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GRW 123 wrote " Probably the next time Buster cancels a meeting on a whim, he'll remember the consequences of the alternatives. " That is the problem - Buster seems incapable of remembering such things, or even of thinking about who they affect ( the fans ) other than himself. I agree that Trees does a good job but it is peeing in the wind as they say. Unless Buster takes on someone who can forge a good communicative bridge with the fans and a co-promoter who DOES recognise the consequences of cancelling on a whim, and is prepared to argue the point, nothing will improve for KLS. Only when he is standing there with 200 fans and his staff of "yes Boss" people, will it come home to him that his way was not the best way after all. The speedway is no longer his main income stream and he can therefore continue to harden his resolve about how speedway should be run, both at King's Lynn at in the UK.

Me Too Sid - others may say it is because we are growing old and may be also less interested in other things. I don't think it is as simple as that because I too have been watching man and boy since the early 1950s. With serious interest when Ove Fundin arrived at Norwich. I am not gaga and am very interested in other things and other sports. I live only three miles from the KL track and someone picks me up and takes me there so there are no practical difficulties about getting there. Buster even has a disabled section where I can sit on the bench ( with my own cushion ). So it is the action I see on track which leaves me very disillusioned. Of the 15 heats there are very rarely more than four with any excitement over passing or possible passing. 75% are tapes to flag processions - dull as ditchwater or worse. Too many rules that do nothing to spice up the interest in my brain and entice me to remain in the habit of going. Gardening at the gate is longer than the race - I kid you not! Doubling up - ah well don't get me started on that! r/r or guests all too often. So 4 minutes of thrills for my time and money is inadequate - Thumbs Down for me. Oddly I have NOT fallen out of love with the sport as I am eager for the next GP where I see much more ferocious determination in the racing ( of course for higher rewards ) and only last night I watched a LIVE Swedish match and a Polish League match which provided more ( a higher % ) of exciting races for me to enjoy. The BSPA have got it all wrong because as a die hard fan like me being turned off, they are unlikely to attract new fans who require more VFM in what leisure activity they pay for.

I will go to the RH match and if there is no significant reduction I will take the matter to the County Court. Fans who paid for the double header have been defrauded. Man Up Buster and do the "right' thing if you still know what that is. There should be NO charge for those with that ticket and Poole fans who request a refund should get one. As the head of the BSPA, are they all to be tarred with the same brush as you of being crooked?

Why no announcement of the use of the re-admission ticket for the RH match? Straight in on your rain-off ticket or how much is to be knocked off? And can Poole fans apply for a refund? The announcement of the new date should have included these things.

Should be cause for Great Concern! But as the BSPA is a "closed shop" nothing can be done about it. I hope there is a survival movement within the BSPA who will ask Buster to step down as Chairman. And I feel exactly the same as you semion.

It hardly matters wether we get rid of D/U or Guests because IF whatever the BSPA decide on and put before us, is less and less acceptable to the majority of fans out there ( as opposed to on here ) the fanbase will go on shrinking. How many tracks can cope with fewer and fewer through the turnstiles?

Let's be honest, even if they put on the match V Rye House, how many people will turn out for it? Not many I bet. You only have to look at the low turnout at the double header last week. AND if nothing changes as to how KLS is run over the winter, how many will turn out for "more of the same" next year. I won't, because this season was abysmal with very few, if any positives.

Now that's great idea - fans doubling up! If the BSPA can somehow persuade BT to cough up money for televising speedway that money could be used for this re-juvenation scheme. 500 fans could be bussed to away matches with free travel and half price admission. A kind of pyramid income scheme for promoters that also makes the terrace look good to possible new fans. It is no more crazy than having used up all the Sky money for 15 years to pay over the top for the world's best riders to stay on in the UK.

There is no question of the Bees returning to Brandon in 2018. We must all learn to savour the memories of the great racing there in the past.

Sadly some people say they can't wait for the season to be over, but the problem is not that simple because of the constant mis-management displayed by Buster and his "You're right boss" backup team. If this continues into next season KLS will fail as a business and as a speedway team with a long history. Critics of Buster do not wan the club to fold they only want things to be run in a credible manner.

