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Indeed! me too. They have no loyalty to offer the Stars it seems. Sweden and Poland give Holder enough income so I am not even sure he wants to go to Poole ( except for the visa ).

Who took over as Team Manager after he was taken to hospital?

Join the "Agatha Christie" - how does this come about club as many supporters have the same questions about KL Stars. As well as Set ups? Machinery? we also add track prep? and rider motivation ( match guarantees instead of points )?

We ( the UK / GB ) were winners in speedway during the era when we had the most powerful ( and well paying ) leagues with high average crowds. There was money in the sport and that is when riders from Europe flocked here a) to gain experience to earn better money. The wheel has turned so far round and in the last 20 years Sweden and Poland have become THE places to go to for riders with serious aspirations ( if you can get in ) and where you can earn much higher rewards. As the sport has faded in terms of spectator appeal across the UK and little money is now available we can no longer attract the top stars. Or soon retain the services of more of our own top riders ( TW has left already and others will go when / if they get the offers and quite right too ). Thats the way of things - decline & fall. Those less prominent countries now emerging have riders who are getting Polish experience. I was surprised to hear that Sky are continuing to fulfil their contract of payments to the BSPA ( whilst not wanting to offer coverage ) Can that money not be used for setting up Test matches abroad? Or did it all go on buying Gerhard engines?

E I Addio said " Bottom line is not only are these things an indictment of the way the sport is run the problem is compounded by the totally amateurish way they wash their dirty linen in public." It is done this way just to muddy the waters even more - Chapman's statement was just to speed up the process of sweeping things under the carpet and "move on" hoping not to lose even more supporters along the way. He has definitely lost a goodly number more this time. ​We still do not know and he did not say - who ordered the two KL riders not to come out for heat 9? Was it the team manager or the riders themselves who started the protest / rebellion and who didn't give a fig for the fans? If it was the riders why was no action taken against them by the ref? If it was the promotion why have they not been censured? Is the referee's report on the meeting made public?

And there's the rub, There will be no action, no fines and no sackings. Buster has said his few words of "apology" and HE has moved on. Next week will tell us how many more fans just can't be bothered with the same old , same old. Yes Holder should be told to move on ASAP and even to Poole this season if that is where he wants to be. Holder had his severe injuries in 2012 and chose to return to riding ( and again even after Ward's awful fate ). The referee is responsible for determining if a track is fit and it should be left to them. Riders should be fined their match fee ( guarantee ) and any points money on the night for pulling out without permission.

I thought the purpose of this race being shown was to highlight what you are going to get 12 of every week at the AFA!

Nothing will happen, no one will be called to account over what has happened. Is the Chairman going to investigate himself? How will they find anyone else who is unbiased inside the BSPA? It's speedway. All the fans can do is walk away and NOT go again and that is what I suggest those genuinely fed up with it, do next week because it will not change as long as you go on accepting things as they are.. Fan power can be as effective as rider power, I bet. Let the crowd plummet and Oh Yes we will be told "it's gone because you didn't want it enough". That's speedway too it's happened in lots of places. Some fans, hopefully enough to make the protest significant, don't want what is on offer and don't want to be mushroomed ( you know, kept in the dark and fed on bullrubbish ) forever.

But MF did not want to retain his services for this season. CH was looking for a job ( and a visa ) and he found a well paid one at KL.

Let's have some answers please Buster. Not the limp apology issued today - blaming everyone else for the farce. Will we ever be told who instructed the riders to "down tools"? Did it come from them themselves and who started that debate, if that was the case? Does the result not stand? Why is there no result listed, even though the meeting was concluded? I was a Stars fan but Poole deserve the points. Who does control a meeting, is it not the referee?

Bye Bye Chris Holder then. You are welcome to him. Drop KK and have him now.

Sorry seems to be the easiest word for Buster. Just not enough as fans not on here are saying the same things. Not going to bother again. Even if Buster did learn something last night he learnt it a bit too late. Buster needs to demonstrate that he is taking remedial ACTION ( deeds not words ) to make sure that he or someone he pays to prepare the track actually do so to the extent that that riders have the confidence to RACE on the surface provided ( not merely ride on it as as happened most of this season ). Fans are turning their backs on you and KL - the place you have put your heart into because you are longer focussed enough on it. What has been on offer this season is dreadful racing NOT VFM Buster, no matter how many hours you have put in. And as for riders they accept that they cannot hope to ride for the Big Euro deals on offer in Poland where "rider power" has no effect on wether matches are called off or not. It was rider power last night! Ugly too! Might as well have sat on the fence and taken a dump on the terraces ( rubbish on the fans in other words ). If rider want it to be perfect every time they race they need to ride a pushtrike in a kiddies padding pool. Or perhaps virtual speedway app. with no element of danger involved at all. Thankfully the national media takes no notice of speedway nowadays because if they reported on last night's debacle it would all be negative reporting on what a joke speedway has become. And THIS V Poole was a King's Lynn Speedway "non-event". Lessons were clearly not learned!

He did not want a job there, he wanted only a visa from them to race in Europe. Be honest about it.

