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No surprise there as he was on his twitter asking for a lift as he had to drop a van off up there. Would indicate part of his visa/work permit may be resolved ?? but not his work permit. Only guessing as he may just have been given a visitor/tourist go ahead pending outcome of something more permanent (or not ??)

Sorry Tellboy but think you are right. I can only imagine that despite the Danes having priority racenight, Rob must have signed a contract that allowed him to only race when KL are not riding. He rode for Grinsted on 9/5 & 23/5 when KL were not riding and didnt ride for them on 2/5 & 30/5 when they were. I know the Danes have a kind of squad arrangement and it may well be that getting a rider of Rob's ability to ride some meetings (in a league which is much smaller in fixtures than our Prem) then it was better than none. But it doesnt detract from the fact that DK do have priority race night on a Wed. But of course Rob and his management team would probably have signed a contract that gave him priority to ride Prem when KL rode but allowed him to ride DK when KL not riding and also subject to not clashing with any of his National Tournaments like World U21 or anything like that. I think the Danes use a similar system to the Swedes where they can choose from a pool of riders as and when they need to.

Well if I am going to be then you can add meetings on for getting to the KO Cup Final as well. Nothing wrong in dreaming huh ??

Hi Starman Thought I covered that when I said UP TO 4 play off matches being the 2 legged semi and the 2 legged final. Although we should be so lucky But i remain of course ever the optimist.

Yes but thats individual promoters choice isnt it if they feel they wont have fixture clashes plus Ips/Sheff are also Champ so less likely to clash. Although some visiting sides could suffer of course. In case of Kl they surely knew that it cld clash in some cases in the cases of NKI and Lambert.

As I said in one of my previous posts in last hour. MAYBE Klindt has given up his DK contract to ride in Uk instead ??. Bearing mind he is based in UK and even with not a full season he would get at Poole 19 League matches plus up to 4 play off matches (If they were to get there) plus a min of one more KO Cup match. His DK side Holsted have ridden 4 matches - sit bottom on 2 points and probably only have 8 matches to go as don't see them making the DK playoffs. From a financial perspective it makes financial sense for him to swap for Poole. Maybe Holsted have been prepared to let him go ??. He has just finished his new garden as well in UK so no doubt the money will be welcome and doesnt have to step out of UK twice a week. Still riding in POL Lge 2 of course which he will keep as he is riding ok over there. More money as well probably even if it is POL 2nd Div. Maybe unrelated but on his twitter page today he is selling 2 engines from 2016 - £4500 total or £4200 if purchased together. Maybe his DK engines ?? Can't believe he is selling the crap he rode on for Workington of Fri & Sat. But then maybe he is.

Problem is Steve I don't know exactly how the rules work. UK is NOT supposed to race on a Wed as the FIM rule set out we were supposed to get priority only on a Mon/Thur. Its the promoters themselves who chose to implement their own race days outside that agreement in order to service their own needs/requirement. Just because KL chose to ride on a Wed (whether that be home or away) then I thought DK still had priority irrespective of riders nationality because UK dont have FIM approval to get priority. I hope I am wrong here as dont want to see UK Speedway deprived of its top riders. Would like someone to clarify for sure one way or the other.

A very good question which I raised on the KL Forum a week or so ago. According to my normal POL Speedway website which shows DK fixture, NKI team is not scheduled to ride but Lamberts team is. My questions were 1) Will NKI be fit again flwg his Op as would seem to me to be a bit early if its to help rectify his shoulder injury from last year. Honestly I don't know but he hasnt been in great form and maybe if he is taking it easy in recovering, then maybe this is a good a time as any to catch him not overdoing it. 2) The FIM set out that DK has priority on a Wed for League meetings with UK MON/Thur - SWE on Tue and the Poles get FRI/SAT/SUN. Now someone said - Yes but he is not a DK rider. My return was that if he has signed for a DK team they should get priority under the FIM rules. Thats why some riders have had to miss meetings in UK on a Wed for their DK team when it has clashed with DK on a Wed. I know the Danes tend to have a squad system and can rotate riders, but IF the Danes want one of their riders to turn up and ride on a FIM approved date then how does that leave KL. Its not the Danes fault that British Teams decide to flaunt the rules, which is kind of ok for Poole as they didnt have any rider clashes (other than now Klidnt, although he may have agreed to ride UK instead as more meetings due to DK League being smaller with less matches). Klindt would also save in commuting costs etc as he is based in UK with his family. In the case of Lambert I thought he lived in Germany with his Girlfriend ?? Didnt Lambert also sign late for KL after the FIM rules were agreed on racing dates and maybe after he signed his DK contract ?? Klindt may continue riding in some DK matches maybe ?? if they dont clash with Poole ?? I know it sounds a bit contradictory but had a few sources confirm the Danes get priority on a Wed. Didnt KL also lose NKI for at least one match due to this, maybe also Lambert couldnt ride in a meeting ?? It set the tongues wagging on the KL Forum but havent seen any clarification one way or the other.

