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I think as a neutral Morris has talent and imo most of his issues are in his own head as he has the ability if applying it. I believe he has at times maybe had attitude problems which would have been better channelled into his riding rather than being viewed as a bit of an Aussie tearaway. Maybe thinking too much he was another Darcy Ward and trying to match Darcy but in the wrong way. I would not give up on him and I think a double up would do him good personally. Give some Champ riders a beating more to help his confidence as I think he is one who thrives more when his mood is positive. I also think a move out of Polsh Extralia to the lower division will also help his progress and confidence. He still has time to make it big if he channels it positively. Just my opinion.

Hmmm Seems not a lot has changed then since I last visited about 28 years ago.... Having said that Lakeside was hardly utopiah. That seemed to have same facilities since it opened back in the year dot. A toilet visit was both a challenge and a health hazard. Flippers were needed on some occasions. It's sad that I even make jest of some of our stadia in such a manner but unfortunately its true. Anyway I hope Rye do invest a bit of money to give supporters the facilities they deserve for the new Prem. Good luck and fortune to all involved and well done for making such a brave move.

Hi POP I must admit that one thing I have learned from the Poole Forum over the last couple of years as a mere visitor and non contributor (until 1/2 weeks ago) is my observation that you seem to have good inside info on some of the comings and goings. Think you are a lot more local than I am being in deepest Chelmsford - Essex. Maybe you have your ear close to the ground or maybe even a connection to the top table ;-) I may be way off but just a feeling I have based on some of your informed comments/opinions over the last couple of years. It would be great if we did have Matt F or Neil M in disguise posing as a contributor lol.

Maybe he will but how long does he hold fire while the discussions go on. Teams will start to fill and even he will surely start getting itchy as what to do going forward the longer it drags on. It's times like this I wish we had the Polish system of a fixed transfer period of say between 2 weeks and 1 month but can't expect utopia in the PL. Another thing I have always wondered since I started viewing the BSF. Speedway is not like the Football PL or MOTO GP. Its a relatively small motor sport in UK in relative terms. We all know how Matt Ford is both a successful speedway promotor as well as a strong supporter/advocate of the sport. Taking this into account and knowing his love for Poole, I wonder how much he may look in (especially in the close season) at both his own Poole Supporters Forum as well as the Poole BSF forum. Can't help thinking if I was a promotor in such a smallish motor sport I would be eager to look in on both and take on board supporters thoughts/wishes/comments etc. Maybe he could also have an alias name for contribution. Find it hard to believe that he would not look in if only out of curiosity as its not as if he would have to view 50,000 posts per day. I have always wondered if he may have an alias name and is contributing in some way. If not I hope he looks in if only to have a laugh at some of the rumours/thoughts and comments, and maybe even glean some ideas based on some of what is written. After all the supporters are the life blood and future of this sport in whatever format we have going forward. They should not be totally ignored.

If you can guarantee BV will be running and paying his salary in 2017 I would probably say happy to let you keep him just for the pleasure of preserving our best UK track (layout) and for the pleasure of having another UK track run in 2017. Heaven help us if we lose our newest and the so called new home of speedway plus a massive embarrassment to the sport if it doesn't run next year. Good luck to all up their trying their best to keep it going. But I keep my opinion none the less and for sure would like to have him at Poole to tie up with the other 2 budding Aussie potential superstars. Worth the entrance money alone irrespective of who's heat leader which most my fellow Pirate supporters seem to think is probably under control with Mr Ford. Let's hope so ;-) Believe me only a matter of time before I reply to a contentious Starman comment otherwise I wouldn't be joining the fun of the forum ;-) For sure though will not be commenting on any of the nasty stuff that frequents both this and the other team forums far too often. Last thing I want is to pour fuel on raging fires which turn nasty and personal at times. I will keep it to sensible (hopefully) Speedway opinion and comments.

Ah Gavan A man who have not had the pleasure of replying to but have had the pleasure of seeing your posts over the last couple of years. I only joined 1/2 weeks ago. I can see how you pull the chains of some people I must admit ;-) Starman said he (like I) would like to see Fricke at Poole and he can see more improvement to come. He did not mention anywhere about that improvement would only come from joining Poole. His comment regarding a rider coming on a ton at Poole was an unnamed in this post rider. I read his post as he wrote it. I think he would progress further if riding in a happy and secure environment with other young Aussies on the upgrade who are maybe not as forward as he has been in such a short career. I think there is improvement to come from Fricke and looking at his CV so far as a rider not 21 until March. What he has achieved to date compared to say Brady Kurtz (admittedly with an additional season compared to Brady in UK). I agree with Starman that I see him improving. I think that is irrespective of where he rides. Maybe not as exciting and exuberant as a Darcy Ward but neither was Leigh Adams and didn't stop him reaching the top. It works though as riders such as C.Holder -D.Ward - M.Janowski and others who escape the memory for now will profess. Maybe hole avoiding is part and parcel of the make up in becoming a good Speedway GP rider LOL Naughty comment but must admit it made me laugh when I saw it :-)

