7 Main Card 3 3 4 3 4 Support Card 4 5 6 5 6 Main Card 5 1 3 2 4 Main Card 6 2 4 1 3 Support Card 7 6 7 6 7 Main Card 8 1 4 2 3 Main Card 9 2 3 1 4 Support Card 10 5 7 5 7 Main Card 11 4 5 2 5 Main Card 12 2 5 4 5 Main Card 13 1 3 1 3 This isn’t the “final version” — but it shows the general concept and that the format is workable. 4. Rider averages / reserves inflating averages / injury replacements My Response: Yes, reserves in a Support Card heat racing mainly against each other will naturally score higher — but they can only progress so far within the team structure. As for averages, that’s straightforward: Injury replacements come in on the starting average, not the fluctuating in-season average. If a rider begins on an 8-point figure, the injury replacement enters on that same starting number. That prevents abuse or manipulation and keeps things stable across the season. 5. Race night flexibility / availability of “top riders” / R/R My Response: I haven’t made any top riders unavailable. Each home team chooses the race night that best suits both the club and the riders they want to sign. That naturally means certain riders become easier or harder to use depending on the night — but that’s the trade-off clubs already deal with. For example, if Workington race on a weekend and Belle Vue have a rider competing abroad, Belle Vue may need a guest such as Harris. It isn’t ideal, but it’s manageable. R/R remains workable too with clear rules. For example: Missing No.1 → rides split between 2, 3, 4, with one taking an additional ride. Missing No.2 → rides shared between 3, 4 and the senior reserve, again with one rider allowed a second RR ride. Max rides could increase from 7 to 8 to accommodate. There are multiple workable approaches; I just haven’t written out every regulation in full yet. 6. Rider numbers / “uneven joke” / ability to staff 14 teams My Response: This is where your claim is incorrect. Across the Premiership, Championship, and both National League divisions, 140 riders took part last season. That is more than enough to staff 14 teams. Calling the example teams an “uneven joke” is unnecessary — they were simply examples built from a list of averages. As for top riders, a realistic set of No.1-level riders could include: Kurtz, Doyle, Kvech, Fricke, Becker, both Holders, Brennan, Masters, Bewley, Iversen, Wright, Pickering… That’s already 14 without mentioning Lidsey, Musielak, Zagar, Tungate, Janowski, etc. Some won’t ride here, but enough would. Based on average brackets: 33 riders have an average over 8 26 riders between 5.5 and 8 26 riders between 4 and 5.5 54 riders under 4 So rider availability is not the problem you claim. 7. GP-style British Championship My Response: A GP-style British Championship is a nice ambition and could work with the right sponsorship. But it doesn’t depend on Bewley, Lambert, or Woffinden — the event has run for years without two of those riders participating. The purpose of a British Championship series is to reward British riders, give them something meaningful to aim for, and provide younger riders with real motivation and opportunity. A well-marketed, well-funded national championship also serves as an effective gateway for attracting new fans. It is far easier to promote a single major event than regular league meetings. Someone attending the British Final might then come back for the club’s next home fixture — that’s how you grow audiences.