I think patience is the key with these young riders. For example Bickley was only 16 in Feb where Bowtell also a N/L rider in reserve at Lakeside is 21. I reckon Kyle will be a way better rider than he is in 5 years. Yes they will get beat up regular in Champ but they will also ride against other youngsters and also still have the N/L as they find their feet in the sport. Points are important but I am confident based on what I say last night he will improve. Last night wasnt much between him and Bewley to be honest and Dan is also nearly 3 years older.

Well I was there as well. Amongst watching a good side hammer Workington i did go to check in on our assets ;-) Track looked good with plenty of dirt on it to encourage good racing. Yes its a technical track but it always has been. Hasn't stopped some good riders doing well on it over the years. Last night other than Proctor and new into reserve Mason Campton the rest were pretty dire. Klindt's biggest impression was his warm up routine in the pits. Plenty of arm swinging and seemed more like a Danish League match as was was having plenty of fun sitting with his Danish team mates and what looked like some DK pit crew. They seemed in good spirits which bode well for the night. Unfortunately for him and them it went downhill quickly against a fairly young/classy and enthusiastic Lakeside side. A team that encompasses all that I want to see at Poole - Exprerienced riders/Exciting young established talent/Up and coming young talent/Fairly new young talent out of N/L. Anyway I digress. First ride he was already behind when he fell - NOT an E/F Even Bowtell had kept him at bay until then !!!! Second ride he was with them into first bend but was third behind Morris and Zach W and it was already painful to watch - Third ride was an E/F. He made the start but was already behind when it happened. he was substituted in his 4th ride by reserve Mason Campton. If I didnt know differently I would have said he was dumping his Champ av to get a good conversion into a Prem side for next season but of course wont happen as on last nights performance he will have a low enough av at Poole. Bottom line is he was one of many of the away team who couldnt ride the track. Even Bewley only scored 3 from 5 rides and that was partly lucky as Morris broke the tapes in last heat so went back 15 metres. Still managed to get past Proctor who then packed up. Not the first time Bewley has not done well at Lakeside when in N/L was similar. As for our other asset. Newman had a paid max and did well although what should have been our other asset Ellis was his partner in 3 races and looked much faster. Was way ahead of Kyle by nearly the whole straight when his bike packed up. But Newman was good at mixing up with the away team to allow his partner to streak off for the win. Good in the team and was pleased to see Kyle going well. Has a never say die attitude which good for moral and seems happy in the pits. Managed to have a few words with Jon Cook while he was tucking in to what looked like a box of chicken and chips between races and threw in a couple of throw away lines about how Ellis seems a much improved rider and how Poole let him go. He said well they did have the opportunity to sign him as an asset. Didnt push it too far as didnt want to be seen asking to many personal questions. Newman for me looked a lot more committed than Klidnt, but perhaps Klindt will come into his own more on different tracks to Lakeside. He needs to as his last couple of meetings for Workington have been poor. All Workington's 3 Danes were poor. Obviously not a track to the Danes liking. Anyway let's hope we get a different Klindt riding for us. Like the one who scored a max in POL recently and also did some good points in DK.

Had the pleasure in watching Lakeside Hammer his club last night and he was dire to put it mildly. How this guy can ride a max in POL on Sunday and ride as he did last night is crazy. However the point is my comments are in ref to what he will earn at Poole (probably) compared to DK as he wont have all the commuting costs. Remember it was his poor Champ form that got him into Poole last season anyway on what many deemed a bargain av on the points conversion av Champ to Prem. Bottom line was he couldnt ride the track. Think he will do better at Poole. If not then Poole really do have a problem.