I wonder if that might change if it became his home track. Anyway its all about opinions which makes this forum so thought provoking and as a new contributor as I am, also enjoyable fun when it isn't the nasty stuff some seem to thrive on lol. Not putting you in that crowd by the way ;-) Also another off the possible rumour list just posted from the Polish website. Janusz Kolodziej has proposals to compete abroad, but instead will focus on driving Fogo Union. Seems he had offers from Sweden and other Countries but wants to concentrate on Polish EL side - their nursery track and also SEC and qualifying for SGP. Personally I see him as another K Buczkowski so would not have seen him as a good signing in the unlikely event Matt was even interested. One less to think about for any British team.

The Forum is all about opinions/rumour etc so how about these thoughts. Brady Kurtz - Love to see him back at Poole buy also to try and double up with Sheffield on his 7.65 Championship av. He was brilliant when he multi guested for Sheffield back in 2015 as it was a track that suited his style. He piled up countless double figure scores when he did appear. Add that to his appearances next year for Polonia Pila in Nice Polish Lge 1 (signed new contract for 2017) will also do his confidence and experience World of good. Also Sheffield regular race night is Thursday so no clash with Poole home matches and well away from Sunday's Polish meetings Jack P Blackburn - Ok so he has signed for his home track and first love Sheffield in Champ. Could he not also maybe double up as a 2 point rider with Poole ??. (Like a reverse B.Kurtz situation). Yes he will find it hard in some races but with the new PL format and points limit means there will probably be plenty of lower order riders incl by promoters with 4/3/2 point averages as they try to squeeze 7 riders in many with inflated PL averages. I am sure Jack would pinch points off quite a few and as he progresses also maybe off some of the so called established second strings. Also gives Matt Ford more room in top order. Max Fricke - Now I know Lisa banged me down on this one but here me out on the facts if nothing else. Max was World U21 champion by being most consistent rider as he did not win one of the 3 rounds. But his consistency won the title. Max rode well in Sweden and his team won the Elite League Max rode well in Poland and his team won the Nice Polish League 1 and were promoted to the Extraliga where he will ride for them in 2017 Max rode well in Denmark where I believe his team won the Danish league Max rode well for BV and they just fell short of winning the EL in UK. Ok an observation was made by Lisa he didn't do great at Poole last year. Ask yourself this. If he can ride well in 4 diff Countries and score well - win 3 league Championships - just fall short in the other plus be World U21 champion, what more can a rider do to show he is World quality, and to boot he is only6 months older than Brady Kurtz and will have just turned 21 in March 2017 when season starts. How many riders can profess such a CV at that age ??? Additionally I notice after I posted reservations about both BV and Leicester running in 2017 some soul/souls tweeted the BSPA asking if any update and the noises coming out of the BSPA are not exactly overwhelming other than talks are ongoing. If I was Matt Ford, I would try my best to get this lad in with the promise of a team place - guaranteed getting paid and good sponsorship also to hopefully ride alongside the likes of Jack Holder and Brady Kurtz meaning the majority of the Young Australia side together as what I call a Dynamic/Turbo Trio. If I was Max I know where I would want to go knowing the security of my club was assured and also a better chance than most maybe of winning the new PL. Also he has a decision to make. He can only ride 3 leagues now incl his home league now he is in Polish EL. Being an Aussie that mean UK/Poland and Sweden. He will have to give up Denmark meaning a possible hole in earnings on top of the uncertainty of BV and whether he would get a guaranteed pay cheque let alone if they will even run. Sorry for long post but all above my thoughts and opinions.

