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Another crazy idea. How about JT plus 2 other 4 point Aussies. I know I keep on about the Aussies. But that's how Matt/Danny signed the Cooks. Both I believe on 4 and were looked at based on the various close season meetings and the 5 round Aussie Champs (over about 10 days in early Jan. Or maybe Macdonald who had 1.5 season's racing here and another untried but maybe promising Aussie who will be looked at over te Winter. Just a thought as we are trying to work out who. That would avoid using a 2 pointer or the likes of Smith/Bickley or another 2 pointer. Just thinking aloud. Macdonald had a base in UK in 2019 - had it fixed for Covid year 2020 and also had it for 2022 bfore injury cut his season short and still on a 4 GSA.

Like me you come to similar conclusion in that last reserve slot.

You have to admire Smith persevering in the sport. He is 24 on 17th December - ridden 6 full seasons with a combo of NDL/Champ and even 2 seasons in Prem and still only getting barely 3 points av in Champ. He must love it as I think a few would have maybe called time on it. Perhaps his dad keeps him motivated to keep trying. I remember when both him and Jack Parkinson Blackburn looked the 2 riders who would be our next Brit stars back in 2016/17/18 but wan't to be.

Yes but playing the name the team game each dark/cold winter adds a bit of fun. I just hope Matt/Danny have already sorted their team a while ago, but that will no doubt become more apparent when they start naming. I just hope they don't leave the missing 3 riders until last as it may be a long wait. Suppose if most of the others do complete naming earlier at least it will be process of elimination as in last couple of seasons.

Maybe a case of promoters in the South like at Oxford & Poole think people are a lot better off and will pay it. When you consider what the likes of Arsenal & Spurs rip off their supporters for and still get 60,000 plus turn up each match it wouldn't surprise me. Not that I am making a fair comparison but suppose they will charge what they feel they can get away with. Whether that be fair or not.

Based on a lot of earlier comments and Nathan's own initial comments, that would indicate that perhaps The Ford's team plans have not gone as planned on either the so called Dream Team or plans B or C ??

My only slight worry is it would tie up 9.87 of our 12.97 leaving only 3.1 left and moves Zach out of reserve. Looks like that may happen anyway the way things are going. Must admit I am struggling looking at the final GSA and without Rew/Zischke or both to come up with a decent last 3. Whichever way I calculate you end up with Zach moving into the main team plus you end up with a very low pointer in the second reserve slot. You can try Thomas with Thompson or Newman with one of them or Rowe/Starke/Ruml/Nicol/A.Morris/C.Bailey. Whichever way I end up with Roynon or Bickley in the last slot purely on points left. Think either would pick up odd points but both would rely on a strong reserve partner like Cook which then puts me back on the merry go round of who to get within the 12.97 we have left. A slight curve ball. Last week Josh Macdonald was worried he would be looking for a job in Aussie if no UK club came calling. He's on a 4 and was a Poole rider before Covid struck in 2020. Had his own UK base up North so assume not such a large expense ? Jeez - I bet Matt and Danny's calculators have been working overtime trying to get the right mix.

Appreciate your comments, but is the last bit based on the fact you have hard fact concrete information neither are definitely not coming or based on your own opinion. I already aired my own comments on here that maybe one reason for neither signing could be the financial constraints now the club is in the Champ and following those difficult times when they were dropped in it back in the day by that sponsor and then the difficulties of the Covid lock down. I fully understand why they maybe would not go down that route UNLESS there are some deep pocketed sponsors maybe willing to help. It was Danny who mentioned the words "Dream Team" and then added he had his option B & C. The Aussies would have people thinking that maybe this was the route he may be taking. Personally I am struggling how he could come up with a dream team based on the 12.97 points left available for 3 riders after discounting the obvious top 4 we already know. But then it could be my idea of a dream team is different to his, and the Ford's are past masters of using the Echo to big up possible plans. I don't blame them for it as it keeps people like me excited as to what may be coming for next season. Their record of the last 2 seasons in Champ cannot be faulted as the team performed when it mattered.