Wasnt leading us into multi exchanges for 2019. Was more reacting to comments about building a team around core riders who should be the main basis of your team going forward. For me the first 4 would be your ideal base and then build around it. Of course future league structure would play its part as would if say Woryna was to break into SGP would he want to come back to UK. Plenty of factors to consider. Of course this season is an important factor. But hopefully Matt can look at these 4 as his main stay of the team going fwd. Yep 2 meetings to go as acording to SGB website (in clause 16 of therukesI think it states) the 23rd is the last day of the month for qualifying av to be applied the first of the flwg month. Good news that as chances are maybe Klindt and Woryna in reserve berths for July ?? Thats my lot now off to see how out assets perform at Lakeside tonight ;-)

See Josh G has JUST scraped in to the POL Champ semi finals. I say just. He was fortunate to get into to one of the weaker quarter finals. God knows who planned these as their is one meeting with so many tasty riders in it, but suppose that must have been as the straws were drawn. He scored 7 from 5 rides and qualified in 8th after a run off against Czaja. Suppose its all about qualifying and it is his first real season over there so a lot of tracks new to him. Sure he will be pleased either way. Woryna comfortably qualified in 5th in his meeting with 10 points. The Pole who is not as good as he thinks he is i.e Gomolski is out as scored 7 points in same meeting in 9th but only one race win where Gala on same points had 2 wins. Having said that those above him compared to the Josh G meeting were as below. Think Josh was fortunate as he would never have qualified had he raced against this lot. P.S: Not copied over so well. Last 2 numbers are meeting total. Spaniak meeting jut started and scored 2 from first ride although opposition doesnt look much. If he doesnt qualify from that meeting in top 8 it would highlight just how bad his form is. 1 15 Dominik Kubera 3 3 3 3 2 14 2 6 Bartosz Smektała 3 3 3 1 3 13 3 8 Piotr Pawlicki 1 2 3 3 3 12 4 5 Tomasz Jędrzejak 2 3 2 3 2 12 5 10 Kacper Woryna 2 2 3 2 1 10 6 9 Paweł Przedpełski 3 2 2 2 0 9 7 2 Krzysztof Buczkowski 2 1 0 2 3 8 8 4 Adrian Gała 3 3 1 in 0 7

Come on they are not all like that but yeah take your point ;-) Hopefully your boy Mountain will do well.Hope so as want Lakeside to win but want both our Poole assets - Klindt and Newman also to do well. To heck - Just a good nights racing will do :-)

Yes but promotors such as Matt Ford knew season start he had no DK clashes as he didnt use Andersen or Klindt. KL used NKI and Lambert surely knowing they could lose for some matches if and when meeting clashed (dont forget DK is a smaller league though and they start later). If Chapman has decided to race Wed and also accepted other clubs fixture lists then he must have approved the possibility of losing some of his riders in such situations. As for Klindt at Poole then either there is a min fixture clash as he is resigned to start in under 2 weeks or he has agreed with his DK club to give up in favour of Poole as he is based in UK with his family - doesnt have all the commuting costs and gets more meetings in UK which must give him more than his DK earnings ??

One of the frustrations of being a Poole Supporter (by the way for many years) based near Chelmsford - Essex is that I don't get a chance to see them so much. A 3.5 hour drive is a bit of a ball breaker. Thankfully I didnt attempt it this week as would have seen my backside ;-) However that does not dampen my love for the Pirates or my enthusiasm for the sport. Having been pressing home my comments/thoughts re using these young N/L riders and having a combo of 2 of these under 20 in each side - add existing established young riders and top off with the experienced guys. (Not all these ultra expensive top/top riders based abroad). Well tonight I am more than happy to spend my £17 entrance fee for a meeting at Lakeside only 23 miles from where I live, where I will see the kind of Speedway I am trying to advocate partly. Firstly I get too see our returning asset N.Klindt - Hopefully will have a gating day at Lakeside as we know not an easy track - Also get to see another asset in Newman who dont expect too much from these days to be honest. Add into the mix experience such as Lawson/Proctor/Bach/Campton - add established young talent such as Morris/Ellis/Jensen and also exciting youngsters such as Bewley/Wajtknecht and topped up by youngsters who have been in N/L such as Mountain (Lakeside guest) - Bickley - Bowtell. Now that is certainly a well spent £17 entrance fee - Ok add £3 for the program but I dont give a damn as this is the mix of talent i want to see. A mixture of Experienced/Established good young riders/Young talent coming through. Maybe throw in a snack from the burger/hot dog/chippie van and a pint and its speedway utopia Who needs GP riders and it cost the promotors a fraction of the cost. Its nights like hopefully tonight that you think there's hope for the sport yet. Also no rain planned and I checked both BBC and Met office. Fingers crossed.