I see that C.Harris has just signed a contract with a Nice Polish league 1 side . Press release as flws on main Polish Speedway website: http://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/645542/kolejny-kontrakt-w-rzeszowie-tym-razem-byly-staly-uczestnik-cyklu-grand-prix You need google translation as I have it as standard on this website so I get automatic translation from my favourites when I open it. Bit surprised as thought he was fed up with Poland and fact they were had still not paid him for last season although diff team. So it seems that both him and S.Nichols will be doing some running around as he also signed for a club in same league. If one or either also double up for a Champ side in 2017 (as Chris for one has certainly stated as his wish) then I wonder how that affects a side such as Rye House who intend to try and run a fair amount on their traditional Saturday night. We know from the past that riders doing Poland on a Sunday have tended to miss plenty of Saturday meetings when they have clashed. Ok you can do Stansted/Heathrow - Poland on a Sunday morning but its going to be a bit gut busting if they do try to squeeze in PL/CH and Nice all in one week. Having said that I suppose both are slowly entering maybe the later stages of their careers from a racing perspective and who can blame them for trying to get as many meetings as possible. Also neither are tied to the constraints of the Polish Extraliga rules on max countries you can perform as Nice League 1 does not have such restrictions. Good luck to both as its good that we have another team in PL and geographically they are my closest team if not my first supported team. I still want them to do well as with the loss of Lakeside locally it left a hole.

I think Justin Sedgmen is one of those Aussies who has gone as far as he can in the sport. Hi is another of those Aussies who is a case of almost but not quite if you get my meaning. I don't want to see anyone lose out on the sport and I hope he at least gets a chance in the Championship which I think is his level. Was good for Edinburgh but falls short at top level (PL/EL) imo. I think he will struggle to get near 7.60 in a PL side. I think much will depend on how many sides we also end up with in PL. I posted my comments on the Poole 2017 site today and would not surprise me if only 7 or 8 sides start although sincerely hope I am wrong.

Yes you are right. Unfortunately I follow the main Polish Speedway website where they run things so differently. They manage to organise 3 leagues where the transfer and signing window is open for just 2 weeks - opens 1st Nov closes latest 15th Nov. Only exceptions being if say a Polish EL club releases one of its squad players to a loan to a Nice 1st/2nd div side for a season which can be done after the official transfer cut off date. Amazing how these guys manage to do it with riders all over the World in the close season even if some go down to the wire at last minute. A bit like the transfer deadline excitement you get on SKY football transfer deadline but in speedway form. The UK a lot different of course. Much weaker league with ever diminishing amount of big stars - new league/points structure indeed agreed only 2 weeks ago - A new Premier League which even as we speak we have no idea if it will really be 9 teams or maybe less - There is an uneasy situation surrounding BV and Leicester. There have been announcements they PLAN to run in Prem but will they and in what format ?? BV no idea who will be running for sure and on what budget. Will top riders want to sign up after the farce of last seasons finances ?? Let alone the uneasy future. Leicester supposedly have 2 poss but both have to meet a long list of requirements and rumour is they may only have Saturdays at home again which would seem to rule out maybe some of the better riders doubling up in Poland. After this what quality will they have in the side ?? Would not surprise me if we end up with 8 or 7 teams in Prem after all the talk is finished. I hope not and just airing my fears and opinion. I also do hope that Matt Ford ties up a decent sponsor after the loss of Readypower. That is a fair chunk of change at a time Speedway is going through an already tough period. Not many have 6 figures to throw around these days on a minority sport even if us minorities love it as I have done since my first meeting at Hackney Wick back in 1970 as a teenager. I suppose it also keeps the BS Forum hot with different views/opinions while all of this trundles on. If we had the Polish system, while it may be exciting for 2 weeks what the hell would we have to talk about if it was all done and dusted by today with still 4 months before we go racing again lol. My excitement of trying to have Poole riders announced asap (even in dribs and drabs) is getting to me.

I do hope that the lack of news on riders from Matt Ford is anything to do that at present the may not have a team sponsor ?? We know he has just lost his main sponsor who was putting in a six figure sum over the last 2 years. Even in his interviews he said was lookin for a new sponsor. If has has riders signed then why not announce. Do we really want to see his comments as today in the Echo about his fear of relegation ?? We know Matt is good at playing the media and announcing when it suits him for max media exposure, which fair enough and good for him. But just a niggle makes me wonder if he is holding back as he needs the major sponsorship money he has enjoyed in previous years before he can commit to any major signings ?? Hopefully not the case. Just hope he starts giving us something shortly to wet the appetite as cannot see how riders such as HA and BK let snippets leak out about possible returns yet nothing coming from upon high. Come on Matt - Give us something besides young JH and the non return of CH.

Try this one instead. http://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/645371/zamiast-anglii-bedzie-dania-andreas-jonsson-podpisal-kolejny-kontrakt Sorry the link is in Polish but I have Google translate on the whole website as this is by far the best site for up to date Speedway news. Even Chris Harris's move to Rye House was on their before midnight last night.

