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I am not sure that speedway was ever "banned" as such in Japan, although it could haven been. After the second world war entertainment was very restricted as were all forms of legal gambling and I think that it was at that point that sand tracks of around 1/4 mile ( they could be used for speedway nowadays ) were designated for horse trotting racetracks. Motorcycle racing was then for some reason given over only to concrete or tarmac surfaces ( as in Autojo ). I believe that speedway could do well there on a league team basis as there is such a powerful identification locally with 'our team" and also in Japanese culture there is high interest in very short, high technique sports ( sumo for example where a great bout may last less than 10 seconds - is still popular ). I don't know anything about the origin of flat track racing on sand type surfaces or when that first appeared.

I think it is much more likely that Swindon ( a great old club ) will be swept away a la Coventry perhaps even as early as 2018 but certainly by 2019. The priority on that site is for the housing ( unlike the problem at Brandon ). Stadium sites will continue to be gobbled up as there is so little spectator demand ( poor crowds ) with no upswing in terms of many new fans likely.

I have seen Autojo in Japan ( as they call the style of oval racing using the 600cc bikes ) it is very exciting with massive handicaps used and so has a lot of passing BUT a meeting lasts 6 - 8 hours and there are usually no more than three heats in an hour. Lots of waiting around because it is primarily for betting so the process of collecting your winnings and placing your bets on the next heat consumes a lot of time. Take out the betting and it is more exciting to watch than speedway. There are many horse trotting tracks ( also a betting sport there ) which could easily be used for speedway if permitted.

My guess is that there is unlikely to be a return for Coventry as a club anywhere other than at Brandon. Finding a site and building from scratch will take 5 - 10 years if we are lucky. Brandon, however damaged, IS a there now as a stadium - ready-ish to roll. What it needs is someone to purchase it and run it without anyone from the previous promotion involved in any way whatsoever.

As the one labelled the "gormless old fool " I feel it is my public duty to reveal further information about the libellous letter written to me in pm. I posted it to prevent the possibility of violent threatening acts outside of this forum ( i.e. history repeating itself ) The powers that be gave me detailed information of the violent past record of FF and his general instability . Unstable enough to have been banned on here several times and come back in other incarnations (Drop a Cog ). I didn't think that was permitted on here but is you have as many "dear friends" apparently you can. Hmmm. After what they told me I know that you can't be DG as it seems you have only been to the NSS on one occasion and thankfully now that Brandon is closed you can't be arrested and banned from there again. Hmmm. What a pity that civilised debate is beyond your powers FF . Hmmm. From one "gormless old fool" to another it seems.

"Whilst the Council was the employer under the building contract, the preparation of the track was being managed by BVA and their track curator due to their expertise in this area. BVA was fully involved in all works to the track. Their track curator was involved throughout the construction process and worked closely with the building contractor, ISG, providing advice and guidance in relation to the track itself. " Oh! More revelations about who did what, under who's direction. Now we know who had the necessary expertise in the area of track building. And now we know, it certainly shines more light on what went on in the building of the track at the NSS.

So, how many Gerhard engines are known to have been purchased to date? How many have been seen in use at Press & Practice days or early season matches? Almost no mention of it has been made. Does that mean that there is very little interest in switching to G. engines from riders?

Chris Morton was a spectacular and exciting speedway racer but he now seems to have put his head in the sand and wants to avoid everything about the disorganised first season at the NSS. He was an active part of BVAL and shares some responsibility for how it all ended up. But it is no good just saying I want to be part of the Aces in future at the NSS - in some way ( I am sure he will in some capacity ) but his on track exploits years ago do not mean that he is exempt from criticism about his time as a promoter. I would like to think that in the next few months he will be open and honest about his time running BVAL.

Doesn't seem to me much better managed this year than last! After BVAL were removed as promoters it must have been the BSPA? And Now in 2017 "under new management" IF it is? Running the same titled event, who Is organising things about speedway racing at the NSS?

Lets hope so because a weak team being left with one or two "can't cut it riders" for meeting after meeting is going to cause the crowd size to diminish yet again.

I think the there could be a lot of truth in this point of view. As a Stars fan I am concerned about some of CH's comments on the issue. I would prefer that KL replace CH with Danny King - if that was contractually and legally possible. If the Poland situation continues I think that there will be NO GP riders or top world class riders in the UK in 2018. Except for the cream of the up & coming British young guns. That would be no bad thing as UK speedway IS going through quite a transformation and 2018 will see further steps with more changes.

For anyone interested in the latest Frolics of Fred Flange here is his slanderous pm reply in full. What foulmouthed Gollum like creature he is. Is he really David Gordon do you think? No you are missing the point. Every point I am about to make is verifiable fact and not opinion. Dear David or Fred, thank you for your clearly written confirmation of slandering me ( several times ). Now we will see if you have balls - please forward by pm your real identity and address so that I can instruct my legal representative to commence action. A pity to use the majesty of the law on such a neanderthal, but that is the path you have chosen. The only thing we have in common is that neither of us wish to bet against each other ( but I notice you carefully back out or is that welch on the original bet which is nothing to do with the NSS track problems and is solely about the competence or otherwise of DG / CM / BVAL to promote speedway. The BSPA have confirmed that part of things. I look forward to your personal contact details and confirm that any damages I may receive will go to the SRBF - before I die providing you are man enough to face the law. The question is - are you?