Not me. I would still like to see Rew & Zischke but a couple/few seem to think neither coming. They are entitled to their opinion, but have seen nothing from any of them as to the reasons why neither would be riding. Rew openly said in his Polish interview that he intended to also ride in the Champ as well as Prem in 2023. Unless he changed his mind then the obvious 2 clubs are Poole who we know were interested quite a while back and Glasgow with their financial clout. As for Zischke, seen nothing so far to say he is staying in Aussie but with his impressive displays as a 17 year old in Aussie with Darcy Ward giving a decent write up on him reminding him of how he was at the same age, then the Poole connection kind of made sense on only a 4 av. Also Danny openly stated in the Echo recently he had a "Dream Team" first choice side plus already in place an option B & C. To make a comment like that you would think he had something different up his sleeve in mind. Just my opinion but these 2 for me were the standout options on decent averages at 5 & 4 points with the obvious Poole criteria of being both young with massive scope to add to their averages. Again this is just my opinion and no doubt others have theirs including the expected contributors who will maintain neither are coming. It's simpe, if not then I assume they know why not, in which case just say why instead of just saying they are not joining Poole.

You know our team then or you know Gino ??

I would like to know how close the Ford's are to securing their "Dream Team" as Danny put it or if he has his back up plan of B or C which I assume already had the riders he wanted some weeks ago. On Newman, I agree would be a decent signing at reserve but its that second reserve that would be a key part of the pairing.

Just for info but Gino Manzares is coming back to Speedway and rides in Europe in 2023. Just signed SWE 2nd Div and is looking for clubs/s elsewhere in Europe. May be nothing as far as UK is concerned but his last finishing GSA listed as 4 in 2018 (no doubt could get a reduction MAYBE ?? ) having not ridden in UK in 4 years). His name was bantered around I think at one time as a possile Poole candidate ?? His 32 match av was in fact 3.85 according to Speedway Stats.co.uk excl BP which took it to 4.54. May be interesting if he was given a below 4 revised rating as a possible reserve contender. Anyway as said probably nothing in it but just one to put out there as its only recently been put out on the POL Sportowefakty Speedway site.

Think it was quite a while out and was a serious injury. Only raced after the injury for the first time that season in Aug 2020. Bearing in mind when POL finishes meant he near enough missed most of that season. Yes it did hamper his initial progress but stayed in POL I believe, and really showed the potential was there both in the initial POL EXL U24 season just gone for Leszno his parent club plus in about 7 meetings for his loaned out Lge1 Club Krosno. Odd meetings in DK as well I believe. That's what makes him look so attractive in our Champ on a 5 GSA.

Correct - Article said he didn't, same with another rider, so field was reduced by 2.

Zischke in the Aussie U21 finals a week ago. Also remember both Pearson & Hook had the benefit of a full UK season. I wonder if tate was on a Polish tuned engine how close it may have been with Rew as on that first lap he gave it a good go arguably on inferior equipment. Remember the lad is only 17. Rew is 19 and had at least 2/3 seasons living and racing in Poland. he is also staying there is 2023 flying in and out of UK. Probably has both good equipment -top rated engine tuners etc. Australian Junior Individual Championships: 1. Keynan Rev (3,3,3,3,3) 15+1. 1st place in final A 2. Tate Zischke (3,1,3,3,3) 13+2. 2nd place in A final 3. James Pearson (1,3,2,3²2) 11+1. place in the B+3 final. 3rd place in final A 4. Jacob Hook (2,3,3,3,1) 12+4. 4th place in final A 5. Fraser Bowes (3,2,2,2,2) 11+2. place in B-final 6. Maurice Brown (3,1,1,2,2) 9+3. 1st place in final B 7. Liam May (1,2,3,D,3) 9+4. place in final B 8. Cordell Rogerson (2,2,2,1,2) 9 9. Michael West (UW,3,0,2,3) 8 10. Jack McDiarmid (0,2,1,2,D ) 5 11. Patrick Hamilton (1,1,1,1,1) 5 12. Lachlan Hayes (2,UW,0,1,0) 3 13. Harrison Ryan (2,0,NS,D,1) 3 14. Tom Dixon (1,0,1,1,D) 3 15. Jackson Milner (T,0,2,0,UW) 2 16. Teagan Pedler (0,1,0,0,1) 2

That lad is only 17 and has received rave reviews from Darcy Ward who said he reminds him of a young Darcy at the same age. He has in the last few weeks regularly beaten Pearson & Hook and won the NSW U21 Championship. He has an exciting style and his performance in the Aussie U21 Champ was impressive and only Rew who was probably riding his 2022 POL tuned engines who beat him in the final. Personally from what I have seen of his riding he has all the signs of an exciting one for the future. But we can all have an opinion

Does Aussie U21 not qualify then ?? Have the likes of Pearson & Hook managed to achieve then ? Pearson was only 16 when he arrived start of last season and Hook was only 19.