Need to hear a lot more than "sorry and please don't turn your back on the club" - Buster needs to demonstrate that he is taking remedial ACTION ( deeds not words ) to make sure that he or someone he pays to prepare the track actually do so to the extent that that riders have the confidence to RACE on the surface provided ( not merely ride on it as as happened most of this season ). Fans are turning their backs on you and KL - the place you have put your heart into because you are longer focussed enough on it. What has been on offer this season is dreadful racing. And for riders they accept that they cannot hope to ride for the Big Euro deals on offer in Poland where rider power has no effect on wether matches are called off or not. It was rider power last night! Ugly too! Might as well have sat on the fence and taken a dump on the terraces ( rubbish on the fans in other words ). If rider want it to be perfect every time they race they need to ride a pushtrike in a kiddies padding pool. Or perhaps virtual speedway app. with no element of danger involved at all.

And I have never felt so horribly let down by speedway and some people in it. GRW123 said" In all my time this was without doubt the greatest demolition, the sport has ever seen. If ever there a was occasion when the self destruct button was pressed, then it was last night. Having scored an impressive away victory the previous night, what could possibly happen to stop us gaining a double over our bitter rivals. Thinking before the start, how nice the place looked with the new shale, and that wonderful new electric scoreboard. With Rain in the air, I expected we will start on time, and the proceedings to flow." And is certainly so in my experience too. - did no-one think about the results of their actions? So much anticipation and eagerness to see how it would all unfold. But then it just collapsed onto itself. Self destruct indeed. ​Buster and Chris Holder seem to be the ones who started the supporters nightmare and should be called to account by the SCB -bringing the sport into disrepute - comes to mind. As they are such "respected figures within the sport" - who knows. From being my current speedway hero over the last four years Robert Lambert, sadly seems to be growing down rather than growing up. And yes - as GRW123 also said and with which I completely agree - we fans were treated terribly. "Finally, tonight was probably the last meeting many will bother to go again. We fans were treated terribly, We didn't know anything, we were not told anything, and were expected to do as they thought fit. Such a shame because tonight could have been a wonderful time when we as a club get noticed...... We sure did that.....

GRW123 said" In all my time this was without doubt the greatest demolition, the sport has ever seen. If ever there a was occasion when the self destruct button was pressed, then it was last night. Having scored an impressive away victory the previous night, what could possibly happen to stop us gaining a double over our bitter rivals. Thinking before the start, how nice the place looked with the new shale, and that wonderful new electric scoreboard. With Rain in the air, I expected we will start on time, and the proceedings to flow." And is certainly so in my experience too. - did no-one think about the results of their actions? So much anticipation and eagerness to see how it would all unfold. But then it just collapsed onto itself. Self destruct indeed. ​Buster and Chris Holder seem to be the ones who started the supporters nightmare and should be called to account by the SCB -bringing the sport into disrepute - comes to mind. As they are such "respected figures within the sport" - who knows. From being my current speedway hero over the last four years Robert Lambert, sadly seems to be growing down rather than growing up. And yes - as GRW123 also said and with which I completely agree - we fans were treated terribly. "Finally, tonight was probably the last meeting many will bother to go again. We fans were treated terribly, We didn't know anything, we were not told anything, and were expected to do as they thought fit. Such a shame because tonight could have been a wonderful time when we as a club get noticed...... We sure did that.....

How will things ever change within the sport - with the Chairman of the BSPA being part of the disgusting disrespect to supporters offered up at the match V Poole. The BSPA are never going to haul these culprits ( KL riders and officials ) before any kind of "hearing" are they?. The BSPA "police" themselves. Things will never change at KL either while Buster is in control ( regardless of whose name is listed as "promoter/s" ) Why is Rob Lyon listed as one of them and is increasingly invisible? After 50 years of supporting the Stars I too have had enough. In fact I urge all fans to boycott the next match V Rye House and hit Buster where it might make him notice - in his wallet.

I have to agree with all of the above. Especially if the result does not stand. I won't be going again.

I was one of those there who wish that I had not been. The fans desire to watch the racing they had paid for was pushed aside by some riders attitude of "we are not going to race on this". There was very little volume of rain during the meeting and the early heat times were the fastest for a long time. It looked good. And if it were a GP or a "significant meeting" it would have just continued without complaint. Those riders who objected to riding and the club officials who went along with the charade of "protest" certainly did not consider the paying public last night. The paying public were cheated. I was cheated and I would like my money back. Will we ever be told who instructed the riders to "down tools"? Did it come from them themselves and who started that debate, if that was the case? Does the result not stand? Why is there no result listed, even though the meeting was concluded? I was a Stars fan but Poole deserve the points. Who does control a meeting, is it not the referee? The last time a promoter abused the public and the sport he was dismissed, why is it not going to happen this time.

I truly hope so because it has not been run professionally for two or three years and the operation of the AFA makes much more money from non speedway events ( instead of losing it on speedway ) BIG brush needed for sweeping this mess under the carpet.

Totally true but Why Oh Why can't the Chairman of BSPA see that, even in his own backyard?

What he needs to bring him back to earth and around to his senses ( assuming that he has some ). And at least Cook apologised for his World Cup form but Lambert merely said he had " a great time at the world cup" - don't tell me that was irony?

It is how you bring them up that counts.

For sure! And it will all be airbrushed so that we never know who the instigator of the rebellion really was. As unprofessional as it gets - even for the "sport" of speedway.

The one who let the team down tonight is the one who incited, persuaded or commanded the team to throw in the towel. So will the real villain please stand up? Is it a) Chris Holder Robert Lambert c) Dale Allit OR the Lyon / Chapman (K) promotional duo?