21st century heathen

Thought there might be a few responses to this one. We could be in for a very close finish to the GP season if they keep taking points off each other.

Simply question really. Never has there been an opportunity such as this year for us to have a different winner at each GP. Just wondered what people think. It's possible I think. What price Greg to win in Sweden, Lukas in Czecho, Tomasz in Poland, and Scott in Norway? If not who's going to be the first rider to win two this year? I'd have to go with Nicki as the most likely at the moment. Any thoughts?

Hate it when someone else spots your mistakes before you can change them. Hope I get this post right. With respect to the riders coming in, it does provide a much weakened line up doesn't it. :-(

Hard to see past Jason so... 1)Crump 2)Nicholls 3)Hancock 4)Sullivan Semis Rickardsson Dryml Jonsson Pedersen

So we weaken the teams, and rule out more world class riders. Yeah, good move :? :evil: If Britain is going to remain the place to be in world speedway you can't rule out the big boys before a wheel has turned.

Well done Nicki. Great result for one the best entertainers out there. Scott - very unlucky to be caught out by the track. AJ - very unlucky to be excluded. Having watched the replays over and over I thought Tony was to blame on that one. Crumpie - seems to have had a bit of an attitude adjustment. To me he seemed commited without being overly aggressive. Greg - Another final. Making a bit of a come back after a couple of tough years. 3 out of the last 4 finals for Herbie. Keep it up Grin. Tomasz B and Pepe are impressing me this year. Starting to turn in some good solid performances, and beating riders many wouldn't expect them to. Good experience for the young Brits. Great to see Simon and Chris beat Tomasz G. Disappointed with David. He's not having a great season but he's certainly young enough to come back. I thought the track held up better then the last two years. Perhaps they should let the dirt build up on the outside though. As Ryan showed in last years final if there's dirt out there you can use it.

Stereophonics? They've got a new album out haven't they?

Don't agree on much do we :roll: :clown Your right though. I guess front row's OK but wouldn't want to be up in the Gods.

Ideal 1.Scott 2.Lee 3.Chris 4.David Realistic 1.Greg 2.Ryan 3.Tony 4.Jason Anyone interseted in betting can get 50/1 on Chris Harris winning. Shorter odds than the likes of PK, Todd, and Jason Lyons!!! (William Hill)

First year I sat on the lower which was great. Last year I sat on the middle, which I thought was better. Never been to the upper but I'd imagine it's too steep a viewing angle.

That's fantastic news Anyone know what sort of crowd is expected this year? I've heard 50,000(ish)

You can't miss the stadium because it's right in the middle of the city. One piece of advice though. Going in to the stadium fairly early makes it a damn sight easier to get to your seat. No need to climb over everyone as you would by going in about half hour before it starts. I'd say go in a couple of hours before, and you'll see the place fill up. The noise gets progressively louder, and you can feel the atmos building. Easiest way to park is to follow everyone else, or follow signs to the park and ride. I would suggest at least 2/3 refills for your air horns. Oh, and if you have sensitive ears then some ear defenders wouldn't go amiss. Don't think you'll be wearing your jacket mate. Weather forecast for Sat in Cardiff. Clear blue sky, light SE breeze, sun index 12, p.m. temps reaching 100F for the first time (officially) in the UK. Maybe you could carry a red rose instead?

Yeah, more fashionable than a sun hat! Keep the faith. Remember the sun shines on the righteous.

Yeah but that's not important when it's your team winning, right Steve

If memory serves I'm in M28, so looks like you're the nearest Tina.

Sun glasses - Gonna be a nice day guys. 8)

I know I've quoted myself but I couldn't be bothered to write it again. As for the swearing. Are we really going to start keeping count of who says what, and how many times? :roll: Why is it so bad that Jason and Colin swore, and even Ralf Schumacher, but it was funny when Hans swore? (which I thought it was by the way ) Have the people moaning or handing out admonition not heard swearing before? It's all around you. It's on just about every film rated 15 or above, and most TV shows after 9p.m. You hear it in the street, you hear it at work, the list goes on. At the end of the day, whether you like it or not, it's a part of modern day society in western culture. You can't stop it, and you can't change it. If you're that bothered I suggest you turn off the TV/Radio, switch off your mobile, unplug your PC, burn your books, and curl up in your bed for the duration of what's left of your lives. S41T happens, get over it! (this is not aimed at anyone in particular, and I'm sorry if you think I've gone OTT but that's just my view)

