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Aww don't be mean about the weasel....he only got his gold star for counting up to 4 last week 😁

Can't see any real benefit in any of thse mentioned doubling up again except perhaps Harrison and Foord who i believe is in the same boat. Covering off the aspiration element there are plenty of riders who have and do aspire to be successful in the NDL, just because they don't progress to higher leagues doesn't mean they haven't had meaningful riding careers. Last season teams were padded out with plenty of these riders but largely because they still had the kit. If any/all of these riders need 2 x ignition systems, 2 x silencers and potentially new bike covers on top of licence fee's etc for potentially 4H4A how many do you think will pass?

Averages are of course a nightmare in this situation and in no way have they been considered barring initial year 1 team building. To have any credibility each league should have its own rider averages that are used for team building moving forward. For a start there is a good chance the levels could be quite different so a rider could average 8 in the trophy and 5 in the NDL. Then there is the other examples. New rider in the trophy signs on a 3, ends season on a 9. The following season he looks for a spot in the League competition too does he sign on as a 3 or a 9? With such short seasons averages won't be calculated more than twice during the trophy season anyway. The concept of allowing teams extra fixtures and a way into the sport is sound enough but as ever massively hashed together with very little consideration of where the product should be moving forward.

Previously the trophy was for teams that were already in the league that wanted extra fixtures. Now the current league setup has said 6 teams is enough with regards to rider availability and fixtures and if anyone else wants to play they have to join a separate competition and wait to be invited into the league if a place becomes available in the future. The league is already losing a few notable names and was already bolstered this year by hobby riders who were/are happy with a shortened fixture list. There will be plenty next season who only want a place in one of the competitions and only really those who have aspirations beyond NDL level will be looking for places in both.

Just like a Northern tour....set off optimistic for 3 times in 3 days but often return home having seen no action.

Because the other reserve could be weak or new to British speedway and unfamiliar with the various tracks...... Just an opinion/prediction. At the end of the season one of us will be right and the other not, its the way the world works.

Can see a few 0-5's in heat 2 for the Comets this year.

Doesn't look like Hagon fits. Mulford does and would be a great signing but can't see that happening. Hook feels most likely but also feels uninspiring.

Hagon would finish the side off and make it look pretty strong (certainly at home) however if the other reserve berth is weak/new to british speedway i can see another year of close but fall short come the play offs

Im praying its Zane Keleher 😁

I thought the same and there was an U19 event this year so potentially undermining/replacing that. Certainly no argument that track time, mentoring and equipment/vouchers are very good prizes but the initial fanfare leaves the announcement feeling a bit flat

Exactly that. Thomsen would have averaged even higher if it wasn't for returning too early from injury and has a strong riding skillset. Vinnie has a target on his back already, needs about 10 bikes a season and has a lot more ring its neck and hang on approach. The Fords only look at success for the upcoming season and Tobias was/is the smart choice.

I love Alfie but can't help he is just playing it safe/stalling his career with convenient regular Plymouth rather than push on elsewhere.

Compared to several other predicted lineups this one looks average. Reliability comes from Worrall and Harrison with the rest capable of solid scores or poor scores with little rhyme or reason. Reserve is the potential trump area if the Kennedys can find any sort of form but if not im not convinced its a side that will be unbeaten at home.

With respect thats not the finest idea. Its been tried before when the pool of emerging riders was of a far higher standard than now. A coupe of teams will snap up the cream and the others will be left with NDL 2nd strings (t best) then following year once some of those have upped averages it will get even worse.

Question whats more important a winning team or a team worth watching?

No but wording it like "its no secret we were late to the party and behind on team building so some options to us were already closed, we have built what we feel is the best team available to us and have faith in the riders but it is a learning season for us all" Instead it was a season of bluster and bullflop that nobody believed and even fewer sympathised with. Speedway fans are (mostly) a knowledgeable bunch so treat them like mushrooms at your peril.

Another thats almost been bred for success. Been racing since he was 6, a lot of parent and sponsorship funding providing the best equipment. No doubt theres talent but the bigger shock would be if he wasn't the "next big thing"

Ribbons is just using the Eagles approach as a way out and to try and martyr himself, he had no intent to run next season and the pennies have run out if he was to attempt it. Graham want to do the track only and who can blame him, he might be a stubborn begger at times but he has done far more for speedway in this country than most could ever get close to.

Big problem is that its the wrong time of year to resolve it. Ashton can and likely will spend the winter doing countless laps of very fast practice and equipment testing but will never know if the issue has been dealt with until he returns to the tapes in competitive fixtures. No doubt a huge talent but can't shake the feeling he will walk away over the next season or two.

Curse old man Spencer! To be fair that lasted an entire fixture until the Thompsons turned 19 but fun little stat to have.

Whilst i respect your viewpoint the list of riders chosen is a little skewed. Bickley, Smith, Flint, Palin to a degree and certainly cairns were known entities before they signed for the Colts. Yes Bewley, Bailey, the McGurks, the Woodhulls, Joe Lawlor, Pie Man Bowen were all chances taken that paid off but plenty were on the road to success before joining Belle Vue and several do very little away from the place. Still jealous that you get to do your regular viewing there though.

Other tie ups afterwards.....possibly Brummies vs Warwickshire speedway fixture......imagine the Tolley write up afterwards.... "i thought it was a very entertaining meeting although disappointed to lose after going in with such high hopes but they were just better out of the starts than we were"

Belle Vue do have the massive lure of a great rack to ride every week and some useful insider knowledge on setups which is crucial there. That alone has been enough to turn mediocre riders into match winners over the years, in fact its fairly safe to say if you can't increase your average at Belle Vue your not going to do it anywhere.

That Crang was a real spring chicken. Seriously though some clubs get a similar level of support win, lose or draw but others rely on a winning side to draw the numbers, its just how fickle fans can be. A smart side would be looking at tracking their number 7 plus a few riders who could progress to that position in a year or two and prepping the track similar to CL meetings not just the slick surfaces most NDL are treated to.