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How can Cook be charged with being responsible for the brawl. He reacted to what the steward did, yes I agree. But surely what then happened is a result of those that over reacted to what they perceived as being a deliberate act, which it wasn't. As I suggested in an earlier post Eastbourne officials and volunteers and spectators are not blameless in what was a successful attempt to wind up and intimidate Glasgow riders and fans.

For those that are still saying what they saw etc this looks like the definitive version of what happened at the parade. One additional question did the Eastbourne promotion advise the Glasgow team manager what was required of the Glasgow riders and the procedures used at Eastbourne for the parade?

I think I'll leave it there, just with all the mixed reporting from various sources and the apparent wish to hang draw and quarter Cookie I was falling into legalistic mode. Edited to say I'm not saying Cookie is blameless but am trying to understand what happened factually and what led up to it and why.

It isn't a criticism of you but you responded 'I imagine' it was the Glasgow mechanics. You were there and you are now confirming you don't actually know for certain but are basically assuming it must have been them.

We can all imagine, the Glasgow fan Tyretrax and I'm sure lots of others would like to know from all the eagle eyed fans who were at the match and witnessed everything so clearly, who actually pushed off the Glasgow riders. And whilst I am at it who from the Eastbourne promotion advised the Glasgow team manager of the procedures adopted at Eastbourne during the grand parade. As someone has already acknowledged all tracks are different.

Jenga and Loose Diamond separated at birth, discuss.

Sadly yet again you are unable to read and interpret a sentence. I said our track staff prepare a track to provide entertainment and my god they generally do. I didn't say we don't care about winning and I didn't say we don't prepare our track to suit our team. Re the 4th bend numpties that's no way to talk about fellow monarchs fans but I know who you mean. Re heavy handed stewards we treat all numpties the same, you can't stand on or view from the passages and steps painted yellow during racing - simple.

Not spiel it was said by someone at the match on one of various threads. You clearly aren't busy so will let you troll the various fora and Facebook pages

We get it Richard still a pity you can't acknowledge what the neutrals and sensible Eastbourne fans are saying. You'll be on the side of those that thought Eric Cantona should have a lifetime ban or even longer.

We will see. Remember two of the reasons Richard left, with our best wishes, are no longer an issue.

Thing is Richard likes us and the Glasgow fans love him and he would really like to be riding on a speedway track but currently needs must, just saying. Now if Cookie gets a ban and with our millions hey its not rocket science

Sorry couldn't resist - we could always cancel Richards loan deal with you

Thank you

look its time we all went back to work. So to try and make it clear I have at no stage said that Craig Cook wasn't out of order and perhaps he will be findd, banned, lose his job, quit speedway , who knows. BUT things happen for a reason and reading all the posts on here and elsewhere and especially from Glasgow fans at the meeting others are NOT blameless and that needs to be taken into account as well. Good evening and once again well done to the Eatbourne eagles riders.

No idea. By the way how did the bandits do tonight hope that beat the pesky bears.

Where have I said it was all Eastbourne's doing. I said that the Glasgow promotion will have learned a lot and that there way of promoting and organising a speedway meeting will not necessarily be the approach adopted by others. And that this includes the need to ensure that in future riders are not intimidated or got at by the actions and behaviour of opposition promoters, staff and fans.

And everyone else walks away scot free (see what I did there). How about announcer being fined. Jon Cook losing his licence, the track staff member ejected from the stadium given a life ban.

Certainly a post from Mike Butler above makes reference to the announcer - see below

Good manners has never ever hurt anyone - memo to Jon Cook.

What a load of tosh. What the Tigers management will have learned is what a good track preparation team they have, what a good professional announcer they have, what a good set of fans they have who applaud opposing riders for there efforts. The Tigers reputation is earned by the product they put on at Ashfield - riders, staff, volunteers and fans. The team have tried to entertain on there travels on a variety of tracks, surfaces and shapes. We lost tonight - most Glasgow fans predicted it including myself - so well done to the Eastbourne riders and I stress the riders. Reading various posts the promoter, track staff and announcer don't appear to be blameless and some of the eagles fans should be ashamed of themselves. Tonight the Tigers management also learned another approach to speedway as they were up against an old hand in the promotion game - he made sure that the track, the track staff and the fans got into Tigers riders heads. So the owners will have also learned who coped with the aggravation and intimidation and who didn't. They should now ensure that the riders be made aware that these things happen and other teams will produce crap tracks and all the other things that can influence a result and learn to stay focussed and deal with it.

I take it you're having a nice night with Jenga

Apparently the track is fine. Eddie Kennett has just fallen. Hopefully he is OK. As did the tracks fine Bowtell

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What are you doing why aren't you out enjoying yourself or working rather than watching a Speedway forum