Stop it, you're embarassing me

Well things certainly have got out of hand haven't they. I'll suggest a simple strategy if I may. If you find you are becoming offended by postings on any given thread then stop reading them. If you were offended by something on the TV you'd turn it off or over, right? If you were reading something you found offensive you'd turn the page or put it down, right? Why should this forum be viewed any different? If someone swears at you, rather then to you which is quite different, then ignore the post and let the mods do their job. You don't have to respond to aggresive or personally offensive posts. Ignore it, and continue posting on the original subject if that's what you want to do. If you recieve offensive E-mails then deal with them in the same way you would if you had recieved then from any other source than this forum. If someone has anything constructive to say to me about this post I will give their opinion due respect, read it, and reply. If someone decides to have a go at me for offering an opinion I'll ignore it. (that's not any kind of accusation, just taking my own advice) Life's too short guys.

sandman - while we should all show women, and men, and kids, the respect they deserve it's been a while since we had to worry about weak, fragile women who couldn't take care of themselves. These days women even swear themselves :!: The cameraman in question was NOT a Sky cameraman so all concerned please leave Sky out of it. The cameraman was being very intrusive. Jason had quietly gone aside, where he thought he was out of the limelight, to reflect and gather his thoughts. It's all well and good the cameraman followong him, and even him being shown on TV (I'm sure Jason would expect that) but the cameraman should then have left him alone. He didn't he just stood there pointing the camera at him. This would be disconcerting at the best of times, but Jason was clearly very upset. A little respect, for a man who DOES have feelings, was called for, but was sadly missing. As for the racing I thought both Greg, and Lee, were victims of circumstance in racing incidents. Both, given the fact that someone had to be excluded, were rightly excluded. Very harsh on both of them, but them's the rules. Scott needs to keep his cool in these big matches. I'm sure he can give anyone a run for the money in the world championship as far as talent is concerned, but can he get his head together? Bajerski was good value, as was Lukas ofcause. Ryan looked fast, and was a worthy winner. Especailly coming off gate three. The track could have been so much better which was really annoying. For anyone not there picture the scene. Warm, sunny evening. Hard, smooth track. Well watered, and graded through the afternoon. After a few races the dirt starts to build up from mid to outside of the track. In the advert breaks a dirty great tractor comes out and litterally takes all the dirt off the outside with the blade. :evil: :evil: :evil: This was the reason the inside was the place to be all night. The track was natuarally producing an grippier outside line but it was quickly removed. Bloody annoying!!! At one point the dirt was taken from the outside and placed in a line that Tony took around the first turn. From gate one to mid track on the first turn. You could see the dark line where they put the dirt, and the bare base on the outside. Even the Swedes sat in front of me admitting the track was prepared for Tony, and even they felt it was unfair. Such a shame because we all know the GP riders are capable of putting on a fantastic show for us if the track is right.

Well I've booking a holiday in Stockholm this weekend so that I could take in the GP while I was there. I've now got a 200 mile round trip to fit in. :x Oh and I called that number today and got a message in Swedish that was just looped, so I have no idea what it said. Have a feeling it may have been to call back in office hours. Guess who's not a happy bunny.

Good to see Cradley get a few votes, and I never said a word. '83 - Dream team. With the greatest respect to everyone I think the stat's speak for themselves. Someone said what if speedway wasn't ruled by averages, how long would that team have ruled the roost?

Jo - I think all cartons are OK.

Back to the action if I may. I thought the track was dreadful. There was a blue grooves after about 4 races which tell it's own story. There was very little dirt, and as far as I could see no watering. One thing nobody else has picked up on but what the hell was going on with the tapes :?: :? No rider touched them all night but they had to be mended after virtually every race, very strange :!: Tony was pure class. Pedersen recovered from a bad start when, as he admitted himself, he may have lost the plot a couple of years ago. Dryml and Holta produced the majority if the passing, and were the riders of the night for me. I was a little disappointed with the Brits. Both are better than that, and I'd like to think they can make the semis more often than not. It should have suited Lees fast gating. He could have cleared off if he could have got out the gate. To be fair I suppose it's not Scotts fave kind of track but he needs to find a way around the slick tracks if he's to do well in the GPs. I thought Gollob and Crump would go very close to win it but neither were a genuine threat to Tony. Pepe and Krys C. were both good value so well done to them for their best showing to date. Ryan did OK after the injury. Good points in the bag. Rescued the night really because it would have been a disaster not to get anything. Wiltshire was a disappiontment going out very early. The rest did more or less what you might expect.

Just to confirm my friends and I had the contents of our bags checked last year. All bottles, plastic or glass, had to be dispossed of before entering the stadium. I will be taking Capri-Sun as they are in packets rather than bottles. If you refuse permission for them to check your bag, they can refuse you entry to the stadium. Be aware and think carefully about what you're carrying. Strangely, and thankfully, we were able to take out air horns in. If I were the sort of person to throw something, (which obviously no speedway fan would), then it would travel some distance. I really hope there's no ban on air horns. It's plays such a massive part in creating the right atmos. Hopefullly whoever makes these decissions has taken notice of our good behaviour, and realises we're a friendly bunch.