21st century heathen

If it rains in F1 the drivers slow down from the top speeds of around 200mph to more like 160mph (depending on the track). Sure they would all like to go at full racing speed, but it's not safe to do so. Visibility in the rain during an F1 race is virtualy zero, as 80 hi-tech tyres throw thousands of gallons of water into the air quite apart from the rain falling. The speeds are frightening with almost no vision. If the track (speedway) is not safe to ride at 70-80mph because of rain, then the riders have to adapt to that like riders have done in the past. Turn the throttle the other way and ride at 60-70mph. Simple as really, but they seem increasing less prepared to even try. The meeting could have gone ahead with those prepared to give it a go, and the others could just bu££er off.

Perhaps the meeting could have been delayed for an hour, work done on the track, and then the meeting run? Sky could have recorded the meeting rather than showing it live. Then the next time a meeting is called off they'd have had something to show. Thoughts?

Re Crump - I'll repeat what I said on the other thread. When he didn't know he was on camera, walking across the centre green, he was clearly refusing to ride. When he knew the camera was on him, in the riders/ref 'meeting', he was up for it clapping his hands, come on, lets go, blah blah. There were two of him on show tonight, as there were two Scott Nicholls on show the other night at Swindon.

For his actions that night, yes. I've already said the same thing to one person on the other thread Kev. They were very close, Hans picked up a little extra drive, made slight contact with David, David fell. Thankfully he wasn't hurt but it was nothing more than a racing incident that could have happened on any track, in any conditions, to any rider. As for the risks in my job. I can't even begin to tell you the number of paper cuts I've had over the years. I've got to go back and risk more of the same on Wednesday though.

So that's forst TRick and now Crump that's p!$$£d of the British fans. How about deadly silence or boos at the British GP? At least they, and anyone watching, will realise they've burned their bridges.

Works in theory Steve. I'll bet you this weeks forum pound that Steve won't get a single reply from one of the ELRC riders though.

Anybody know why the main thread was locked and this one left open?

The official stats given by the MetO show what I have said to be true. They use a 30 year average, 1971-2000. In that time June is a fraction wetter than April. April is prone to heavy showers at the sun becomes stronger, and begins to warm the land after the winter months. Feel free to check the MetO stat fopr yourself. As ever I'm no expert, I just take notice of weather forecasts and stats etc... Back OT

I was referring to a particular post stating that April was the wettest month of the year when in fact it is the second driest. Dec and Jan have close to double the rainfall on average. Sky/JG were the ones who seemed happy for a delay to the match in order that it would go ahead in the end. He also said quite clearly that they were staying out of it.

Forgot to say that Sky did not have a break after six heats. They had a break after 4. It was the riders holding up the match not Sky.

There's some crap posted on here about the weather with no source to back it up. April is the joint second driest month of the year in the U.K. May is a little drier, and June a little wetter. There is very little difference between the months of April and July (incl.) Source - MetO

I would love to ID the person that posted this.

That was a quick change of heart.

And clearly no bias in the post by Sian.

How many are or have been? That might be a little higher.

Your right. That's the only one we know will be on. Unless it cuts up and they refuse to ride of course.

Two big show case events for the neutral to turn on to in a week, and speedway does nothing whatsoever to encourage them to switch on again or to get up and go to a local track. I maintain my point that most of todays riders won't ride if they can't go full throttle. If it's not safe to go full throttle then make use of the fact that it will twist two ways.

That's too far, but I get your general point. Oh, and yes we could have a bit of rain here tomorrow.

Well that's something. Who's going to pay for people's fuel? It's a long journey for most people outside the immediate area. Will they offer free food and drink? No of course not, so they'll cash in there. How many of the original line-up will be there? Stop trying to cause an argument where there isn't one. Hans just picked up slightly, tried to keep the bike away from David but made slight contact. He was rightly excluded. Nothing more to it than that.

With all due respect you say you're not watching so how can you argue with my opinion? Let's see how many of us come on here and say we've seen speedway go ahead in much worse conditions. As RR said the riders weren't getting into any trouble. They were at racing speed. Mark had gone from last to 2nd. There was no surface water lying on the track. I could go on. That was when he knew he was on camera. When he didn't know the camers was on him, when he was walking across the centre green, he was clearly refusing to ride.

As stated earlier - 6 heats run so no refund for the fans. Big shock. Bet the riders will pick up their pay cheques, say thank you very much and move on to the next one. It all comes down to one thing. The vast majority of todays riders simply refuse to adapt to conditions. If the track is not perfect, and they can't go full throttle, they just say the track is dangerous and as today they refuse to ride.

I take it back. The ref should have put them on 2 mins, and then excluded all four for not getting out there.

The riders refusing to go out.

Nice one ref. Very strong with a camera on your shoulder, and a mic in your face. Take control and show them who's boss. Get on with it!!!

Grumpy is the ring leader, and he clearly is not going to race on.