To me. Poole and Aussies in the main have been a good mix and that's where I think they should build the base of the team. My idea would be to use the 4 Aussies they can get immediate access to next season. IF Chris's visa/permit issue can be overcome that is, and surely we will know one way or the other on that score by the end of 2018. Kurtz lives in one of Middlo's at home apartments (or whatever you call it) and probably has bike facilities there. It worked for Darcy and so far has been good for Brady. Chris is near enough local and I thought Jack may live with him when in UK. That should be the real backbone of the team for 2019 in my opinion. Josh I am a bit uncertain as I know he lived way up North but now he is also a POL citizen will he be spending more of his time in POL ??? If he is then i question if he is a good backbone of the team factor if he is whizzing constantly between POL/Poole/His Northern base. Has this also been a contributing factor to his not so good UK form this season. Try flying UK/POL a couple of tines a week (as he was doing as he wanted to keep constant practice in an attempt to break into POL with his new POL Licence). I know top riders do some cross border travelling but its still a hike travelling country and journeys to & from the airports alone can be a pain in the backside let alone the flying. Factor in also travelling to your UK Northern based home. Think he had conditioned himself to the regular routine in UK of both Prem/Champ and always had home to go back to after meetings as plenty of his rides were in the North even when he was guesting. Diff Country commuting each week must take some toll even if he did give up Champ. Even then a down side as he is not racing on the track every 2/3 days like he has done well for years now. For me it should be C. Holder/B.Kurtz/J.Holder/K.Woryna (if Matt feels he could be the next Janowski - his comments not mine)/Josh G ?? and then add 2 others. For me going to keep banging the drum to factor in 2 N/L youngsters under 20 per team. Based on restructuring the League of course. You can maybe also factor in Klindt who although a Dane lives in UK with his family and will continue to be committed to the Prem/Champ (or one big league if it was restructured). In effect that MUST surely save money using plenty of your own assets as the only one you have to pay costs for riding in UK are for Woryna. The rest qualify as living/based here. Anyway as usual just airing ideas/opinion.

Assuming both would be replacements for say Spaniak/Josh G then I question if Matt really wants the addl expense of nett one Pole for the rest of the season. Matt must be hurting financially pretty hard this season with all that's gone on and meetings cancelled etc, so lets say its Woz. The cost of having say 2 bikes - engines - technical support - flights in and out - accomodation - wages etc. He is doing better since his swap to Gorzow from Leszno and seems to have improved his form so far in POL. Woz for Spaniak I would go for as he is a better rider than Gomolski. Problem is that assuming we keep Worrall and the rest of the team we only have 5.58 to play with (taking Spaniak out of the team with Klindt coming in). Unless of course Matt was planning to can Josh G which would fit him in. Matt may not be in a hurry as next meeting is 2 weeks time plus next cut off for GSA's is only 23/6 meaning he can use the current ones effective from today to work around. Footnote: Matts article in the Echo today shows how badly the Holder situation has hurt the club when you look at all of the assets he could have had available.

Hope the Club is not draining his personal situation Wouldn't surprise me the way the sport is going.

I hope for his sake he has as it takes some of the pressure off the income situ at Poole. I really do hope that something can be salvaged from the mess that is 2018 on the team front (incl the CH saga) - track front and the horrendous rain off front as that has had the main bearing on Pooles track issues. We need some fair weather - some team stability and a decent run of results to finish at least mid table. Anything else for me will be a bonus. I never predicted Poole would walk the League but like many, I never dreamed that such a team of POTENTIAL talent would bomb so badly. Anyway despite all the issues and problems still plenty of exciting racing available and hopefully positive team results. After last season thought we had enough problems & bad luck but this season trumps that (so far).

