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Uncalled for Steve to be honest damn right nasty, i have respect for every rider who has the guts to go out on track you odviously don't feel the same.

Spot on Ian was in the Boothroyd / Booey mode great team men. I never see Boothroyd ride but he was proud man who i really admired as a rider and promoter he did a great job over the years with his wife who helped time alot over the years.

What about Kenny ? i have plenty of pictures of Ian/ Kenny together.

Ask him Steve about the test match in Vojens i am sure Ian rode for England there in a test match?? .Ian's career was really strange went from being a good heat leader to a real top rider reached the Overseas final at White City and made real progress i think he had a successful furniture business hence the reason of a relatively early retirement.

What the hell are you waffling on about? my point was out of that crowd the other night how many were freebies?.As i have benefited quite alot over the years i would be a hypocrite to say Speedway should reduce the free passes.

I did that often but often got in free with Malc Holloway more so on away meeting's.

Loads of freebies but i can't be a hypocrite, i have benefitted from that an awful lot over the years maybe they need to change that.

389 out not to bad eh!! i had to many babysham's i think, you were 511 out !!!!! hardly a hanging crime.

You are one of the best at predicting crowds and that is a healthy crowd, great stuff the club deserve it they have worked hard.I go everyweek really looking forward to it i haven't done that for a very long time.Grachan was right it was more lively last night and hopefully it will continue that heat 13 Doyley move unreal will have to buy the Belle Vue DVD to see it again.

I have to say Grachan the crowd levels have been concerning recently, you did mention this the worrying thing about this is the entertainment level has been very good some great racing.

Good point i loved the old British final, but just think Tai riding would really boost our event and i am not a Tai basher i love to see him ride.

So?? ask Scott Nichols if the British title is worth winning.?

I cant remember Barry Briggs missing many British Final's and he was a New. Zealander.Ok then the British Final was an awesome meeting meant something but this passion thing i dont see it.

At Swindon it seems to be the opposite Waytogo28 the promotion are trying everything to get new blood to go, and the racing has been very good the best for years.

I only had two babycham's last night as well !!!!maybe you are right the crowd is spaced out more pretty misleading which is great the racing also is getting better by the minute chuffed to bits with the track.Heat 13 was unreal i thought Doyley was heading for the burger van really went wide headed for the fence then ripped by Fricke on the straight.

2000???? no chance you usually get that for Poole or play/offs the starting gate side is nowhere near as packed as it used to be.Where i was after heat three on the old cheap side yes the numbers have gone up alot there but 2000 really?? hope you are right though.

A good solid Swindon performance and some good racing again Bewley's pass of Doyle in heat 10 was terrific and heat 13 was out of the top drawer.Musielak really does look classy and if we make the play offs we will scare alot of teams the double could be a possibility.???Maybe i am wrong there are more people watching over bends 2/3 but i thought the crowd was not the best i recon about 1100.

Yes Woffinden has every right to earn and ride wherever he wants to and fair play to him.But he cant make out he is as passionate about his country for me he has not shown that.Cant be bothered to do the British Final ( we could even seed him through) he has let us down as well in the past by not riding in other international meeting's.Why does he expect to be able to call the shots for me he has not earned it.Look he is a great rider but he still is nowhere near my alltime greatest top 10 riders ever.

As you know the England team manager's job now is not an attractive one Rossiter has no say on anything apart from team matters.A honest question to you what has Woffinden done for British speedway since becoming world champion.????

A great post and alot of it is totally right until speedway in the UK all pull in the same direction (ie) why are the league's seperate?? i cant see alot changing to be honest.

Totally agree but not all will be as good as Drew and. some will have there confidence shot to pieces after a while.Also at NL level an example young Wirtzfeld at the IOW already in the top five and Wildman at reserve that is not right changes need to be made.

Fricke is a level above and he now is genuine world class.

Drew Kemp is a prime example of what you are talking about Gazc , he has dug in really well in the top five .When really he should of been a second reserve all year learning his trade i was chuffed with his U21 WTC performance at Belle Vue.

So you are looking short term???? myself i am looking to the next generation's where do they come from.??? Last year we did well with just Woffinden/Lambert was Rossiter crap then? This year without Woffinden were you really expecting much we need to get real.Even when Woffinden is fit he also is not unbeatable he needs more than just Lambert for support but who is next in line can you name them.?

I hope the lad stays and gets a long prolonged run Jenga, because he has made huge strides.My point about the vulnerability of young riders who have a certain average is that teams that often have strong top fives often have a vulnerable rider in the 1-5 or one who is expected to be the senior reserve.