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False dawn wrote " I'm beginning to wonder if anyone "up there" has an ounce of sense. We have the makings of a good sport in this country, still. " ​I echo that but the vital word is "still" because if the BSPA don't get it right for 2018, I honestly doubt if we will continue to have the makings of a good sport in the UK for many years beyond then.

Yes, hopefully but with an earlier start time to enable travelling fans to attend more easily and fill the stadium. BSPA please take note.

I was going to say that " you couldn't make it up" - but there is no need to as it seems to be unravelling before our very eyes.

A very different Buster then. He has become so much more set in his ways and his ultra stubbornness ( or self belief as you prefer ) has led to a lot of fans becoming disillusioned about how KLS has been run in the last few years. Buster's BSPA role has not helped KLS and perhaps not him either. He has as they say " lost the dressing room" AND the terraces.

I have "adored" watching Robert progress at KL and I use that word thoughtfully ( adored and put on a pedestal - of course we should never do that ). but I do have to agree with GRW123 as RL seems to have lost his way to a great extent. On track he can pull off some amazing and beautiful rides and I am pleased to have witnessed them. We are what we are shaped into by our early years and perhaps that truly is at the core of Robert's problems - who knows - perhaps even he doesn't.

Trees wrote about Robert Lambert " On Radio Norfolk yesterday he said that he thinks the fans should be given more information about what is going on during a meeting, he feels people get the wrong end of the stick about riders etc and it puts people off going to speedway" ​Robert is correct about this and it is what a number of Stars fans want to see happening, as part of the not treating them as mushrooms in future by the Promotion. Please help this to be brought about via the Supporters Club IF Buster is serious about having a better, more positive relationship with the fans. Persuading Mark Carney to return would be a start. As would holding a couple of meetings before Christmas with fans who want to contribute ideas to the promised further success of KLS.

Just can't see it being viable to bring NKI back ( however much I would like to see it ) unless that is, a major sponsor can be found to underwrite his signing. I think that the 2018 Premier League set up will be yet another, "on the cheap" cost cutting venture, no bad thing if it leaves the superstars to compete in other parts of Europe. Retain Robert Lambert at all costs to hang on to the remaining fanbase.

Fast forward to Sept 2018 and there will be 7 of the new 12 Premiership Clubs saying " if fans don't prove they want speedway enough to turn out in droves, they won't have it". And the BSPA Chairman says "The demise of speedway can only be laid at the door of the fans".

How do I get to watch TV2 Sport? Is this available online?

Is the pay rate for this event confirmed as "X" or will it be the £200 flat fee for the 4TT?

I do hope that you are right.

Should be charging £25 so that they could put the extra income towards the mythical new stadium.

So this is how the BSPA run the sport? Are "matters of fact" so very different to "as a matter of fact"? Because as a matter of fact the reserve replacement in heat 12 was illegal. How does the heat result then become a "matter of fact"? Is that why it stands? And DID Craig Cook present a medical certificate to the referee?

The BSPA has evolved over many years and like all processes of evolution, things become more and more complex and are loved and enjoyed ( internally ) as being so intricate. That is why the rule book is such a glorious thing.

Hurray! I will be watching and listening closely to see if enough changes are made to KLS to tempt me back to Saddlebow Rd. in 2018

GRW 123 wrote " but for the true followers of the Sport, this year has been a massive turn-off. Its all too easy to point fingers, but the fact remains, the Club made some bad decisions. The way the fans are kept in the dark, and taken for a ride, amounts to contempt of the highest order. Yes, we have to move on, but not before we have learnt from these bad times, ensuring they never happen again" AND I totally agree with him about the above and his excellent critique of the riders who should Go and who should Stay. However I fear that with the same promotion it is obvious that no lessons have been or will be learnt. There is no willingness to learn and that is the only way that progress can be made. Whoever really made those bad decisions ( wether Lyon, Allit or Chapman ) appear to show little sincere concern about the future. Without a new Promoter I just can't see things changing - even if the sport is re-structured yet again under Buster's leadership of the BSPA. The "massive turn off" referred to has certainly been true for me personally and after attending for all of the KLS seasons since they started at Saddlebow Rd. I am most unlikely to go next year.

No clear rules and no-one interested in implementing the ones that do exist. Same Old, Same Old BSPA style of "organising" speedway. Sadly, the slide down the pan will continue.

So, will the BSPA finally address the problem of D/U or R/R & guests in 2018 or are we going down the Chairman's route of more guests as and when needed?

Buster's reputation for Big Big News being upheld. Except - is fit or the Premier League or the Championship? But of course only Buster knows or has a good idea of which league ( or both ) the Stars could ride in.

Of course it could be a Bilbo job!

The Top Team should be the League Champions.

But moving to where else in Poland for 2018?

Rob McCaffrey wrote - re evening newspapers " The spiral gains momentum and standards disappear. Remind you of a sport? " ​Indeed the problem of evening newspapers does remind me of a sport, the one most of us don't want to see fade away down the spiral any further - but what choice do we have or part to play in it, other than to pay at the turnstile? ​As for newspapers, well as smartphones are now almost universal and when the last of us ( me inc. ) "my phone's a phone and it can send texts" types have exited the planet the "glass" will be the only way to get / give information. They will be embedded before long to save you carrying them or dropping / forgetting them. Or will there be swing back in some way?

Oh Yes! A new Promoter with a great interest in "promoting" KLS & speedway in general. And one who thinks the fans are a really important part of the club.

You will then eventually get a refund through the post, if Nathan is not having the winter off. That was also all over - as this is by noon. It's the forecast rain that might now trip up the meeting.