21st century heathen

I'm with SCB on this one. You have to take a 'horses for course' approach. So let's look at the riders in question. Edward - I've never seen him do anything of note at Coventry, and I've been going every week for the last 3 years. Having a fantastic season and I'd name him in the 1-5 just about anywhere...except Brandon. I hope he and Middlo prove me wrong. Simon - Traditionally rides Brandon very well indeed. However, for the last year or so his ability to pass has gone AWOL. He only ever does well in the early heats at Brandon now. He can beat Nicholls in heat one, but goes missing later in the meeting as it slickens off. Having had a few knocks this season he is a huge risk. Olly - Has been excellent value at Brandon for over a year now. Dropped to reserve due to a slightly dodgy start with 3 big knocks in quick succession, along with the flying start that Morten made to the season. Has shaken off the knocks now, and is one of the few Brits that can pop out the start. No doubt he'd get in everyone's way and pick up points for us. David - Another that is having a cracking season. I certainly wouldn't name him just about anywhere, as I would with Ed. However, David not only has had a good score at Brandon this season but he has a good career record at Brandon. He's always been a threat there, or at least generally for a number of years (don't need some sado finding a crap score). Without working out the stats exactly I'm sure that Olly and David have a better record at Brandon, with the current knocks and poor form counting heavily against Simon. I sincerely hope I'm wrong about Ed, and I'll support him as much as I will any other Brit that wears the Union Flag and gives his all. The same could be said for Lee. He's not got a great away record, nor has he for a while. He's a very capable rider, and there's no reason that he can't turn it on at Brandon. It's almost time to dust off the British avatar. C'mon boys, do us proud.

I don't have time to read through this thread, so it's just a quickie from me. Chris was nothing short of a sensation on Saturday. Congratulations Chris. It'll force you into the spotlight perhaps a little more than you would like though. Continue to let it all wash over you like water off a ducks back, and you'll be fine. More of the same in future please.

Can't believe she was bothered mate. I do it every week at Brandon, and she loves the attention. There were quite a number there, but from several clubs. Cradley Coventry Ipswich Exeter Peterborough Swindon Reading Edinburgh Oxford (Well...ish. Depends what mood SB is in. His parents weren't far away though) All represented in our little group at one stage or another. Now someone tell me the ones I've missed out on that list. Worse things she could have dangled over the bar. Take a sleeping bag next year. I'm sure you can just crash on someones floor.

I think it is a typo. What TNT has failed to mention is that we did win the one-leg final at their place in '99. The '96 Trophy was a farce as the top 4 riders refused to ride with 'solid block' tyres (remember that fiasco?! ), so that doesn't really count. The last proper Dudley/Wolves Trophy was in '95, and guess what? We won that one, in a winning streak that went back to a one point aggregate win that Wolves scraped in '89. Face it Wolves fans...we rock...you suck...end of!!

Bl00dy he!! mate. How did you manage that? Did you have £500 on Gollob to win or something?!! I forgot to mention that I also met Shortoi for the first time. Sorry. Did I forget anyone else?

Why raise something if you don't think it was an issue? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for the link iris. For those that didn't follow the link, the Germans refer to Chris Harris as Bomber Harris in their link to the GP results.

You two (and Sandie) dragged the good name of the forum ladies into the gutter this weekend. Shocking behaviour from all three of you, and when the rest of us were on such good behaviour as well. *tuts and shakes head disapprovingly* I've got a few new names to add to my 'member met list'. Shazzy (the 'orgasm' tee-shirt is class ) MD Pammie (the first forum member to get p!$$ed this weekend ) General Melchitt Robyn1972 Pinny And I'm told it's entirely possible that I spoke to... King Jamie Nevs without knowing who they were. Off to Monmore in a minute, but you'll all be added soon.

I doubt it. There's a big difference between the RAF and what Hitler tried/partially succeeded to do/in doing. I really don't see why we should be getting in to this after such a fantastic weekend for British Speedway.

He made a mistake. It's commonplace with the human species.

It was daft to climb over the netting. It's hardly the stewards fault. I have no doubt they were under strict instruction to keep fans off it.

If this is all you've got Steve perhaps it's time for you to hang up the keyboard?

Cheers. If you don't see me it's because I was turned away at the gate for not having a ticket. That's about the cost I was expecting. I'll be in Cardiff.

Get a grip!! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'll be there. Two questions though. 1) I assume I can buy tickets on the gate. Correct or not? 2) How much is it?

No contest.

Cradley won it a massive 20 times (a monumental effort) and Wolves could only muster 13 wins (a poor return). If you're really interested head over to the Cradley website. Go to the 'features' link on the left, and then go to the Dudley/Wolves Trophy link. The final aggregate score for every season it took place can be found there.

Nice to read that fans still have fond memories of visiting Dudley Wood. As for our return...well fingers crossed. Latest news here and here.

I can't believe I forgot to post here. Congrats to Chris on his first win. Clearly the rider of the night, and fully deserved on this seasons performances. Congrats to David on his rostrum place and upcoming trip to Cardiff. Again fully deserved. No problem with Scott being very unhappy. He went there to win it, and failed. It's nice to see that the meeting really meant something to him. Far from just a test session, he really wanted badly. Any other rider would've been happy to get on the rostrum. Scott saw it as failure. It's nice to see that he has that drive to be the best he can be. If he can get these engines working then the rest of the GP boys can watch out. There's a lot of frustration building. Congrats to Ed on a very good performance. Clearly the best he's ever ridden at Monmore, and what a time to do it. Very much worth his place on the final, and a creditable ride despite being edged out by the top 3. Other noteable performances by Danny (again the best he's ever gone around Monmore), Olly (unlucky in the first turn a couple of times and also a race stopped while he was leading), and Lewis (could have made the race off but for the fall). Chris could've crept in as well if not for the engine/chain failure. The biggest disappointment was Steady. IMO (and it won't be popular in some quarters) he desperately needs to get away from BV, and get back to the old Steady before his career nose dives.

Me too. I thought it was the best thing Sam has ever said. Made me laugh out loud. Class. ------------------------ I didn't know he'd been having a problem either.

Well done indeed. It turned out to be a good nights work after a dodgy start. He certainly had a bit of luck in my opinion. He should have been excluded in the semi. Why? He took it very well all things considered.

R.I.P.

Very sad to read this update. It's not really the place to start the debate again, but what price an air fence? Perhaps it's time to look at the helmets the guys use as well. (although I have no idea whether it would've helped in this incident)

Good shout. It would have been a nice show of support for the returning club to get a bug meeting. Had it been planned from the start it could have been scheduled for the Wednesday rather than the Thursday though. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Those that find it hard to get to one or the other have an opinion accordingly. I can understand that. Personally I think both are good tracks, and the chances of me going to either are slim. I don't have any particular opinion of either as a club, be it good or bad. My only feeling is that speedway needs an air fence whenever possible, at any level. If this is the only change that allows an air fence to be used then so be it. The bottom line is rider safety. However, a proper explanation of why the original agreement was made and why it's a late change should be forthcoming. It's about time that fans were treated as an integral part of the sport. We are sick of being fobbed off.

Thanks for the translation Anders. My very best wishes for a full recovery go out to Olsson.

Very sad to hear of another crash resulting in serious injury. Thanks for letting us know. If anyone can give us the gist of what it says on those links we'd (sure I can speak for everyone) appreciate it.

He'll get more than 1. If I'm wrong I'll happily admit it. I said earlier in the thread that he may get done for pace. I'll stick with that, and see what happens.