Sidney the robin

Totally agree with you on most points Ove , but for me personally individual racing all of the time would bore me .Your main point is spot on about the team riding aspect disappearing yes that has gone there is the odd race that happens and you think hey that was just like the good ol days.!!!!! The series is on once a fortnight and that is anough for me i am not really a converted fan of the series so my hope for the future is to try and make all league racing in the UK more enjoyable.

Individual racing in yesteryear was fine, but now apart from the odd meeting the market for that type of format on a regular basis has long gone.As much as the.level has dropped in the UK most fans still enjoy league racing i certainly do.I for one would not be happy with limited meeting's and just individual meeting's.I would rather have a lesser product clubs running and being prudent and only paying out what they can afford.

Yes Plechanov can be named amongst Adams,Harrfeldt, , Jessup ,Sigalos,Warren as riders who were all good anough to be World Champion.

I only see Ronnie ride 4/5 times yet like yourself he left an impression on me a superb stylist who didn't look the quickest but boy his track craft was second to none.To think he had the six year lay off until 1969 yet came back to ride at a really high level.And really his time was the mid 50s both Briggo/Ivan said he was a better rider than both of them and really that says it all.On you tube the DVD of Wimbledon shows Ronnie beating Ivan at Plough lane never tire of watching that race Ronnie totally controlling it .

Addio i actually think that to keep sticking at it like Jason did took some doing he was often playing second fiddle to Ricko.. His consistently over a long period was superb and i can also remember in his younger days he was a bit of a hothead and not flavour of the month with everybody.But how he ended up being a complete professional a superb example to young riders and he went out at the top.Going back to Young do you think Jack was similar to Ronnie Moore Addio??? Mirac never took thing's that seriously but what a rider he was his legacy will live forever.

Those few months he rode for the Robins however brief was a real privilege he was so quick great from the back.However brief the stint was, for me he goes alongside Briggs, Crump x 2) Ashby, Kilby, Broadbanks, Adams, Autrey, as one of the best Swindon riders that i ever saw.The Speedway world were robbed of seeing Darcy fulfill his mega potential i just hope whatever he is doing now in life he is happy.

Ward i had the pleasure of seeing him in his stint with the Robins, what a talent he was he had mega abillity.

Collins if fit probably would of won that final, for me Lee in 77/ 79/83 could of won another three world titles.

My greatest football memories were watching those great early 1970s teams of Leeds Utd play.There were a great team but in reality underachieved badly they were on quite alot with Keith Macklin commentating.Then after that those great Sir Bobby Robson Ipswich sides Sir Bobby was years ahead of his time he helped mould Cooper,Burley,Mills,Beattie,Mariner and my favourite Eric Gates he was a legend of a manager.That masterstroke of selling Brian Talbot for a huge fee and then getting in Muhren/Thyssen Muhren was one hell of a player even when ageing he was some player for Man Utd great days great football.

Great stuff Norbold , did you ever see Young ride as a division 2 rider.?

Remember Carter refering that Muller was on an illegal machine, how many laps did Egon get to do at Norden before the final. ?

Yes remember him doing all the Midland games when it was Wolves Billy Wright also co commentated.

The rain !!!! it was p.s ...g down when we got there at 6am in the morning.I can remember seeing locals eating raw fish with the heads still on grose.The track i quite liked but it was not a great meeting to watch one moment stuck in my mind from that meeting was that Sanders should of been mega tough on Muller in there meeting he wasn't the rest is history.

Tony Gubba did the 1978 BLRC championship at Belle Vue in which Olsen won, Gubba for me like Brian Moore , Gerald Sinstadt , Gerry Harrison, Keith Macklin were all sport commentators that i liked.

Totally agree Steve even the great Chris Harris win at Cardiff was not the same as all of my Wembley visits.I think mainly it was so special for me because i went with my dad ( who was not a fan). To spend time with him was special usually overtime stopped my dad doing much with me over the years i can still remember dad prounoucing the great Ivan MAUGER rather than MAJOR.

Not easy Steve he rode a faultless line against Ivan, such a shame Barry gave Bernie the bolt that hole on the inside to exploit.For me though it was a irresponsible move and he should of gradually moved through on the line not bulldoze his way through like he did.I think Barry to this day has never forgiven Bernie for that crazy move.

I believe Swindon have been quite lucky as there crowds for me have held up well .Last year entertainment wise was the best year's speedway i have seen there since the GREAT Leigh Adams days.You are right though i do believe more people now pick/ choose there meeting's and the biggest disappointment last year along with Lee Kilby was the crowd for the NL fixture and youth meeting.I would love NL fixtures to be a part of Swindon speedway but i no it is just not viable such a shame.

Would Muller even on a monster of an engine ever of won a final outside of Germany i have my doubts.In 1983 you had to be there to witness how dominant he was on the day he destroyed a very good line up.

Who do you think was capable of toppling that top four from 1970/79 Iris. ???

I saw both Crump (snr) and Adams for all there Robins career and it really is a close one for me Phil just edges it.I just think if Phil had put that Streety conversation away for one night he might have been World Champion.For me outside Mauger, Olsen,Michanek,Collins, from 1970 until 1979 T.Jansson, P.Crump, Autrey,Jessup , Lee were the only riders who might of gatecrashed that top four and become champion.

Great post thanks for making the effort Ben, i for one would be willing to see a lower level of competition if i had to.Speedway is four riders in a race that are of all levels you don't need four champion's in a race to entertain us i have seen that at NL level.Are people who could not stomach a real drop in quality die hard supporters?? i think not some people think speedway is an expensive night out yet people are willing to pay 20 pound for a pizza.

So annoying Steve the late great Bob Radford lent me a Polish version of the 1972 final and it had the Briggs v Mauger clash on it.As you commented the ITV coverage?? never showed it crazy when you think back.I am convinced Briggs would of won that meeting but my heart tells me that Olsen was the best rider on the night but he made a huge mistake and he didn't make many over the years ( he did bring Ashby off once ) Thinking back Wembley was not much of a track really but the atmosphere was electric i saw a European Final there in 1974 Collins won the meeting and that was a super night full of drama as well Lovaas qualified i think.

Boring times for all of us at the moment and to be honest i cannot see any speedway happening in 2020.So i have been cracking on with my speedway memorabilia and i have just finished completing a collection of Crump ( jnr) Crump (snr) Adams, Sanders, Young. What order would you place these legends in a very difficult call it would be interesting to hear people's views.Gustix, maybe?? could of been the one of a few on here who saw Young ride. My top five order would be 1.Crump ( jnr) 2.Young 3.Crump (snr) 4.Adams 5.Sanders.

I was a fan of Bernie until that fateful 1972 night, he cost Briggo his fifth world title i recon Barry would of scored 14 or 15 that night.

I think this post is spot on if this had be implemented i am sure Rye House would still be around.