If it's not on, how will we be able to use our re-admission tickets from last week? Will there be a cheque in the post?

Far too early to say if X, Y or Z are definitely running - or not. Until the Powers That Be unveil their master plan for the revival of the sport in the UK ( again ) very, very few promoters can say definitely - "we are running in 2018". They have no idea yet, of what they might be putting a team together for or in what kind of league.

One day they will understand ( they being riders who feel the same as Worrall ) take what is on offer or don't ride at all. Those who believe that this not enough should sell their bikes now because it may not be next year, but within two or three years, speedway in the UK will look very different to now. It may not be such a good offer as one big league.

JFF time I suppose. Tonight's re-jigged team at Wolves is a good example of Just Fulfilling Fixture time. Thankfully BT are not covering it and thats an escape for the Stars management. It sounds as if a text was sent out to any available rider who fancied a spin. Perhaps the reality was that was the only reasonably priced option. The most important person at the BSPA is not the Chairman but the "crack paperer" ( of course it could be same person! )

No point in looking too carefully at what 2018 might bring until the BSPA present their seemingly annual re-structuring plan. As the league structure, team strengths, team building averages, pay rates and d/u & guests are all up in the air, until much later there is not much to look forward to that might improve the fortunes of KLS. Even the very existence of the Stars seems to be hanging in the balance.

Sadly the faddy duddies continue to run the sport and their head in the sand approach to what fans want, need and expect will take more than even someone as up to date and competent as jchapman to turn it around or make significant progress.

But of course it is well known that the stock car operation is money spinner for Buster. Why worry if the speedway supports falls away because he can still use the excellent venue as an income stream. Not much incentive to throw good money after bad on the speedway side of things. Crying out for a new promotion to run the speedway team.

It's almost certainly going to happen and there will be casualties as some clubs drop down to the NL level, leaving the 12 (?) in the top league. As customers we have no choice, as someone else pointed out, other than to go to matches or not. Same is likely to be the case if Buster Chapman get's his way over guests ( almost anywhere and everywhy ) . We can only "buy" what the BSPA chooses to offer to us - or not.

Even though it is likely to be the final meeting of the season V RH. I will be surprised is there is much of a crowd turnout for it. Equally so, the lost confidence of many fans this season, will mean even if there were to be relegation match after that, I don't think that would tempt many to the terraces, following such a debacle of a season. KLS has truly lost it's way.

Robert Lambert is simply the best we have now and it will take a huge effort for any of the other young Lions ( other than Bewley ) to catch up with him. Give the young man the credit he deserves.

The future is very bleak for KLS because Buster IS still running things HIS way and those around, him who choose to stay involved are "Yes Buster, No Buster, Three Bags Full Buster", so new ideas are given short shrift ( that's the way it looks from the outside ). What looks even more bleak was that the crowd for Thurs night's double header was well down even when it included Poole & Rye House fans. Buster is very out of touch with the fans he continually exhorts to turn up. It can only end in tears.

Run UK speedway with the riders who want to race here when we choose to put on meetings. Those handful of international top riders are too expensive for the UK anyway and new "top" riders will emerge from those who we can afford. Doyle should stick to Poland, Sweden and the GP's and I don't blame him for doing that.

There might well be promotion & relegation matches held this season ( for money spinning reasons ) but I feel sure that no club will go down and no club will go up because the New , New League structure will make it redundant. Glasgow and Sheffield may well go "up" but KL or Leicester will not go down.

Oops, I should have posted this here and not elsewhere. Regarding a well run crisply played out match - as last night was. But that is how it should be and illustrated perfectly that if there are no injury delays a match can be completed within 90 mins ( with no pointless interval ) and it is more interesting and exciting presented in that way ( in my opinion ). So let's have something more like that in future instead of long drawn out borefests. Had there been an interval then the first match would likely not have been completed. Like This Quote MultiQuote Hide Edit

But that is how it should be and illustrated perfectly that if there are no injury delays a match can be completed within 90 mins ( with no pointless interval ) and it is more interesting and exciting presented in that way ( in my opinion ). So let's have something more like that in future instead of long drawn out borefests. Had there been an interval then the first match would likely not have been completed.