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We would like you to say more, as well Phil, but I, and hopefully others, respect that you cannot at the moment - we wait patiently...... OK, so the meeting was called off because the track was unfit for purpose..... at a great disappointment to the fans who had turned up, AND NO DOUBT AT GREAT EXPENSE TO BV WHO, PRESUMABLY, WOULD HAVE TO PAY EXPENSES TO RIDERS, adding greatly to BV's financial situation. That surely means the council/contractor has an obligation to cough up some recompense due to "faulty goods" (or whatever legal terminology), yet it appears they hav'nt and that is probably why BV refused to pay any rent. So either way, 1) run the meeting and risk council/contractor saying it must have been ok 2) cancel the meeting, loose a lot of money, and the council/contractor dont recompense for "loss of earnings" (or whatever). Sounds like BV was in a lose/lose situation, yet many are judging (without knowing all the facts) that Gordon/Morton were bad promoters. Strange.

I dont think it is the same model number, and therefore could be something totally different.

I cant remember who the 16 riders were. Can someone enlighten me please.

You probably right Foamface, quick internet reveals in Aussie at about $83Aus which is about £42, and a German site at equivalent Euros as £44.

Starman, yes the promoters knew there was a problem with the new BV track, but was it any worse then the condition of other tracks that have been raced on - the state of the Poole track springs to mind when some were saying a moto-x bike would be more appropriate....and that went on for weeks. The BV track had been ridden on by BV riders senior and junior prior to the Saturday and it was deemed ok, a problem but ok. As can be seen from the clerk of the course report/inspection, the problem was explained to the PC Memorial riders by Chris Morton before they walked the track and it appears 15 of them were ok, we know at that point TW had not arrived. The riders agreed to a controlled practice and I quote "The practice ran successfully". Then one (unnamed) rider said he didnt want to ride. Most of us on this forum have probably seen video of practice, some of the forum were there, and to me it looked rideable if not raceable. And track staff had agreed on procedures to care for the track , even between heats if necessary. It was only then that matters with riders got worse and "the riders were unanimous in their decision they did not want to ride". So we had gone from 15 riders being ok with it (one rider not in attendance) to 16 riders wanting a walk out. It would have been better if that one (whoever he was) had driven out of the pits and gone home (subject to approval of the referee (or whoever) that he could do that. The track had a problem, but was it bad enough to warrant the cancellation of a meeting (especially when worse tracks have been ridden - perhaps even during the 2016 season.). My opinion is that the meeting should have gone ahead, the track had been practiced on a few days before the meeting, immediately before the meeting, assurances given track attention would be in hand after every heat if necessary, and 15 of the riders had initially accepted, in full knowledge, of the situation. Enough information now come to light, in my mind, that 1 rider influenced 15 riders to refuse to ride. Baaad .

but that gives no indication as to whether he was for or against the meeting being called off. Which was it?

Any one remember Johnnies Marching Girls at Belle Vue in the 50's and 60's? Johnnie was Johnnie Hoskins. That was a feature at BV for many years. Livened up the meetings, needs something of the modern equivalent to liven meetings up. Make the delay between races shorther (tapes break - straight round again etc), re instate the 2nd half racing. Give the fans more value for money.

Wow ! - 42 euro for a spark plug - obviously got to be something special

What did King do in the WTC in June on a dry track?

I read in SStar that the Leicester boss will not allow Coventry to share Leicester, he knows both teams would suffer with loss of crowds.

I think its likely Darcy will be seen in some other competitive sport as soon as he gets some stability.

Dudek wanted 69 but Doyle already has that, so........ 692 it is. Actually, I got used to the numbering last year. Its only like Moto GP and they been doing it for years.

I do hope Friday turns out good for Coventry speedway (looks a bit bleak at the moment though)

You can assume all you like, this forum is full of assumptions - many of them wrong. What are you expecting as a response..... If the SS news is put back a week....its put back a week. At least we all know its put back a week.........we will have to wait a bit longer.

Thanks for that Mike, good to hear Darcy.....he sounds so positive, which he needs to be. I hope his fund raising meetings are a success.

My apololgies, the question I asked is not pointed in the right direction, so I will re-phrase Before the 2016 season ie NSS opening, does anyone know what the relationship between Dave Gordon/Chris Morton and BSPA was in reality??

Before the 2016 season ie NSS opeing, does anyone know what the relationship between Dave Gordon and Chris Morton ws in reality???

Not necessarily so, his withdrawal leaves 3 to choose from, maybe the choice of 2 or even all 3 is so close it taking time to think it out.

Thats a lot of money to be owed. I wonder if there are other Swedish teams in trouble, or maybe Danish teams. We know one or two Polish teams have their money problems (How much was Emil owed) The face of speedway could be changing dramatically, and it doesnt look good for what comes out of it.

and that is a lot of money owed. Wow.

Longtrack racing demise is a sign of the times, back in the 70's and 80's long track was very competitive and thriving..... so was speedway....... look at them now though.

I dont know the guy not the work he done for speedway, but all the comments I hear on this forum are all good..... so I really hope he has a long and happy retirement, sounds like he deserves it.

If they did "fly around europe" looking at tracks then they did a cracking job - the track is a race track 110% Maybe because Manchester City Council was stumping up the money they ruled the roost, its a large powerful council, and maybe they were more dominant then Gordon and Morton on certain issues.Who knows. No one knows what went on, no one on this forum anyway, so its all guess work, and in the process of guessing the reputation of innocent individuals could be tarnished.

Which year???? Do you mean "next year" as in 2018 ???/

Maybe in the first week of March the weather is more predictable in Gorican then in Manchester.