Sidney the robin

More house's will be built but touch wood the speedway will still be aloud to continue.My take is as long as there is still speedway to go to twice a month i am more than happy the new stadium great IF????? it happens but i am happy to plod on with the tired old version.That is why if they can get the new shape of the track right good racing can develope again and that might compensate a little towards having to put up with a tired old stadium.

Tell you something Steve i never ever thought that a bigger track would deteriorate as much in a short space of time as the Abbey has.I believe the straights are to big for the bikes now and if this track is shaped on the Somerset model it has to help to provide better racing.

Great stuff Grachan, that track needed reinventing the racing generally has been dog poor for along time now.As Speedy Pete says if the entertainment level can go up the crowds can stay healthy and we are still well supported generally and i am convinced we can get a gate between 12/1400 most weeks fingers crossed anyway.

If it does end in tears so be it, no good worrying about it it is out of the supporters hands, me personally i am just grateful we still have some speedway to watch in 2019.As time goes on i am more hopeful that the club might still have a future because to be honest i thought it might be over by now all the fans can do is support the club while it is still there.

A really good post and the case you put is a pretty strong one actually Falcace you are one of the few people who really have recognised how good Sigalos was.

No,Steve if you have the Lee DVD there rivalry was outstanding lee beating Penhall from the back at Gothenburg in 1980 and in a World Cup round in 82 at Kings Lynn. ,..

Totally understand Sam thanks for that no i am passionate about certain stuff but i do respect what other people have to say.Chunky god i respect what he says always have done just got the vibes that he was getting chopesy and does not respect anything i say.

Your tone is not good yet you twist it around to make me look the villain.Your opinion is sound and i respect it i dont get the same vibes from you just saying.

You knock me but boy you have a huge chip on your shoulder is there any need for this childish remark.??? Your opinion i respect but i dont see that coming from you oh well i wont lose any sleep over it.

Not offended Steve not one bit you put a great case across i would not of named Collins in amongst them after 1977 because his hopes of winning another title had gone.

My case for Billy is as sound as yours was for Sigalos ( who i rated highly as well.)You said Sigalos until his untimely injury was ahead of Nielsen/ Gundersen really?? Sigalos was not really in the hunt in the 1982 final and at Norden he was bang average so my point is Sanders was at least on a par with him all ifs and but's i know.

He will go because there working relationship has been so good over a long period it will never be quite the same with another party.Ford/ Middleditch have been great for Poole speedway and it will be a hard act to follow.

I can't disagree with that.

This is one of the craziest posts i have read the bloke has already been on the rostrum twice is odviously improving yet you basically class him as a also ran.Did you actually see him ride in the last two years of his life live chunky? because if you had you would definitely recognise that he had improved one hell of a lot.

Lee said Penhall was the one guy that kept him motivated and on his toes and was the rider he always had to beat.

Do yo remember Sam??? check the head to head records from the start Lee was the boss over Nielsen and Gundersen and Carter did very well to.Sanders/ Sigalos were players but fringe players.If Penhall had hung around he would of won more titles as well and Penhall keeping Lee motiavated would of changed thing's. Nielsen/ Erik were great riders but there competition dwindled and the era ended up falling on its feet.

He wasnt in a bad place racing wise Falcace, he was doing great and really going forward in his career.His personal life who knows what was going on but those two years up until his death he really was maturing.Also you were a huge Sigalos fan like myself i believe Sigalos was a class act yet Sanders was on par with Sigalos easily.Norden 83 Sigalos disappointing Sanders placed and there is a arguement. that Billy should of been HARDER on Muller in 83 when he had every chance Siggy was pretty poor in Norden..Also 85 if Sanders had got there Bradford would of been fine for him he would of loved it.My point really Falcace is with Penhall, Lee, Sigalos, Carter, gone it really opened up nicely for the three danes including Knudsen as well.

I think so he was really believing in himself and as Ivan and Hancock have proved age is no barrier.

All that hard graft and dedication he put in coming over here from the age of 16 wasted.I loved watching him ride Steve and that is coming from a avid Crump snr fan.

I think in his last year up until his death he was averaging around 11.50 ish and in the World Pairs at Gothenburg excluding the fall he was outstanding ironic that Guglielmi was his partner.

Sanders had not peaked in my opinion he was just approaching it the two years before his demise he really had upped his game.

Last year apart from Poole do you recon the average gate was between 11/1300?In Leigh's later years i recon the average gate was between 13/1600 since his retirement i recon we have lost between 2/300 fans.

Got there at 6 in the morning and the weather was horrendous i thought the meeting was a certainty to be called off.The track i loved the shape but the racing did not hit the great heights it should of done.I went believing Lee would win but things were set up for Egon and he was a deserved winner. For the last 3 months of the 83 season Lee for me was the best rider in the world and to say that in a mega era with Nielsen, Gundersen,Sanders, Carter, Sigalos takes some doing.

Price would have to be ahead of Loram/Havelock Gavan if you are going on the roll of honour??if not why no Farndon /Jack Parker/ Langton.? Freddie as well but he was Welsh.It is Impossible to compare to be honest , Lee is certainly the best English rider i have ever seen yet his record does not show it the facts dont lie and i hope Tai goes on and wins 7 titles.

I was very disappointed with Siggy in the 1982 Final but as you said he had not reached his peak yet and should of had a decade in front of him.In Norden again i expected Dennis to be right in the mix challenging Lee/ Muller yet again he disappointed again. The ability was there to be a World Champion he was good anough but injury ruined that he was certainly a notch ahead of Les Collins in my opinion.