1. KO Cup timing / “2-month gap” argument My Response: I’m not sure where the idea of a “two-month gap” comes from. If the aim is to crown the league winner as the actual champion — which many fans prefer over the play-off system — then you need a way to keep league racing meaningful for everyone, not just the title contenders. Using a KO Cup with the top eight qualifying provides that, similar to how football clubs aim for “European” places even if they cannot win the league. As for timing, the KO Cup does not take two months. Realistically it’s around three weeks of fixtures, assuming no rain-offs. If the league finishes around mid-September, you might run into the first week of October to complete the competition — perfectly manageable. 2. 42-point limit / rider availability / GP riders in teams My Response: Higher team-building points limits have been used before, and my suggestion follows the same logic. Riders entering from the Premiership without a Championship average would come in capped at a maximum 12-point figure, which I already outlined. Regarding the idea of each club having a “GP or top-level rider,” that depends entirely on your definition of “top-level.” A top-level rider in British Speedway is not necessarily a GP rider. We do have GP riders who already ride here and could remain involved — a positive for the league. But teams don’t have to sign a GP rider; they build according to budget, availability, and their chosen race night. Each club would select a race night that suits them and their team building. For example, Poole might avoid signing Danes if they race Wednesdays unless fixtures allow flexibility. Visiting clubs with Danish riders would need guests or R/R when clashes occur. Home fixtures are financially vital, so clubs must be allowed to choose race nights that maximise attendance and rider availability. 3. 16-heat format / mathematical structure / “race fixing” argument My Response: On the “race-fixing” point — do you genuinely think that’s something that generally happens? The format I suggested separates the meeting into a Main Card, Support Card, and Nominated Heats, creating multiple scoring opportunities while ensuring every rider has a role. This keeps meetings closer, maintains interest, and allows all riders to contribute. I can produce a race card easily — I wrote one out below. Some pairings could be tweaked (e.g., avoiding back-to-back rides), but it demonstrates the structure: Race Type Heat H1 H2 A1 A2 Main Card 1 1 2 1 2 Support Card 2 6 7 6 7 Main Card 3 3 4 3 4 Support Card 4 5 6 5 6 Main Card 5 1 3 2 4 Main Card 6 2 4 1 3 Support Card 7 6 7 6 7 Main Card 8 1 4 2 3 Main Card 9 2 3 1 4 Support Card 10 5 7 5 7 Main Card 11 4 5 2 5 Main Card 12 2 5 4 5 Main Card 13 1 3 1 3 This isn’t the “final version” — but it shows the general concept and that the format is workable. 4. Rider averages / reserves inflating averages / injury replacements My Response: Yes, reserves in a Support Card heat racing mainly against each other will naturally score higher — but they can only progress so far within the team structure. As for averages, that’s straightforward: Injury replacements come in on the starting average, not the fluctuating in-season average. If a rider begins on an 8-point figure, the injury replacement enters on that same starting number. That prevents abuse or manipulation and keeps things stable across the season. 5. Race night flexibility / availability of “top riders” / R/R My Response: I haven’t made any top riders unavailable. Each home team chooses the race night that best suits both the club and the riders they want to sign. That naturally means certain riders become easier or harder to use depending on the night — but that’s the trade-off clubs already deal with. For example, if Workington race on a weekend and Belle Vue have a rider competing abroad, Belle Vue may need a guest such as Harris. It isn’t ideal, but it’s manageable. R/R remains workable too with clear rules. For example: Missing No.1 → rides split between 2, 3, 4, with one taking an additional ride. Missing No.2 → rides shared between 3, 4 and the senior reserve, again with one rider allowed a second RR ride. Max rides could increase from 7 to 8 to accommodate. There are multiple workable approaches; I just haven’t written out every regulation in full yet. 6. Rider numbers / “uneven joke” / ability to staff 14 teams My Response: This is where your claim is incorrect. Across the Premiership, Championship, and both National League divisions, 140 riders took part last season. That is more than enough to staff 14 teams. Calling the example teams an “uneven joke” is unnecessary — they were simply examples built from a list of averages. As for top riders, a realistic set of No.1-level riders could include: Kurtz, Doyle, Kvech, Fricke, Becker, both Holders, Brennan, Masters, Bewley, Iversen, Wright, Pickering… That’s already 14 without mentioning Lidsey, Musielak, Zagar, Tungate, Janowski, etc. Some won’t ride here, but enough would. Based on average brackets: 33 riders have an average over 8 26 riders between 5.5 and 8 26 riders between 4 and 5.5 54 riders under 4 So rider availability is not the problem you claim. 7. GP-style British Championship My Response: A GP-style British Championship is a nice ambition and could work with the right sponsorship. But it doesn’t depend on Bewley, Lambert, or Woffinden — the event has run for years without two of those riders participating. The purpose of a British Championship series is to reward British riders, give them something meaningful to aim for, and provide younger riders with real motivation and opportunity. A well-marketed, well-funded national championship also serves as an effective gateway for attracting new fans. It is far easier to promote a single major event than regular league meetings. Someone attending the British Final might then come back for the club’s next home fixture — that’s how you grow audiences.

