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Of course there must be some sort of refund IF the fixture V Rye House is raced! We all have ticket stubs so at least £5 / £8 should be reduced when next you go? Or a straight admission?

I hope they do attract a Massive Sponsor and it is called the Doo Doo League ( or Top Poop Toilet Tissue League ) to reflect the mess speedway is in, in the UK. Can't wait for these two big articles in the SS. Some kind of Revelations?

Much as I love to watch Robert Lambert race it would be better to have a guest for both meetings rather than no RL in the 2nd one. All very odd but it is GB speedway of course. Why not have Harris guesting in the Poole match and Andersen guesting in the 2nd match? Much more fun all round and if Robert is truly far from fit a better prospect for the last match of the season ( no need for a relegation battle as it will never happen ) ( that Up & Down movement ).

I can see that a 3rd title is well within reach for Woffy. Hurray !!! But I am well aware that it would not meet with universal approval! and that 2013 / 2015 / 2017 sequence sounds good!

But if Michael Lee and Ove Fundin had been riding along side Robert Lambert it might have been a draw.

I thought that ALL speedway related media was directly controlled by Nigel Pearson ( as it is at King's Lynn ). Just kidding but all that confusion must be someone's fault.

I have still attended this season but my patience in the KLS promotion has been sorely tried since the Stars V Poole "Holdergate" meeting and several unnecessary call offs as well as the recent Wolves " seeing double " debate. I will be going to the final relegation battle V Poole and V Rye House but my heart is not much in it this season. Unless there is significant improvement in how things are run at King's Lynn ( and in the sport in general ) I am unlikely to return next season. But having an opinion about the sport I have followed for over 60 years does not make me a "speedway complainer" - merely not just a mug.

Could be indeed - just as long as they are not heavily pushing that they are " on the right path" and " it will all work out well" and if supporters really want speedway " they must turn up to support their local team and bring a friend". Most of us have grasped that idea already.

Don't worry I am sure ( well nearly sure ) that someone will be riding in that position.

If there is to be a final match at the AFA - Stars V team X - as a relegation battle it would make sense to make it a £10 meeting hoping to get a decent crowd for the send off wouldn't it?

GRW 123 wrote " At Kings Lynn, the venue has so much going for it, but the biggest problem appears to be Buster persona.... This Club was built up to be respected and appreciated by all, Them days are long gone... These past few weeks, we have descended into a club in total turmoil ....... Surely that cant be allow to continue.," Unless those who surround Buster can encourage him to listen to fans concerns, perhaps in a series of meetings or a new style of supporters club, I can't see a future for the club under Buster's sole control. Of course as the owner he can do as he chooses but KLS will wither and finally flounder unless better ways of running the club are embarked on. It may be that he no longer values the Stars speedway team as being a viable part of the business at the AFA. Changing the name of the 2018 "top" league will not turn around the fortunes of KLS nor of the sport in general.

As far as I am aware not one of the current KLS team is riding solely for points money. A match fee guarantee is in place so that a rider failing to score will not fail to earn. I would like to hear from fans of other teams as to what they know exists generally in the UK re pay rates.

Plenty of volunteers for that task and if Buster posts it ( sorry Facebooks it, now he is using the media powerfully ) it would be his finest act as Chair of the BSPA. But who will pick up the poisoned chalice after Buster?

mikebv wrote" I truly now believe that (in this Country) the Promoters have simply 'given up', and accepted that years and years of leaderless, no direction, make it up as you go along, decision making has rendered the Sport 'beyond repair' and now just 'wing it' the best they can on a daily basis to (hopefully with a good wind) complete a ridiculously disjointed fixture list" ​And that is how I also see it and is why I am about to walk away from the sport live in the stadium and settle for watching it much more cheaply ( not quite free ) live at home on TV. The GP is still truly competitive and well worth watching but the Premier League matches are 75% dross and FTG "races". The promoters will continue to "wing it" until there is no-on left on the terraces to watch it.

Always works a treat!

I think that this will likely be the case. If the rumours of the New, new league structure of 12 teams in the top level Scooby Doo Doo league are correct for 2018 I can't see this working out either. Only if they dispense with the half a dozen overpaid GP level riders would it have half a chance. Even then another renamed "super league" will do nothing to attract new fans in itself.

You can't make customers spend their money on Tesco ready made meals if they prefer to buy or grow the ingredients to cook their own. Speedway clubs need to sell what the supporters want to buy.

Can't believe it's off already!

Not a chance! The only people who are inconvenienced are the fans and we know for sure that they don't matter very much to the BSPA. And now we get the "please get behind us, in our relegation fight" plea from Buster. One big league in 2018 will anyway make relegation / promotion pointless. Fingers crossed.

What a pity I was intending to go on Thursday, as it's the last meeting of the season at the AFA ( Is it now ?) but a double header even against different teams is not my cup of tea. Runs on too late for me.

HAWK 127 wrote " I really hope that someone somewhere can get through to the chumps at the BSPA and perhaps it might take a petition from supporters and then they might think a bit more about one of the streams of income which they gladly take every meeting without a second thought when it comes to entertainment or value for money they give back in return." ​There is no doubt that almost every fan who still loves speedway ( even those who are more and more disillusioned like myself ) agree with this and hope that it can achieved but history tells us differently It also tells us that it is a wealthy man's vanity project in some cases, who keep some clubs alive but the sport cannot continue long, depending only on the largesse of half a dozen people. The Rye House three home meetings in a week says a lot about speedway insanity! I know that that new promotion is eager to get in the play offs but the fixture compiler must be an AI robot ( or would that do a better job?)

It is not so much part time riders that are required for this to work but for riders who accept that they are paid less for riding. As ever there is no transparency in speedway so we don't know what an average deal looks like But from what I have been told riders are overpaid now in terms of guarantees / vans / local sponsors ( bungs ) etc and should be paid on a results basis only. If that turns our to mean the loss of many that don't want to ride for the £s on offer, then that would be as valid a reason for the demise of the sport as the huge decrease in supporters looks like being. Either way the sport cannot go on as it is - or so we are led to believe?

"Another double header"? - I genuinely believe that it will not be because they have listened to the fans. They never have, they never do and only when there are no fans left to listen to will they be mightily surprised by the silence. It is this BSPA trait over the last 20 years or so that has led to the state in which speedway finds itself now. Much more likely!

What interests fans most of all is close, exciting racing with at least the possibility of passing ( especially if the rider being chased makes a forced error ) but with current engines on tracks as mostly prepared now in the UK, 75% of "races" are processions ( and boring ). It just has just about pushed me into not watching after more than 60 years of being an avid fan. And it is not because of poor health ( in my case ). It's just that 3 out of 4 races have little interest in them regardless of what machine, prepared by which tuner they are riding. The only way to attract a new generation of keen supporters is to make sure that 75% or races are speedway "racing". I am talking about UK league racing here and not the GP or international events when riders do 'got at it" more seriously. Perhaps paid for points only and no match guarantees?

That's where we are now, looking for a more viable, cost effective way to produce as good or better racing - NOT at the very top level of the GP because their motivation is quite different. We must have more entertaining, better quality, close racing in the bread and butter league racing in the UK. Without that the interest of those prepared to pay out for admission to matches will decline further.