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Cheaper by far to standardise bikes or reduce their power output than build 12+ new tracks, Very few could be converted, although perhaps King's Lynn could ( if the will were there ).

Wright whales need careful conservation. The Right way.

Certainly, it won't be at the AFA, you can be sure of that. Buster has spent years building up his expertise and you can see the result of his skill in the racing there. Especially when it is on live TV for thousands to see.

Spot on Jenga. But it was late at night and the poor things were tired by being there and exhausting travelling with road problem around Manchest ( flooded streets ). And of course, it was an auto-correction fault, no doubt! No, you got it right - Abysmal PR, well up to par. Charles Wight rode for Bradford immediately after the war, so it must be all too easy to get them confused.

Even at those odds, the bookie is being very kind to Newman, S. Lambert and Ayres.

With Robert Lambert out through injury and both Cook and Bewley carrying an injury, it will be a very open British Final. But the lineup now very accurately reflects Tai Woffinden's point that " the gulf's too wide" in terms of class, between the British League and the world stage. An incredible gulf!

So are the others in the BSPA afraid of Buster Chapman or they so zoned out in a couldn't care less approach or have they already given up? Bereft of ideas that the majority of fans can relate to, certainly.

Eyes are normally a pretty good method of informal assessment but in terms of how exciting and thrilling racing is at the above tracks, we should use the measure of turnstile clicks ( paid ones ). None of them have reported new fans or disillusioned returning fans flocking to matches.

Later this year in the early autumn.

Sounds like one of the best put together proposals of the last few years and involves learning from the past. If we are unable to do that and /or come up with better, completely new ideas and just continue with the same old, same old of the last twenty years, it really is "game over".

But within the sport, it is regarded as a well run, well-managed club. And that is how the BSPA view the whole UK sport. Clear vision or delusional?

Now. Now, Mr Webb - all that looking backwards is frowned upon by so many modern fans (of the last twenty years ). Ivan Who? He never even won a GP round did he? Of course, to us creaky old uns he was once one of of the greatest ( just under Ove Fundin and above Barry Briggs ). Someone should ask them what their memories are of racing at Saddlebow Rd back in the day are like. Cookie and any others can say what they like but when Buster gets behind the wheel for a 12-hour stint of track prep, he is sure of what the riders need - or rather, what they are going to get. Have they ever prepared a "racing" strip, I can hear him saying? Anway if they can't gate, they are not real riders, are they! Only the first 150 yards count nowadays. Sorry metres ( showing my age there ).

Is this meeting ( Round 2 ) SEC being broadcast?

So Buster beginning the track prep at 5 am, as we were told, means that it's all wasted effort. But if he wears top quality ear muffs on the tractor it means he cannot hear the rider advice. Anyway, what do they know about track prep?

I Just can't see the straight-through exhaust being acceptable, from a noise perspective in many stadiums. As for capacity then any single cylinder from 250cc up would allow for racing that is fast enough and safe enough for the UK tracks. For UK speedway to survive it has to break away from what is happening on better tracks in Europe. Yes, call it Formula 2 speedway. What matters is the quality and excitement of on-track racing.

cityrebel said this on another thread " The British public don't want to go to speedway anymore. Cheaper admission would only be a short term fix. Once all of us old fogies have died off, its days as a professional sport will be over." And I believe that is correct. It is not an attractive leisure activity worth spending your money on - increasingly this century it is either invisible to the general public or uncool. When newbies do get there they find out that only 2 or 3 minutes out of two hours plus, is exciting enough to merit the word and that "races" are very rarely that. NSS excepted. Reduced prices might attract some fallen by the wayside diehards but it is as cityrebel says not at the heart of the problem,

2. 3 or four - even a Boris style clear out, would not put one extra bum on a seat. If you can't sell the thrilling racing invariably on offer at the NSS, you never will, except perhaps on another day when many more people want to watch speedway.

Unless he has not spent the money Buster paid him ( to therefore repay the Buy Back clause ) obviously very little, S.F.A. in fact.

Just the same at KL although there is a growing club of persistent " does it really have to be like this under Buster" thinkers & posters. Of course, we know that sadly the answer is , Yes!. He is a very hard man to persuade that even thinking that someone's point of view ( especially one different to his ) is worthy of hearing ( even if not listening to it or considering it).

Excellent. thank you for your efforts and now for your honest feedback. Much more constructive a result than when a small group of us prepared something for our local promoter. Not even a Thank You. Just deafening, disinterested silence ( that promoter has now left the sport ). The only thing that surprises me is that 65% of fans ( of 20 years standing ) said that the standard of race meetings now was better than in the past. So why would you think that so many have traipsed off the terraces? Incidentally, when was "now" ie when was this done? Thank you.

You are quite naturally forgiven. Genuine repentance means just that. What is unusual is that you found a location that normally offers peace and quiet to be infested with humans. The Abbey has much to be thankful for last night at least. A better crowd than normal is sadly the best any club can hope for nowadays.

I'm not "picking" on you. I never pick on anyone or insult them. I do pick up on factual inaccuracies, particularly from anyone who is trying to Big Up UK speedway while it slowly fades into an ignominious extinction. So if it was better than normal, Sidney's estimate is perhaps right for a "normal" match?

And "worship" of all things Buster. Funny how Trees never notices or accepts any of the negative facts like low crowds, very poor racing ( even after Buster works on the track from 5 a.m, ) and more people being unhappy with VFM at Saddlenow Road nowadays ( those who have just walked away because offering constructive feedback is pointless ). Where are the hordes of lost fans? They have not all died ( as some posters hope the fate of those offering feedback might be ). They are doing other things that offer better VFM.

Sadly I could not see the size of the crowd on the home straight. The Live feed was not working. I was commenting on your "reckoning" which was 30% out.

You said it here. Your reckoning was 500 out.