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At £32 id be staggered if it attracted the most hardened and affluent fan......even then who else other than that one fan will show up?

At least there is a strong chance of two home wins (given Plymouth have managed a single home win all season and Belle Vue Colts just don't do away wins). Good idea with the free program though as they will know exactly how many they require with likely eff all paying on the gate.....wonder if they will be hand drawn printed..

To be fair Kent went to Plymouth first and got an away win. Agreed that 'circumstances' changed a tough away fixture into a 4 point certainty and timing plays its part. Had the weather been nicer on the day Ablitt might have left home and Belle Vue would have won at Armadale

Purely thier terrible record on the road. Everyon was winning at Plymouth and Edinburgh last year and Belle Vue failed in both....not helped by a rider no show at Armadale that would have had a big say on the result....

Im sure i recall those innovative people over on IOW running a stock engine meeting a season or two ago (Jawa's?) where engines were drawn on lots a fitted to the machines that day. Yes there were inevitable teething problems like requiring a different front pipe and the condition of coils supplied with each engine varied but the concept was sound. Would certainly need a strong amount of time to prepare though as it would require a fair of engines to cater for just the UK and the GTR debacle showed the investment needed and timescales required. On the other side the final season with current engines would be quite hilarious as riders would stop getting them serviced knowing they will be redundant and worthless at the end of the season and run them all on until they blow up.

Definitely a juggling act. Need to keep a core most seasons to help with home track advantage. Sadly Smith never travels well which eats a big chunk of points and most teams are strong at home this year which makes the task even harder.

Also a skewed fixture list which has seen Worky run 5 home vs 1 away fixture. Luke is equally prolific on the road so his average would have still risen but perhaps not as steeply. In contrast it shows the alarming lack of form of Harry as away his scores were often not great in previous years. No team will drop a 3 pointer who has been a 7 in the past but there is a limit to how many chances people get.

To be fair full team or not Belle Vue just don't win away. They are so dialled in at thier home track (with the setup known and kept closely within camp) but largely hopeless away. Plenty of teams like it, as a visiting team to have any chance you want to be going to Belle Vue in the early fixtures not once fully dialled in.

Was never seriously suggesting the change just stating that to fit Bickley in it would mean taking out another heat leader and frankly that would be daft. Team was built to always have a strong reserve but Harrys drop in form/ability has cost the Comets dearly. Big deficit in the cup and play offs a big ask but being up, running and competitive is a success for the first season back.

Would take big / unpopular changes to fit Bickley into the side. Double change and having to fit back under the 42 limit. Not run numbers but would need to be Sam, Ace or Luke out with Crang to accommodate Bickley and a 3 pointer.

Was always going to be a humping. Kents only decent rider around belle vue was off on CL duty. Brutally several of the others just aren't up to it. Sam Woolley has been woeful all year, King fortunate but no progression and Naylors equipment is held together with chewing gum and crossed fingers. Whilst the two teams are built for differing tracks the gulf in ability shouldn't be that vast.

Excellent point. Clouting and Garrad at reserve is far stronger than Garrad and unattached guest. Kinsley and Scott alone would have likely got 4-6 from RR then everything else is a bonus.

If i personally owned/leased a track im darned if i would promote a speedway team from it. Id keep it solely as a practice venue, private hire and allow amateur meetings to run on it. Everyone of those events sees riders turn up with £40-50 to willingly hand over and have very limited expectations of what is required for their money. Contrast that with a being a promotor who has to pay riders to attend, then put up with the list of diva grumbles about the track, weather, pit bay lighting levels and square meterage not being to everyone exact liking, then often watch riders under perform or deliver questionable effort and then have to pay them again at the end. Take the two business plans to the bank managed and see what they have to say

Whilst fully within the rules (for what they are worth) keeping Killeen in the 1-7 despite the numerous changes isn't really in the spirit of NL racing....although most other clubs would do the same. Not convinced the latest move is going to strengthen the side but its probably a less risky option than sticking with RR.

Hard to argue against them being strong favourites without him anyway.

Not even sure where i pulled that misinformation from? Can't blame beer a this time of the morning either....i will go with hungry.

Perhaps that way round is part of the problem. Shouldn't the rethink be bottom to top......sort the grassroots levels out and filter the success up not down? There are scores of riders who still drive around the country at amateur, development and NL level at big personal losses purely because they enjoy the sport. There are scores of riders in the Prem who could/should/would have packed up a while ago had the level been higher but instead they are able to milk every drop from the ageing cash cow and know the sport is reliant on them. All the while the money is thrown at riders pension pots rather than the emerging talents UK speedway will never recover.

18 points is pretty healthy and Bowtell for Morley is an upgrade although Hook for Ablitt is a downgrade. Belle Vue are usually good for mid 50s at home so i suspect they will sneak the bonus point late on.

I wonder which Island lee borrowed those ideas from....

Everyone wins at Home against Belle Vue so safe there, not so much against Leicester. Away at Oxford...forget it and but an outside chance of revenge against Edinburgh

Congreve gets away with it on b hence he was signed on a 4.50 for NL. Strangely didn't have English grandparents when he signed for Newcastle but thats a whole other story.

c above (c what i did there) assuming CoS is Certificate of Sponsorship and NL teams can't hold these.......

So basically Turner needs a CL team to get a NL place (and since Plymouth stopped him joining NL sides hes stuffed now). Turner also gets lumbered with a 9.00. That is unless he is now classed as having an established average in the CL then he can sneak in on an 8.00 like Pearson and Hook did......clear as mud right. 013.2 RIDER MATCH AVERAGES AND GRADINGS Riders in the National League must hold an ACU licence and an SCB Registration. a) New riders with a British Passport will enter the NDL on a 3.00 MA Speedway Control Bureau Regulations 126 b) Commonwealth riders new to British Speedway that do not require a CoS (ancestry rights) will enter on a 4.50 MA c) Commonwealth riders new to British Speedway that do require a CoS will enter on a 9.00 MA and will be required to be included in a Championship Team Declaration d) Commonwealth riders with an established average in either the Premiership or Championship League, with less than 50 matches recorded on the official BSP Green sheets, can be included on their converted MA. Any Commonwealth rider who has participated in 50 or more official Green Sheet matches, at time of declaration, is ineligible.

Only older one that comes to mind is Complin whilst Luke Muff is 6 months younger than Boxall. That said nobody used to complain when Mason, Armo and Tony Atkin were all competing

So basically Turner needs a CL team to get a NL place (and since Plymouth stopped him joining NL sides hes stuffed now). Turner also gets lumbered with a 9.00. That is unless he is now classed as having an established average in the CL then he can sneak in on an 8.00 like Pearson and Hook did......clear as mud right. 013.2 RIDER MATCH AVERAGES AND GRADINGS Riders in the National League must hold an ACU licence and an SCB Registration. a) New riders with a British Passport will enter the NDL on a 3.00 MA Speedway Control Bureau Regulations 126 b) Commonwealth riders new to British Speedway that do not require a CoS (ancestry rights) will enter on a 4.50 MA c) Commonwealth riders new to British Speedway that do require a CoS will enter on a 9.00 MA and will be required to be included in a Championship Team Declaration d) Commonwealth riders with an established average in either the Premiership or Championship League, with less than 50 matches recorded on the official BSP Green sheets, can be included on their converted MA. Any Commonwealth rider who has participated in 50 or more official Green Sheet matches, at time of declaration, is ineligible.