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but if you knock someone out the crowd love it…..and the very fact someone has been knocked out means the brain has suffered a trauma that could cause death.

The last two years I have paid £60 each year for 12 months access Discovery+ ie Entertainment and Sport. Hugh amount of entertainment and sport wasn’t shabby either. Speedway GPs, plus whatever flavour the world pairs/team was on, British championship, good number of British Premiership. No MotoGP, but can’t have everything. So with the link between BT Sport (which did have MotoGP but not speedway, for £30 per month) I was a bit worried what the charges would be 2024 to watch speedway GP’s etc. Thinking it could be anywhere between £60 per year to £30 per month or maybe more! Pleasantly surprised to receive a notification this afternoon with a link to what is happening at TNTs, the new enterprise that encompasses BT Sport and Discovery+.. see the link I got today www.cordbusters.co.uk and scroll down looking for…. Discovery+ UK Revamp: Bigger Bills Ahead For Sports Fans There is now 3 packages available : Basic (no sport), Standard (formally Entertainment+Sport) £6.99pm, gives Basic with additional Sports content from Eurosport, Premium £29.99pm, gives Standard plus TNT Sports. So for two years been paying £5pm, for 2024 will be paying £7pm. Happy with that, really did think it was going to be well above my affordability. For Discovery+ you can use app on your mobile, tablet, computer. I recommend a ROKU streaming stick, needs a HDMI connection on your TV. Hope this helps

Don’t worry, the stands could be filled with Poles. To them Manchester will be like Torun, Warsaw or Wrocław is to a Brit. Manchester has a lot of history and is surrounded by a lot lovely countryside. Sometimes we don’t really appreciate what’s on our own doorstep, the grass is always greener thing……….and of course that also applies to a Pole living in Torun, Warsaw or Wrocław. Apart from the above, you sound like another who is advocating no world championship or similar top draw events should ever be held in Britain because potential venues in your mind are boring. Wonderful.

Correct, it’s Croatia, my mistake.

It’s the first 2024 Speedway GP, 27April, Gorican, Slovenia.

So, you got your holiday ticket booked for Donji Kraljevec??? Good luck in getting a room booked in the local village. And the racing is not so “hot” either.

Manchester City centre must be what, 1.5 mile away from NSS, and it’s as much a vibrant city centre as any cities in Poland. But you would rather have Brit fans travel 400 mile or more to a city centre elsewhere. British speedway down in the dumps and you don’t want it to have a world class event. I find that amazing. You know very well the speedway racing would be amazing at NSS. Some speedway GP tracks are in the middle of nowhere, in the middle of forest even. The racing can be lousy at some but others produce amazing racing and true supporters flock there because……. it’s speedway racing at its best. When professional speedway is dead in the UK you will be wishing people with an attitude like yours would have supported the fact a UK speedway track is deemed worthy of of top class meeting that encompasses the worlds top speedway riders.

I agree, some good riders in the eastern block who could have been serious contenders for world championship 1-2-3 if they could have got more racing in the UK Havimg said that, Plechanov, and to a slightly lesser extent Samarodov seemed to get the knack of Wembley. There would probably have been nothing like Wembley track behind the iron curtain.

Well said.

but that penalises the fans. Or perhaps you thinking there is so few of them who would care.

That's sad to hear. Was only thinking of him the other day. Heck of a nice man and a good steady rider. When he rode for Belle Vue he lived in Partington, same village where the Collins/Morton clan was from (and they were then active riding around the Collins farm). My dad had a railway arch as a garage, plenty room for dads car plus Bob's speedway bike and gear. It would be 1963 when Bob was invited to present trophies at the Manchester Gran Prix cycle speedway championship at the Carrs Wood, Gately track. He asked Mum, Dad and myself along. That was my introduction to cycle speedway, starting as a rider in the Manchester winter league that same year. Sad news indeed, but memories are priceless.

Ok, I now seen the race, twice. For me, all four back. If the ref had to see one go I would have said Holder.

Anyone know if this heat is available on you tube or anywhere?

I like Jan Kolodzeij style, about the right size for a speedway rider too. He is fast, a good gater, but too cautious. Bit like Artem Laguta and to a lesser extent, Leon Madsen.

Sad to hear this. Certainly was a caracter.

It would be interesting to know what RogerM22 considers to be a Chris Holders fluke.

No one flukes a world title……. not in modern GP times anyway.

Sad to loose another stalwart from years gone by. Condolences to his family.

But he was 5 times world long track champion, that may have been the problem. Not all could do both speedway and long track at the very top level. Seems like Simon Wigg was one of them. Get hold of his book if you can, a very good read.

So, he needs more experience. When he gates he has cracked it. Coming from behind he relies on speed, which is fine. But then you get up against someone going at the same speed or maybe a bit less and you need track craft, that you got to gain through……. Experience. When Drabik and Smektala ruled in the under 21 championship for a few years I noticed Polish speedway put them up front, they seem a bit more subdued with Cierniak…. maybe for a reason.

My take on Cierniak, he is fast but lacking experience of racing. Of course that will develop over the next few years. Like wise the other young names I listed. Time will tell who makes GP standard, probably not all in that list, and maybe some that do not look too promising today may in fact make it to the top. We will all have to wait to see how it pans out, but I don’t think today is too much different to previous periods of time.

The others….. Jan Kvech, Mads Hansen, Ben Basso, Hellstrom-Bangs, Kowalski, Ratajczak, Rew, Dreir, Pollested, Gran, Henriksson, Connor Bailey, Rowe, Blodorn, Hjerrid, Becker, Lindsey. And not all potential stars are listed, some will develop at a different rate. Whose to say half of that lot won’t get to Gp standard, so there is plenty of scope If you remember Vaculik burst on the GP scene with a first outing GP win. Found it tough so about the time Emil got injured Vaculik withdrew from GPs to “mature” as a rider, he said. He would have been about 26 when he came back to the GPs. Doyle was mature when he made it to the GPs. So for some, 26 is not past it. The future looks bright.

Really, seriously. So you don’t rate Bewley, Holder, Lambert, Kubera, Cerniak. And of course Drabik and Smektala still have time to fulfil their potential, then we have the likes of Gusts and others in the 19-22 year old class, did you not see Pederson at Vojens…..no18 in the start list performing more than adequately for a 16/17 year old in a senior GP. The future looks really good to me. If you can’t see the potential then perhaps you looking at the wrong sport……try netball or something.

Just reading the news about it. It states about a dozen national associations, including the English Football Association, publicly expressed their opposition to playing against Russia if drawn against them at either the men’s competition in Cyprus or the women’s in Sweden next year.

Pretty sure it was Medinski. Shut the door on Emil on the straight, Emil took a tumble then was run over by another rider. Watched a replay just about a week ago. Really nasty, was career threatening it was said, but he come back.