Cyfer - Despite riding for the top Polish team and will be 22 in May 2017 I believe, only achieved being 43 out of 51 classified riders in the Extraliga. On top of that he has been there as a junior for some years and now he's been dropped by Stal G as he is now a senior and they can't accommodate. Has had to drop to Nice 1st Division to get a team. Admittedly looking at his scores he did only get 3 rides as a junior rider per meeting but seemed very hit and miss with a number of points against inferior ranked or unclassified riders. However new PL is maybe equiv of Nice League ( PL if not worse in some cases). So may be more at home against inferior opposition in many races, although has the smaller tracks to also overcome/adjust. Also Extraliga racing is a different planet to even our old EL let alone new watered down PL. Just a niggle in my head wonders if he has any scope to improve having been so long at Stal and now not good enough for any Extraliga side now he has come out of junior stage. Having said that if he does get signed maybe he will thrive against many of the PL lower orders which suppose is what his low av will reflect. Could be a clever lower order move despite me wanting to have Drabik sign in a dream scenario. Anyway all of this is still pure speculation despite what some of those who reckon they are in the know are saying. However would be good news if KK is in the running.

Well it seems Andreas Jonsson has just announced he will def not be riding Uk and has signed instead in Denmark for Holsted. Makes perfect sense if you are a Swede based in Sweden and geographics make more sense. http://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/645371/zamiast-anglii-bedzie-dania-andreas-jonsson-podpisal-kolejny-kontraktAlso for those maybe not aware. This is the link to the announcement. I find this site more up to date on speedway news/transfers etc than the Speedway GP site on both international and UK news. Site also says no room for Nick Morris in his Polish Extr side and will be loaned out to a Nice league 1 side (if anyone will have him that is as most sides have already sorted their teams). Maybe also highlights how far down the ranking order UK is becoming in World Speedway. Having said that I do appreciate that UK needs major surgery just to survive. Well the new PL does as the old PL (now Champ) seemed to be doing ok. Means another World Star has said no thanks to UK. One less option for the Pirates to worry about. Not that they may have been interested ??

Now that would be a team I would gladly go to pay and see. A great mix of youth and experience. To throw a spanner in the mix. Even if Drabik was given a little more than 6 I would be prepared to swap Hampel for a revitalised and fit C.Harris on 1.29 points less. Reading a speedway GPrix post today he seems up for doubling up in British Prem and Champ, next year without the worry of minor appearances abroad and not getting paid. If he does get fitter and has an appetite there could be worse riders. Additionally if its about strength in depth you know he will ride his guts out for 4 laps. Knows most of the British tracks, and will not disappear off to the Continent as he has said he will concentrate his efforts on PL & NL doubling up only by the looks of it. Also I see his imput as big on young riders coming through. Again its an opinion. Maybe not an out and out number 1 any more but can beat anyone on his day and its about consistency from a rider who will try his best every ride. I think the $64,000 question is whether Drabik is even in the equation and if yes on what average. This is what this forum should be about. Sensible creative opinion even if people disagree with my and PooleBolton views which are purely coincidental as I only joined the Forum a week or so ago after a few years of viewing but cringing at some of the not so pleasant stuff that seems to fill the Poole Forum with volumes of unpleasantries at times. Airing opinions is good and what makes this forum worth visiting. However we should not allow it to get too personal as this is what its about. Opinions and interest in the sport long term.

If I was Maks I would like to ride,ride and ride some more after losing so much of 2015. He will ride Poland,Sweden and cld fit UK in as well which would give him that oh so important experience of riding smaller tracks which will benefit him for when he does eventually make it into GP etc. He would rebuild his strength and would do his confidence plenty of good as I see him racking up plenty of points against inferior competition in many cases. Wish I had the cheque book to sign the guy as would try to make him a priority if he was willing to come over. Poole are good at welcoming young riders as they have done with Chris H - Darcy W - Jack H - Brady K etc. Let's hope Matt can make such a move happen as with Jack - Brady etc I cld see one hell of a side plus room for experience if he also signs my idea of the hottest UK potential in Jack P Blackburn on a 2 point average.

If Poole were to pull off Maksym Drabik be it at a 4 or 7 point average then IMO they have signed the best young rider in the World. To me this guy is better than Piotr Pawlicki and may even be as good as Bartosz Zmarslik. BZ is 22 in April and MD will be 19. Considering he lost most of last season due to breaking his leg in about 3 places in Sweden I see this guy with immense potential. You only have to see his scores in 2015 plus how he slaughtered the young Aussies in matches between young Poland and Young Australia incl when he rode against them in Aussie on their home turf is enough to tell me the heights this guy is going to scale. If they got him under the radar on a low average then that will be one hell of a signing.

