Barney Rabbit

Whilst exiled up in Yorkshire I regularly watched CL racing at Scunthorpe, Sheffield and - my favourite venue after Peterborough - Buxton. I've also been a regular at Mildenhall since returning home. I found most of the meetings enjoyable and, at Buxton especially, I've seen meetings raced and completed in conditions an EL rider wouldn't even consider taking his bike out of his van in. I also enjoyed Pumas matches back then - winning the Championship at Stoke pleased me just as much as any of the EL/PL Championships. If that's where Panthers operate next year, bring it on, I'll be there.

Confirmed. Red button, SS1.

Excellent as always. Thanks.

Excellent as always. Many thanks.

As you say, a 'racing incident'. Both could claim to be wrongly excluded for the actual incident, but one fell, one didn't. The fallen rider caused the stoppage. IMO, the ref got it right.

Nice one Kenneth. Now let's see that sort of form in EL matches.

OK, cheers. Never thought of looking there as I didn't think wild cards have anything to do with the price of tickets.

Can anyone tell me who the wild card is for this GP please?

Thanks DW. Excellent, as always.

Thanks DW. Excellent as always.

QUOTE (Robbie B @ Jul 20 2009, 09:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> My Sky + HD box recorded the speedway OK even with the overun of the programme. My Sky+ box seems to do what it wants to do. Previously, my recordings have been OK when others posted their recordings had cut off at the scheduled finish time but yesterday mine decided to shut off when your's didn't. Seems very hit and miss to me. Fortunately, by the time I got round to watching it last night and finding out it hadn't recorded the whole programme, the break co-incided with the Sky re-run at more-or-less the same spot so I saw it all. Mrs R and I would not have been happy bunnies if we'd missed that finish!

Thanks very much for the race cards. Accurate, and easy to use.

Mine arrived this morning.

Just this minute come off the phone after ringing See-tickets. I was told the tickets have only just been printed! Querying this, I was told that details were received from the promoters earlier today (whatever that means) and they (See-tickets) prinred them straight after. They will be sent out tomorrow or the next day, but if the tickets haven't arrived by Saturday, to ring them and they will arrange collection. I was going to ask why they sent them out so late and how do you go on if you're on holiday and are taking the event in as part of it, but there seemed no point since I was told they'd only just got the info from the promoters! (Or was that just to stop me asking or having a go at her?)

Many thanks for the excellent race cards. They are well set out and very easy to follow.

Does the same not apply to Nicholls then? Surely he had had just as many rounds to get sufficient points to automatically qualify and shouldn't have needed to knock another rider off in a run-off to get the job done. So yes, the finger can be pointed at Scott for Chris not being an automatic starter in next year's GP. Anything that had happened prior to that run-off is irrelevant to the issue in question - Nicholls' move on Harris that ended up with one of them on the deck.

You may be right, but this is hardly a falling out at work of the usual sort. Chris should now be able to relax, having secured his GP place for next year. Instead, he has got to sweat on whether or not he gets in with a nomination. If he does, he will ride with the knowledge that he isn't in the GP's by right - think it doesn't matter? Ask the riders. It's also possible that, should he fail to qualify again he may not get a nominated place because he has already had one. I wonder who he will blame this on, the ref? Well, it wasn't the ref that knocked him off of his bike.

You have missed the point of my posting. It was just a frivolous bit of band-width wasting. Sorry.

It was a cynical move, diving into a gap that wasn't there, deliberately engineered because he was on his way out of next year's GP series, and there was no way that Hans/Nicki was going to........Hang on, wrong rider, it was Scott Nicholls. It was a typical racing incident, nothing malicious, just both riders going for the same bit of track. If Bomber doesn't get the expected nomination for next year, it will all be the ref's fault because he didn't stop the race and exclude Scott for being the cause of the stoppage. Except it wasn't the ref who knocked Bomber off of his bike.

Hans Andersen says what most people are thinking and gets slagged off for it. Stekkers says the same thing when interviewed (between heats 20 and 21 I think) and nothing is said. Some folk will jump at the slightest chance to have a go at Hans, even when there's nothing to have a go at!

Commentators can comment on Walasek's 'injury' and other posters can mention it on here without a reaction but as soon as Hans mentions it he's spitting his dummy out! Balinski's four points won the WTC for Poland and his inclusion was iffy - why shouldn't Hans be allowed to mention it?

Fine....in theory! BUT, would it be a viable proposition for some of those clubs Sean? I suggested this on a thread in the Conference League section a couple of months or so ago and was informed that this could result in Buxton being unable to operate. So I think you might be right Bryn!

Something I haven't seen mentioned is that the T/S rider's (the one that starts 15 metres back) points are also doubled so a team taking a hammering can score NINE (not shouting, just emphasizing) extra points. There's scope for some tactical riding there, especially for the bonus point, or aggregate win in cup competitions.

I was just after clarification because double T/Ss were allowed before and there is no mention of no double T/Rs now, just no T/R and T/S in the same heat. Thanks for clearing that little point up.

Thanks for the explanations. So a TR can be taken in Heat 14 (I can see quite a few of these happening). One thing that you ( or most probably the rules) don't mention is can both riders in one heat be nominated as TRs, giving a 10-1 heat win if they come first and second? If so, it would allow a team dropping eight points behind after heat 13 to try this. A first and second would give them a one point lead going into heat 15 instead of a four point deficit.