Difficult one to gauge. He's only 17 but in his 3rd season in N/L having ridden for both Cov and Plymouth in 2016/17 before Plymouth this season. Kemp has been a bit of a revelation and may have been 2nd/3rd in Brits under 19 final at Ipswich had he not had a retirement. But even so 10 from 4 completed rides for a 15 year old was still good. Kemp of course scored that crazy 21 point max a week earlier at Mildenhall and easy to get carried away expecting similar a week later. But remember he is only 15 in his first season, where even Atkins who may not be a World beater is in his third. But fair play to the lad he beat Kemp twice. Kemp did miss a meeting at Kent earlier in the week to do exams so maybe that was still on his mind. I was even going to go from my home in Chelmsford just to see him that night at Kent but my Wife wanted wining and dining that night. Good thing she did as only found out when checking the results he didnt ride and was scrubbed late due to the exam situ. With Jenkins also being injured previously at Birm it would have been the 2 exciting riders i wanted to see both missing. Wouldnt have been a happy bunny for sure :-) For me if Atkins is going to make it he is perhaps more of a slow burner looking at his scores even if he did turn over Kemp twice at Mildenhall last weekend. P.S: Kemp scored paid 18 max from his 6 rides at Plymouth 3 weeks earlier were Atkins scored only 9 from 5. Amazingly though they never met over the 11 races they competed in. Shame. Would have been interesting if as it seems Kemp was on fire that day at Plymouth.

Exactly. Even more reason for a rethink on how we construct our sport going forward after the end of this season.

Now you can see why Poole Bolton stepped out of the Forum with people like the Muppets kind of reply to a lot of his sensible posts. Interesting its another Ipswich Fan who comes in from the side with such a comment. At least Gavan has a good element of sensible input

Your user name probably sums you up. I dont care where he gets his income from. I am just trying to say that I can't see how our club can survive in its current format if it also has to finance a full time promotor as well as take all the hits its had to endure this season. Matt Ford over the years has done a brilliant job and most have viewed Poole as one of the most financially secure and successful clubs. I am just wondering how long it can continue as is if he doesnt have other biz interests to help him. I dont care what those interests are. My point being it all adds cost to a business gong through a difficult time financially. I may be wrong but i thought most if not all other Speedway bosses have other biz interests and Speedway is only part of that. If this is/was Matts main employ then it must be hammering him even more.

Flwg on from Skidders reply to yr question Me personally yes but my situation is not tight like some others. To me whether it is £18 or £15 doesnt matter. Perhaps for some it does. If I can get a decent fix with half decent riders i will pay for it. I would pay the same if i could get a chance to regularly see some of this young N/L talent coming through in conjunction with some of the other talent like the young Kurtz/Holder/Lambert/Woryna to name a few and in conjunction with some of the Champ riders, many themselves up and coming talent like Zach W - Adam Ellis (who also ride Prem). I still think we need to harness the young talent but also not totally lose those who have given us enjoyment over the years like Harris/Nicholls and others. I dont hold all the answers just giving my views. The future of British Speedway for me short term isnt these BIG stars. We cant in the main afford them and we can get plenty of exposure to them weekly on Youtube etc or if you want your big night out book Cardiff GP. Don't worry if these POL teams see a UK talent they will be on to it just like Rybnik have in a tie up with Bewley even if not in the team yet. They are advanced enough to know a good potential rider coming through. I still think there must be a way we can harness what talent we do have and present it in a way that we the speedway public benefit and also get exciting racing. Lets be honest the likes of Holder Jr/Kurtz/Woryna and many other young riders will still have their bloopers as they learn their trade with or without the Doyles/Holder Srs/Vaculiks/KK and others you may want to name. Hence why i keep banging on about taking the N/L talent (let them keep there N/L teams but work around it to get a couple into each Prem/Champ team) add these established young rider and a mix it in also with established riders in the Prem/Champ (Many who double up anyway). If not I really fear for our sport.