Oh Fred. Showing yourself to be total plonker then? backing out of a bet just because the bet conditions couldn't be controlled solely by yourself! What a pity that like several of the other regular bully trolls permitted to post as they wish you hide behind the anonymity when you could be taken to court as I would hope to do over your - " Anyway, now you have proven to be untrustworthy and I now know I'm not dealing with anything remotely close to a 'gentleman' feel free to post as much of the pm as you like, as you have waived any implied confidentiality I am happy to show you in a better light...... What is the point of a pm if it is going to be publicised - certainly not the act of a gentleman yourself! And your comment that "I can't wait" for someone's death is inexcusable and you are excused from the human race for that. Much more than a plonker. You just didn't want to lose the £1,200 you said you were prepared to bet when you first accepted my offer. Now that IS welching!

Unlike you ouch I am neither a fool nor a previously banned one ( is that nickname of yours chosen because you have previously been banned & more than once? ) Wow Fred - and your advice was to trust someone like "ouch" with our wager funds ( or was it only my money )? And as for your Hargreaves Landsdown suggestion that from what I gleaner when Googling them is about as trustworthy as ouch! See below m - But if as an investor the growth of your money is all you care about, there is now scant justification for choosing Hargreaves Lansdown as your fund supermarket. That's why this matters. - Ouch!

Do keep up Fred. My original bet still stands and I will will pay the £100 to the Ben Fund if more than £1 is paid. The NEW bet stated today and only valid if you openly committ yourself to matching it, is for £1,200 to be paid to the Ben Fund if the full claimed compensation DG/CM claims IS paid to them. Let's call that £650,000 . Just to be clear, as you often sound confused, If DG /CM DO NOT receive at least £650,000 - then you pay £1.200 to the Ben Fund. Are you prepared to put your money where your mouth is? We can easily firm this challenge up by private messaging and another poster who we both trust can be the in between. You are certain that DG/CM are the innocent victims and I am certain that they were inept and out of their depth as well as being responsible for the whole mess.

Oh Dear Fred, you are behind the times yet again. The statement you portray me as posting from the most recent SS article ( i.e. inc. the MCC point of view ) is in fact from DG's own first attempt at spreading the whitewash ( as helped by SS ) Are you sure that you have now read both of the articles in question? I am beginning to believe that you are DG and are determined to face up to the facts of what DG and CM did during 2016 season ( and the build up to it ). You are never prepared tp put your money where your mouth is Fred. I bet one pound for each member of the crowd at the Glasgow Bonanza ( £1,200 ) to the SRBF that DG / CM DO NOT get the compensation they claim they are owed £600,000 plus . Are you prepared to bet the other way?

I have never misrepresented anything on here - I leave that to you. I merely ( or was that clearly ) offered an opinion after reading the facts as put forward. Unless the forum moderators and their pals no longer want opinions expressed on here I will continue to come to my own conclusions.

TW is terrific a speedway talent and would have flourished if he had stayed in Australia rather than coming here to develop his ability. There were powerful family ties in doing that as well. I regret very much that he has turned his back - for now - on riding for GB but I do love to watch him in the GPs. Riders have always gone where the money is and the other major regret I have is that promoters over the last twenty years seem to have not much bothered about the crowd levels - until the millions from Sky came to a halt. So we are the "poor men" of European speedway nowadays when it comes to attracting the top riders.

Shocking that the SRBF Bonanza meeting should pull in only 1,200 people at Glasgow. Considering the Glasgow promotion are genuinely on top of publicity there, is there a serious appetite for speedway anywhere in the UK?

More whitewash from his SS pals for DG. When he fails to get any compensation from anyone the SS will not be mentioning the matter at all. Just poor judgement and seemingly little business sense. Did Chris Morton never have a say in how it was run up to the point where their license was revoked? That seems to be how he prefers it to be seen now.

Sadly reflects the decision makers choice of how to spend the 15 years of Sky money ( used to pay big names ) and now spending a huge amount on Gerhadt engines - that seemingly few riders are opting for. The state that British speedway is in now we should be using all of the British riders who want to ride and build up our own stock for the future. The only way forward is to use home grown talent if we want speedway to thrive in the UK. And - where is this Big Marketing Push we were promised by the BSPA. Will it start when BT begin covering domestic speedway?

Now mid March and in my area at least no sign of the enormous marketing effort promised by the BSPA for 2017. Is it coming after all the tracks are up and running? The number of "hotbeds of the sport" have declined so much, if what we read about Wolves attendances is correct. Is Poole the only track holding it's crowd levels up?

Still puzzled about how the bank became the owner of Brandon ( before they sold it on ). Did Sandhu default on his mortgage? Or did he never own it outright? Perhaps he was yet another Del boy promoter, only seeming wealthy?

So who owned it and who sold it to whom?

Is there any truth to the rumour that Robert Lambert is very unsettled at KL? The rumour is that he will be on his way at the end of the season if not before.