How about this for a theory - Max Fricke Considering the situation at BV which hardly clarified other than rescue attempts to try and insure PL racing in 2017, what would be in your mind if you were Max. If someone like Matt Ford approached and said trying to build a super side for the future based on young Aussies such as J.Holder - B.Kurtz plus him. The chance to have possibly a guaranteed future with the top rated team in UK (I am talking re fan base and security here). The virtual guarantee of getting paid, good sponsorship, and riding with the best future Aussie talent. Ok also throw in Jack P Blackburn as my idea of the hottest young UK talent andf it appeals even more. We could go from the turbo twins to the turbo trio. The thought of these 3 tearing up Poole and other tracks is mouth watering. For sure also would bring in the punters IMO wit the exciting racing. The good thing about this forum is the option to post sensible opinion. Maybe not such a crazy idea when you think about it

Rosco isn't stupid. He's been in this game long enough. He gets the arguably the best rider in the World at no 1 even if it does mean less options further down. That in itself brings punter thru the door and insures plenty of points in that slot. At least 5 rides and maybe 6 if they go 10 points down under the new rules. I think he may add Morris and then go for young riders with potential. As I have said on other posts. The league is not won in the first few months. Hang on in there in the top 4 if possible and give the fans an entertaining team with a proven star. Hopefully some of the younger riders will improve and let's not forget that many teams will also have weaker lower orders so I see plenty of points up for grabs even for young less experienced riders. These are difficult times which we have to accept and the main thing is to get good speedway with clever rider management being key plus investment in our own UK and overseas younger riders.

Notice a lot of posters are putting E.Perks at number 7 on 3 point av. In my opinion I would rather have potentially the hottest young property in British Speedway i.e Jack P.Blackburn on a 2 point average. This lad is only just turned 16 I think in September and look at his scores in the second half of the season in NL (his first real full season) compared to E/Perks. Also when riding against Perks who was on his 3rd season ?? You would gain 1 point to help top half and Matt Ford would be investing in arguably our best future UK talent. It would be a sound investment to try and purchase him as an asset, use him as number 7 with a more experienced reserve to help bring him on. Have him learn shed loads in the pits with more experienced and also young talented riders such as H.Anderson,J.Holder and B.Kurtz, plus also have him double up with a club in the new PL or even another season in NL. Invest in the youth in this Country I say. The same with Jack Smith who I rate similar but out of choice I would go with JPS.

I like the Jack P Blackburn addition. As Hans has let it slip in how he has replied to a tweet from a fan that he will be at Poole next year you can replace CH with HA and have additional points to play with. For sure a combination of youth and experience is the way to go. Let's also not forget the league is not won in the first months of the season. We want to see good racing with young riders gaining experience and getting better - plus qualify for the top 4. Finishing top does not guarantee you win the league as BV will confirm.

My view would be to sign both J Smith and Jack Parkinson-Blackburn at 6 & 7 both on 2 point averages. They are 2 youngsters going places IMO. That would leave you with 46 points to fill your boots. Yes there will be reverses in some reserve races but if we are talking about s so called bright new dawn for British Speedway then let's promote the youth (especially those with talent). I am sure that a stronger top order would outweigh the 2 inexperienced reserves and just think how the likes of JPB and JS would benefit long term riding with stronger established riders. It's not all doom and gloom if you view it from a different angle. 46 points would still allow you to employ CH his brother and other strong riders.

Someone with my line of thinking. Option 1 Even allowing for CH being half a point higher than you show, we know Woffinden won't be back but still with over 9 points to play with, there are options. Let's not dismiss J Smith and JPB who are 2 of the brightest long term talents we have. Yes there will be some reverses in reserve races but weigh that up with the massive experience these 2 guys would have riding with seniors plus the points that would be gained having 3/4 big hitters in many of the races plus the latter part of the meetings when there are 5 ride options in the last heat. Such a line up would also pull crowds in although would need a club with deep pockets such as Poole. I think too many people online are not considering these young 2 point guys. If this is all about the future of British Speedway then the clever and wise promoters should be looking to snap them up 1) For the long term benefit of the sport and 2) To give them the additional purchasing power for the top half of their teams. Think about it. 2 x top young GB riders x 2 points = 4 points leaving 45 points for the remaining 5 riders. Not such a daft idea in my opinion.

I agree and would also give us a chance to see how B.Kurtz and J.Holder perform against more established riders rather than last seasons Aussie champs when it just what was against old PL riders (M.Frick excluded that is). Problem is that most sides will be sorted by then probably.