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The proposed team with King and Worrall in was not that bad even with Huckenbeck needing rr. It may have been as strong as previously, so I don't accept that it was about fielding a weak team. I think JC has suggested some other deeper problems that are more likely to be at the root of the problem. And for those urging fans to be true to their club - would you go on eating at a restaurant where the top chef has been replaced with a two Str MacDonald's trainee? We have been cheated over the past two years and treated as being worthless to Buster. Loyalty and respect goes two ways. I expect that if there was a new promotion, fans would give them a try but not this repeated very poor VFM sporting entertainment. Will we never be hearing from Rob Lyon re his position at KLS?

Elf & Safety - always a winner. Fans of the Stars at KLS always ( in recent years ) the Losers. I too think nah there is a lot more hidden away for Reasons Not To be Cheerful.

I sincerely agree with what you have said about Holder's life situation but he chose to carry on regardless and sign for another UK club, on a good deal ( by UK standards ) so he cannot expect much overall sympathy when he goes on strike. Maybe he should end his season ( in the UK ) now, other than the GP. But if he doesn't get back to Poole next year for whatever reason, where does that leave him then. Anyway it would likely be for him and Doyle - Poland and Sweden, so perhaps it hardly matters.

KK is and always has been a gamble for any promoter to sign in the UK.

Now with this weeks call off it's crazy, dejected fans in Oh No mode.- what Buster should have done is, last Friday shouted it far and wide "it's £10 for all adults ( inc concessions ) and £5 for the others - kids free. And here is your free race card". for the Rye House meeting and THAT would have been some kind of positive gesture to fans. I think they would have responded positively to that and turned up in droves. This leaves the real outcome hanging over an abyss. IF there is no thunderstorm or heavy rain before 10 pm we all know for sure that it was " postponed" for other reasons!

You are right. But until a group have the balls to challenge it Poland will go on imposing their will on top level speedway. I think it is likely to be Poland and one other country in 2018. Will that sting some of the GP boys into action or will they be content with £1,000 point in Poland and £500 a point (?) in Sweden? No. But Batchelor's situation is different because someone signed him off as injured ( track doctor, referee?) but Lambert and Huckenbeck should be fined ( not banned )for being the first to "strike". Of course Batchelor too but it is hard to prove the case against him.

It is not a matter of wether it is "right" or not. They have the power and wealth in Poland to do as they wish. Riders fall over themselves for that "pot of gold" - we all would if we could. Let's enjoy speedway with riders who are happy to be riding here, whatever level that ends up as. Goodbye GP riders and those with Polish contracts. We can watch them on TV if we really miss them.

Speedy69 wrote " Presumably you mean well organised speedway in the UK where integrity is high and the spectators are put first?" ​That outcome Is getting to be an unrealistic dream and the reality a nightmare. It certainly is at KLS. The best we can hope for is that a new promoter takes over the rights ( not a shadow one ) and the Stars run at Championship level in 2018 - if they run at all. Many fans now have zero belief in Busters efforts regardless of how long he claims to put in on the track. The results of those hours in terms of rider and fans satisfaction is pretty low and it is unlikely to be easily restored.

In my opinion the riders were mostly at fault for going on strike in the way they did. Forcing the ref to come down seems wrong and the first heat times were very fast ( the fastest this year ). I love watching Robert Lambert who is a great rider with the potential to go much further but not by behaving in this way and being a major part of the strike. You can't do that except in exceptional circumstances and I don't believe the track last Thursday was exceptionally bad, nor affected by the light rain. Some Riders did not give a fig for the supporters and can't complain if the crowd dwindles further. But Yes, Buster should really think about standing down as Chairman of the BSPA because he is unable to make sure that his own track and team is in full working order. A very poor example. And the co-promoters are in name only.

If Buster gets this postponement V Rye House wrong and the evening turns out fine, he will have failed Stars fans again. And if he believes that the Poole debacle is "behind us" he should consider his position as Chairman of the BSPA and think about the right time to step down, His leadership rating is very poor.

The two forecasts I have looked at say that any storms will be later in the evening. I'll be monitoring the weather carefully and I live not far away from the track. Hmmm. I hope that Buster has got this one right with a postponement. If he now continues wit the Great Silence he is more out of touch than I ever believed. If he thinks that the comment "it's behind us now" fixes everything then he is delusional about his shrinking fanbase. That's me finished with the Stars after watching them very year they have been based in KL ( and before that in Norwich )

Me too! A very long time since a UK speedway match ( at King's Lynn ) excited me or showed me that sometimes ( somewhere else ) the excitement I look for in n speedway IS still there.

Why would any major sponsor decide to back speedway or the BSPA? They would surely have taken a long hard look at the sport and unless the would be sponsor is led by an existing fan, there cannot be much "meat " in the idea. Except of course IF there is a continuation of the BT coverage and that might entice someone if the viewer numbers warrant it. Can't see it myself.