Exactly that So clubs pick the best night for them build a side who should be available for that day and benefit mostly from those home matches

With the GP riders and those in Poland they'd opt to ride for the side that gives them most meetings on a home night so if belle vue want Kurtz they'll run Mondays He would then fit in as many away meetings where possible those that clash then his side will need to use a guest or RR There is no perfect scenario but this plan works on most levels for the home side

Does having riders available for all meetings save speedway? As a genuine product yes absolutely But what keeps most clubs going is well attended fixtures and consistent riders so one league would work, but sides must build their teams to what suits their race night to keep a consistent side and their crowd levels high Yes unfortunately it means if a weekends visiting side has 3 riders in Poland there will be RR and guest but with limited away supporters we would just have to cope with what brings the crowds in to the home sides Appreciate it but there are enough riders to compensate for S. Worrall if teams are built this way which gives a supporter a bit of everything rolled into one

Proposal to Restructure British Speedway from 2027 Onwards This is my suggested format to take British Speedway forward from the 2027 season. 1. Team Racing Format One national league consisting of 14 clubs. Each club races every other club home and away once, giving 26 league fixtures per season. Proposed clubs: Belle Vue, Ipswich, King’s Lynn, Leicester, Oxford, Sheffield, Berwick, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Plymouth, Poole, Redcar, Scunthorpe & Workington. The team finishing top of the league after 26 fixtures are crowned “League Champions”. The top 8 teams progress to an end-of-season “KO Cup” competition. 2. Rules & Team Building Teams are built to a maximum of 42.00 points. Rider averages are calculated as follows: Any rider with a current Championship average uses that figure. Any current Premiership rider has their Championship-equivalent average multiplied by 1.5, with a maximum average of 12.00. Any National League rider has their current average divided by 2, with a minimum average of 2.00. Team Composition Each team consists of 7 riders: No. 1 – Heat Leader Only one designated heat leader per team, always riding at No. 1. Nos. 2, 3 & 4 – Second Strings Form the main body of the team alongside the heat leader. No. 5 – Senior Reserve A rider acting as the senior reserve. Nos. 6 & 7 – Junior Reserves Development riders. Must be Commonwealth riders. This structure allows: Each club to include a genuine Grand Prix or top-level rider at No. 1. A strong Championship core across every team. A meaningful development pathway via the junior reserves with a clear link to National League-level riders. 3. Heat Format & Points System Because of the varied rider levels within each team, the traditional format is split into two parts on the programme: Support Card Main Card 3.1 Support Card The Support Card consists of 4 heats: Two heats where each team’s No. 6 & No. 7 race against each other. Two further heats where the Senior Reserve (No. 5) races together with the No. 6 & No. 7 riders. Scoring for the Support Card: Over the 4 heats, the aggregate result determines: 1 league point for a win. 1 league point each for a draw. 0 league points for a loss. So, the Support Card alone can earn a team up to 1 league point from the meeting. 3.2 Main Card The Main Card consists of 9 heats. The Senior Reserve (No. 5): Rides with No. 2 once and No. 4 once, ensuring 4 programmed rides. The Heat Leader (No. 1): Rides once with No. 2 and once with No. 4. Has two rides alongside No. 3. After the 9 Main Card heats: The scores are added up and league points are awarded in the same manner as the Support Card: 1 league point for a win. 1 league point each for a draw. 0 league points for a loss. Again, the Main Card can earn a team up to 1 league point. 3.3 Nominated Heats (Heats 14–16) After both the Support Card and Main Card are complete, there are three nominated heats: Heat 14, Heat 15 & Heat 16. Heat 16 is reserved for the two highest point scorers from the main body (Riders 1–4). Heats 14 & 15 are also nominated heats, with the restriction that: A rider may appear in only one nominated heat. This rule ensures: At least one of the No. 6 or No. 7 junior reserves gets a fourth ride. All other riders get at least five rides across the meeting. Scoring for the Nominated Heats: The combined result of Heats 14–16 is treated as a third card: 1 league point for a win. 1 league point each for a draw. 0 league points for a loss. 3.4 Overall League Points Per Meeting Across the Support Card, Main Card, and Nominated Heats, each team has three separate chances to earn league points. In total, a side can earn up to 3 league points from a single meeting. 4. Rider Movement & Averages Through the Season To maintain structure and development: A Junior Reserve (Nos. 6 & 7) can only progress up to Senior Reserve (No. 5) status. A Senior Reserve (No. 5) can: Move into the main body (Nos. 2–4), or Drop back into a Junior Reserve position, depending on averages. A rider in the main body (Nos. 1–4) can only drop as low as Senior Reserve (No. 5) and not into a Junior Reserve slot. This ensures a clear hierarchy while still allowing progression and reshuffling based on form and averages. 5. Race Nights & Rider Absences All meetings take place on the race night chosen by each club. It is up to each club to build a team suited to their chosen race night. In the event of absent riders, they are covered by: Rider Replacement (R/R), or An approved guest rider. 6. Example Team Line-Ups Below are four illustrative team line-ups of different strengths. These are purely examples for the purposes of demonstrating the system, not predictions of actual signings. Belle Vue Aces Brady Kurtz (Heat Leader) Norick Blödorn (Second String) Ben Cook (Second String) Jake Mulford (Second String) Ben Trigger (Senior Reserve) Jack Smith (Junior Reserve) Arran Butcher (Junior Reserve) Ipswich Witches Jason Doyle (Heat Leader) Jason Edwards (Second String) Adam Ellis (Second String) Jonathan Grahn (Second String) Cameron Heeps (Senior Reserve) Dayle Wood (Junior Reserve) Connor King (Junior Reserve) Glasgow Tigers Dan Bewley (Heat Leader) Ace Pijper (Second String) Chris Harris (Second String) Villads Nagel (Second String) Paul Starke (Senior Reserve) Max Perry (Junior Reserve) Jack Kingston (Junior Reserve) Poole Pirates Jack Holder (Heat Leader) Fraser Bowes (Second String) Richard Lawson (Second String) Tobias Thomsen (Second String) Will Cairns (Senior Reserve) Vinny Ford (Junior Reserve) Kai Ward (Junior Reserve) 7. British Championship Series To compensate for riders no longer doubling up/down between leagues, this proposal includes the creation of a British Championship Series. The aim is to: Provide more meetings for riders. Generate additional income via sponsorship, gate receipts, and streaming revenue. Help offset the financial “loss” from running a single unified league. Format A 6-round championship series held at: Belle Vue Glasgow Ipswich Poole Leicester Oxford The series features 16 riders. There are two Semi-Finals held early in the season at: Workington Sheffield The Top 8 riders from each Semi-Final qualify for the 6-round series. Riders apply to enter the series. It is not primarily aimed at GP-standard riders, but rather the strong domestic core. Example Semi-Final Line-Ups Semi-Final 1 – Workington (example): Brennan, Harris, King, D. Thompson, Howarth, Nicholls, Flint, Kerr, Barker, Mountain, Hume, Rushen, Gilkes, Ablitt, Morley, Scott. Semi-Final 2 – Sheffield (example): Lawson, Wright, Ellis, Cook, Kemp, Rowe, Worrall, Edwards, Jenkins, J. Thompson, Harrison, Bowtell, S. Lambert, Mulford, Starke, Cairns. The top 8 from each Semi-Final progress into the 16-rider British Championship Series. Each season, the host venues for the 6 rounds can be rotated to share the opportunity and exposure around different clubs.