If that is the case then I can only think it will be down to the cost cutting as a result of our drop down into Champ. Rew flying in and out has a cost associated and maybe also lodging racks up costs. Zischke certainly has a cost associated to him as a 17 year old requiring lodging - equipment - sponsorship - transport etc. Maybe Poole want to avoid all of these kind of costs and we know the Cook's have tied up Middlo's place which used to be the haven for young Aussies like kurtz/Ward back in the Prem days. If they are both not in our team then I question what Danny's idea of his Dream Team is ??. I await with eager anticipation for the all to become clear comments and the why.

Based on what info ??. Well informed source or just an opinion ??

I see that young Zischke was a little unlucky but rode quite well in the Queensland State Champ earlier today. Speedway News PL reported the following regarding his efforts. However, Tate Zischke can talk about a lot of bad luck. The recently crowned Australian Junior runner -up in the second series of heats miscounted the laps. Therefore, from the three points next to his name, we wrote down only "one" and from the last qualifying place he advanced to the B final. Finished second in the B Final to Zane Kennedy but beat both Keleher and Hook.Just needs to refine his lap counting skills . May well have cost him a place in the A Final. Still looks a rising star at 17 I believe. Queensland State Championships at Bowen: 1. Ryan Douglas (3,3,3,3,3) 15+ 1st A-Final 2. Declan Kennedy (3,3,1,3,2) 12+ 2nd A-Final 3. Kozza Smith (3,3,3,2,1) 12+ A-final defect 4. Zaine Kennedy (2,D,3,3,3) 11+ 1st place B+W A-final 5. Tate Zischke (1 ,1,2,2,3) 9+ 2nd B-Final 6. Jacob Hook (2,2,1,3,2) 10+ 3rd B-Final 7. Zane Keleher (2,3,2 ,2,3) 12+ 4th B-final 8. Bradley Page (0,2,3,1,1) 7 9. Cordell Rogerson (0,2,2,1,2) 7 10. Flynn Nicol ( 0,1,2,2¸1) 6 11. Matthew Day (1,2,W,1,2) 6 12. Broc Hall (3.0 ̦D,1.0) 4 13. Riley Campbell (1.1 ,1.D,W) 3 14. Jacob Samwell (2,W,0,0,0) 2

Apologies (Also to Skidder) - Just found it on IPS full press release. Going to be a busy boy then in and out every week. He could well on a busy week over our 2 leagues ride Mon Prem/Tues (Plym)/Wed (Poole ?/) /Thur (Ippo) and Friday (northern Champ). I assume he will stay in UK on weeks where he has several meetings in a week here. He is young and hopefully will cope with all the travelling & racing.

Is that known Skidder ?? I know on a youtube video some time ago he said he was living in Leszno but that's because he was riding in Leszno U24 team all season (all midwwek matches) with some guest appearances at 8 for the EXL Team. Plus he was riding some Sundays for Krosno who he was partially loaned to. Also some DK meetings when not clashing with the U24 team. Next season he will be loaned full time to Gdansk (Mainly Sundays), with no U24 league. In effect on a regular basis MON Prem/Tue odd meetings at Plym/Wed poss Poole ??/Thur Ippo/Fri the Northern Champ tracks and Sun POL. Could he maybe base himself in UK if doubling up and then back to his POL base for the weekend meetings. Just a thought.

Must admit disturbed by what I am reading on the press release on Speedway news.PL about Rew and signing for Ipswich (released today). The Australian was looking for a suitable job after the season in the Danish league. According to unofficial information, he will also be targeting a backroom contract - the SGB Championship The article more worrying goes on to say: it is very possible that the Australian will try to get involved in the Championship. Finally, the 19-year-old wants to use his starts in Britain to develop his skills. Rumors speak of an engagement in the northern part of Great Britain, most likely Scotland. Please nooooooooo.......... Maybe his good friend Doyle didn't bury the hatchet with Poole . I do hope i'm wrong. The article did use the word RUMOR so maybe the correspondent has not been looking in on the Poole Forum

No Rew on 5 and Zischke on 4 I was of the understanding. Both fit, its a case of whats left which not a lot. Beleive tate only had a few guest rides/meetings in DK second Div before going back to Aussie just to test the water. In effect NO real racing experience in Europe of note.

Quite to my surprise Redcar only another 58 miles (one way) difference from Ipswich compared to Poole, so not too much longer for the guy to travel one would think. Good luck to the guy I say. Been a good Captain Had it tough at times last season with his equip, but came good when it mattered.