No Buster is not very interested in communicating with fans because they will likely disagree with him and that is not on is it? No it would not survive in the real world. Only in the fantasy world of speedway in the 21st century. False Dawn wrote " Now I think about it, has any rider involved tweated or publicised their side of this." Robert Lambert has and he said " what do we have to do to get a decent track" You can see where he stands on the matter.

Oh I do hope that that is true! Club will announce it at 7.28 pm no doubt.

Gresham said " 2. Riders who rode Club speedway, would be provided with an engine at each meeting. These Engines would be sealed and owned by the BSPA/Clubs. The riders would provide their own rolling chassis and draw lots for the engines at each meeting. Riders would be paid a wage by the Club, and only ride for one Club in this country. If they have another job or ride abroad, then that can't interfere with Club speedway. Here comes first. Take it or leave it. 3. A Team average is set for the whole season. Riders can only be replaced with riders of the same average to when they leave. EG if said rider starts with an average of 9.00 and drops to 7.00. He can only be replaced by a rider on a 7.00 average. To stop fixing of averages." I am fully behind this dream scenario! No more doubling up, one big league. I will add handicap racing. Something along these lines is essential and will likely be the way that club speedway turns into within 5 years.

And there was a deluge of monsoon like rain from around 5am ( to 6 am ) in KL. I am three miles from the stadium. The rest of the day is set fair - hot even - but wether Buster can do the track to the satisfaction of the home riders, who knows? There will be a sun delay if the forecast is correct and if the match is on.

I do think that the majority of fans no longer want Chris Holder riding for the club. I feel that way myself. Public flogging may be a tad too far but a kick up the backside as he is shown the door may be well deserved. As others have said, a great disappointment as a rider and as a man ( in terms of his moral compass regarding his career choice ).

The same lack of though from the management made Robert the Stars Captain. A wonderful speedway rider but not yet mature enough to do much in a positive way as Captain. Much too soon unless it was just for coin tossing. Robert needs to concentrate on his next career step as a rider because his World Cup performance showed that the GP is a distant dream as yet.

I have to agree with Starboy118 who said " The problem is that there is a leader/owner/main man who is not able to see the bigger picture. He is incapable of delegating. Should he really be concentrating on driving the tractor and fixing the track when someone who knows what they are doing should be handling this side of things? He surely should be overseeing the whole show, ensuring that contact with the lifeblood (the supporters) is maintained and that things are running smoothly. He takes his eye off the ball and gets involved in things that others could be doing. I'm not sure why I'm writing this because I threw in the towel a long while ago, sick to death with the absence of any sort of entertainment and the contempt shown to supporters. No more!" There was no other Promoter / Club Owner / Manager ( with authority ) to step in last Thursday. Will we ever hear from Rob Lyon about what his involvement at KLS really involves. It was leaderless / rudderless last week and that is a problem that looks no different this week ( or ever, without re-structuring within KLS ). How can Buster say " it will never, ever happen again " - he could not stop a rider strike from developing last week and never can? Buster sees the need to diversify his business interests and mushroom farming can be quite profitable. A good friend tells me I need to laugh about it all because taking it seriously is pointless. The only action fans can take is to go or NOT go to further matches. With the weather problems of today the Rye House match looks as if track problems will affect it again and it could easily be deja vu tonight. Buster's promise to never let it happen again may be tested immediately.

Probably injury as he fell in the SEC. It's not in their DNA ( Did Not Answer )

We have heard so much about his off track problems ( not that we know what they are , nor have any right to do so ) but I was a fan of his exciting racing style - which we can still see glimpses of - but he seems a troubled man ( viewing from the outside ). Continuing to ride after serious injuries is every rider's personal decision but we as supporters do have a right to expect his best efforts when he is racing, regardless of his problems of the moment. I began to lose interest in him when he had his outburst at the start of the season about how much he's paid in Poland ( and not paid here ). What he did last week is not going to help in rebuilding the sport or attracting new fans. If he does not race again for KL, then he has only himself to blame. Just as well he did not, as like Schlein we might well have had an Aussie-ish 1 - 2 - 3 at the British Final if Batchelor had also done the same. All very strange. Oh Yes, let's hear from him. I am pleased if he is going to give his side of the story.

A big part in all of this is that in truth Dale Allit and Rob Lyon have no real authority to demand either of the above. The power at KLS still comes from the owner, why else did Rob Lyon duck the issue?

We have been told that Holder does need a UK club for visa purposes but he already has one lasting at least until the end of the season and i don't think they would be rescinded due to his 28 day ban. Interesting if it was. Hopefully he is well aware of the visa conditions.

Good one and would have made us laugh even in the Jokes thread! No one wants to wear the Big Blazer and front the BSPA that's for sure. Why would they?