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Thanks for that, but looking at the cloud direction it's heading your way, I hope not, but I'll have to make a decision about travelling later and take a chance with the traffic round the M25 in the rush hour

Any weather updates from someone near the track please. I am about 50 minutes drive away in East London and its hammering it down here and has been for the last hour with no signs of stopping. I was looking forward to going to the meeting tonight but at the moment am not holding out much hope of it not being called off

Thanks for reply. I'm not very up on the in's and outs of the visas but after reading the following 2 comments in an earlier post "Surely Holder would have permanent residence by now? Or worst case get a visa for Poland/Sweden and base himself there, and travel back to the uk on a regular basis to see his son?" and "I would imagine he would have a helluva lot more red tape to get thru in both countries compared to the easy ride so to speak he has here to get his visa here" Which got me thinking as to whether their British Visa covered them for various countries.

If they both lose their British Visas for the rest of this season as they are no longer employed here does that mean they won't be able to finish their seasons in Poland/Sweden as well?

Its about time Promoters/Managers got down to doing their jobs and riders got down to riding. There has to be some sort of organisation, obviously with a bit of discussion, but if everyone went to work in any type of job and said "I dont fancy it today" and the boss says "OK" chaos will ensue. Like it or not someone has to be in charge. My personal opinion is that only the Referee should be able to call off the meeting, If its been raining for days and the track is waterlogged/unridable due to weather conditions the Promotion should call the BSPA and ask for an official to inspect the track, or at the very least send photos via email for an official to look at, or if it has been raining during the day of the meeting when the Referee arrives he should make the decision. I appreciate riders and many fans have to travel long distances to meetings but if the weather is that bad us fans do have some common sense (sometimes more than the powers that be) and can make our own decisions. The riders unfortunately will have to accept late call offs as part and parcel of the job that they do. Clear lines must be drawn between employer and employee for everyones sake.

If it turns out to be correct any thoughts on who he will be replacing

As Holder is listed as riding tomorrow either it's a misprint or something very dodgy going on. It will be interesting to hear fans views if it turns out to be the later.

Eddie Kennett just signed for Poole

I chose not to go to Swindon last night and went to Ipswich instead to have a look at Sedgmen. He scored 5+2, beating no. 6 & 7s I think, but he was way off the pace. My thoughts of him riding for Rye "Oh dear oh dear". As for Rye finishing 4th in the league, after last night's result and our new look team - no chance without divine intervention. My next 2 transfers would be Sedgmen and the Manager.

When he won the meeting for Kings Lynn at Poole he could have been saying to Matt Ford "Look what you've lost I'm the best rider round this track and you got rid of me"

Batchelor appeared to be injured again in heat 15 when guesting for Swindon last Monday so perhaps this time he really has a genuine excuse not to ride.

And yet again Troy Batchelors points tonight for Swindon show just how stupid the rules now are. If a guest rider is needed they should not be riding in a club in the same league. I know this will mean having a rider who is from a lower league and not doubling up but at least there won't be a conflict of interest as has happened tonight at Leicester.

I just hope Rye can do what Poole did last week, keep themselves to themselves, keep out of any controversy, ride the track be it good or bad and pick up a few away points. I was intending to go but after what went on last week I will now follow it on the updates and probably go to Swindon on Thursday. Seems by not addressing this issue properly KL may have shot themselves in the foot as far as fans are concerned by sweeping it under the carpet and hoping it will blow over.

It's fair enough for riders to be asked their opinion of the track if there are problems/weather issues etc but in my opinion it should be down to the Referee to call off a meeting if there are problems. There are 14 riders at each meeting and they could all find different issues relating the track that is not to their individual like/style of riding, you can't please all of the riders all of the time if you try to do that there would be no speedway meetings anywhere. Yes it is a dangerous sport but the riders themselves signed up to it no one forced them so they should accept that it is up to the Officials to run the meeting and it is the riders job to ride. After travelling and paying to see a Speedway meeting that is what most fans want to see.

If a rider does receive a 28 day ban does that stop him riding abroad and in GPs or does it only apply to British League?

Let's hope Ellis doesn't do what Chris Holder did for KL at Poole last week and try to prove a point to MF by getting 13 points. Worse still let's hope I don't forget he's riding for Wolves and start cheering him on instead of Rye😀

Quite agree - Ellis Perks back please Rye Promoters - he was well liked by us fans and he tried hard and improved his average then what do you do - let him go - bonkers.

If when all last nights farce has been looked into (or not) if it turns out Chris Holder was involved in it then I expect KL fans will be glad to send him back to you as his average has certainly dropped while riding for them and it seems obvious he would rather be at Poole, it was Matt Ford that sacked him in the first place and thats why he ended up at KL certainly not through his own choice.

Sorry to hear Rob Branford is now out for the rest of the season but he has been struggling for quite a few weeks now so hopefully we can get someone who can score points for us for the remainder of the season. Home meeting on Saturday (at last). Away next Wednesday at Kings Lynn - perhaps - after last nights debacle will there be a meeting there on Wednesday, if so will many fans bother to turn up, or will the riders even turn up and actually ride? - every cloud has a silver lining we might get a few away points, last comment said in jest before anyone takes me too seriously. As for last night it did nothing for our sport it was a complete farce and I hope if next Wednesdays meeting goes ahead it is a good one for the fans to enjoy and for speedway as a whole. (I know this is a Rye thread, but just had to make a few comments re KL as we meeting them next week)

I agree people shouldn't ride in dangerous conditions but the Referee inspects the track before the meeting and he can look again if called upon to do so, I know he doesn't ride it but he should be experienced enough to make a proper decision if he isn't then he shouldn't be a Referee. I am not disagreeing with your points just making observations. Basically the whole system from top to bottom is not working and if it is not sorted soon we won't have to make comments on this forum because there will be no Speedway meetings left in this Country to comment on.

OMG I've been following the updates and this forum re tonight's meeting and I can honestly say I've never felt so sorry for all Speedway fans as I do tonight, how can the sport I have followed since the late 60's been reduced to this sorry state of affairs. Poole may have gained 4 points tonight but Speedway has been the loser. As for Robert Lambert if fans were shouting comments etc (I have no idea what) that he didn't like he should not have sunk to their level he should have ignored them but maybe that fan/or fans were as upset as I now feel about tonight's farce and were just venting their anger and he was in the firing line. Re the forum in general, for all meetings not just this one, it would be much improved if posts/comments were kept to sensible remarks instead of some people, definitely not all, posters reducing it to a slanging match. Perhaps the moderators should start moderating.

I see from the Rye website that after this Saturday's meeting against Wolves we now only have one more Saturday meeting left which is against Swindon on 5th August as the 29th July against Kings Lynn has been re-arranged to Wednesday 9th August, all the other home meetings are Wednesdays and one on Bank Holiday Monday. I wonder if the crowds will now drop off a bit as most people seems to prefer Saturdays due to work committments etc. during the week. I have looked through both teams fixture lists and cannot see a re-arranged date for the rained off Premiership meeting earlier in the season against Swindon (unless someone on here can pick up where I might have missed the fixture) I wonder why that meeting cannot be slotted into the 29th. http://www.ryehouserockets.co/news.php?extend.1450

Sedgmen didn't ride for Ipswich tonight concussion after last Mondays crash. No update on Rob Branford either.

I know, and Rye let Ellis Perks go who is now guesting for Wolves tonight and I reckon most Rye fans would rather have Ellis than Rob as he has really improved.