I can't see Chris selling up at Ipswich to then take on Northampton to enable the premiership to run with Ipswich part of that Premiership... doesn't make any sense at all... Could he sell up to be part of sorting Northampton out to run in 2027 then yes as it will take time to get that off the ground at their HOME track I can see a 5 team Premiership happening with Ipswich, Leicester, Kings Lynn, Sheffield and Belle Vue Home & Away Twice giving 16 meetings League "winner" direct into the play off Final, 2nd and 3rd place into a two legged semi final... Potentially they may resurrect the best pairs competiton to be held at each venue to just expand and add a bit of variety The clubs simply can't take a year out, some form of prem will run maybe a bit on a budget such as 5 rider teams with a 35 point team building limit then having 2 x U24 Commonwealth reserves and maybe tweaking the format to have 2 x reserve races then 2 & 6 vs 2 & 7 and the other way round to give the U24s a better chance... All this should be done with a view of then sorting out a one league format for 2027 onwards whether thats regional or not

A suggestion i made on FB based on the prem scratching around for a side... Instead of Northampton riding at Oxford Why not enter a side called British Lions and have Vatcher as team manager? Home track? They can be a touring side and can ride at any venue that can accomodate a Monday/Thursday as a one off If British Speedway is too much of a commitment for Woffy and Lambert, allow them to share the no.1 spot Far from ideal but a fraction better than Northampton at Oxford to save the Prem Or.... Help another nation develope their Speedway? Allow one of the French teams or German sides into the Prem to boost the numbers After all alot of mentions of BSB being an example of how to run a series but they do go to Assen

Woffy likes Foxhall Sheffield most likely will keep the Holders Depends if its more like 38 points for team building

Wouldn't surprise me to see witches line up something like Woffinden, Ellis, Rew, Nicholls, Doyle, Edwards & Jenkins

Think more riders will attempt the championship if possible. 2026 will be a fill your boots before being restricted in 2027