Sings4Speedway

Given that one of the ban years was served during the 2020 season that never happened. Surely those years can't count towards the 3 year absence? The ban was imposed August 2018 so surely the 3 years away hasn't been reached yet? 010.2.3 Amended MA’s With the approval of the BSP LTD GC or Directors for: - a) riders who have been absent from British Speedway racing for more than 3 seasons (The MA may be increased or decreased) b) riders who have been absent for more than 1 full season due to a speedway injury

Drops from 9.49 to 7.97 after an enforced time out.......what a joke.

But would/will Turner be back over next season? Boxall signed on a 2 year deal wouldn't have enough meetings to drop his average down either (think he finished on 9.49 and no way should he be allowed a reduction for enforced time out). Berwick need to look largely at what they did this season and then do the exact opposite. EDIT - literally just opened the new greensheets and there it is Boxall on 7.97 what an absolute farce. Sure he will drop that nicely over the next couple of meetings and then sign further south next year.

Wasn't saying anyone was on that. I was saying that as a potential average across a 1-7 would be the max clubs could possibly afford and thats with 2000+ fans a week. Facts are clubs simply cannot afford to support the current level of rider demanded (or current level of rider demands) something has to or already is giving in a very big way.

Been done to death but basic figures that are likely way under what is actually being paid out shows the position PL teams are in. 2000 spectators at £22 = £44,000 (less vat = £35200) based on 100 points paid out (50 home and away) that allows for £350 per point....higher or lower etc as long as the average is £350 per point (and completely ignoring guarantees etc) The 12 home fixtures at £10,000 a meeting to host (rent, medical, flights, fuel, tyres etc) as covered means sponsorships of at least £120,000 per season. Then add all the bells a whistles like vans, visas, accommodation, workshops, race suits, bike covers, team wear and other pre season costs, bonds etc its certainly not hard to see how teams who aren't getting 2000+ fans a week and don't have very good sponsorships are going to fall by the wayside very soon.

I was told Turner signed a few weeks ago so guessing thats fallen through?. Either way as covered by other posters the season is over, 3 matches left and no possibility of getting in the playoffs so why waste any money on new signings.

A huge factor is that one size doesn't fit all. Talk of clubs like Poole, Oxford and Glasgow being incentivised to move up? what incentive, lose the preferred race night of current supporters, lose the ability to turn a reasonable profit at a level that is providing entertainment. A huge amount of teams in the UK are running at least one level above where they can survive/afford and invariably these teams are then tracking weaker sides, losing matches and sliding slowly towards folding altogether. Barry and co on IOW are not geniuses but they know what their audience responds to and how to operate within their budget, of course the Nora approach won't be for all but thats the point, with so many individual business 'people' the rules and operating model will never reflect fairness across the board. Plenty of sports have seen boom and bust over the years maybe its simply Speedways inevitable turn?

To be fair Jack Smith hates Iwade, he was tripe when Belle Vue came last season and i was shocked he bothered to make the trip this time (probably wishes he didn't). As for Brum the name ive heard thrown around will excite nobody (again)

Disaster for Kent in front of a decent crowd. Mwssing with the track a few days before a meeting and chucking down shale just because they have been donated it is madness. Losing a rider through injury is always dissapointing but losing the faith of loyal paying fans is even worse.

Looking back over the predictions thread and the vast majority had Berwick in the bottom two. Have to admit that i didn't see as many poor home defeats coming but it was an uninspiring team when built and not sure if the changes have added any strength at all.

Can see an absolute Oxford maullibg dished out today. 1-7 side by side only Naylor looks better in his position than his opposite number. Its going to take any team something special to stop Oxford this year.

There are non so blind than those who won't listen.

Im confident enough to form my own opinions from my own experiences. As i said most great champions have a strong arrogant streak, a belief that they will achieve at the highest level. There are also many more who are arrogant, won't be told and have gone on to waste their talents.

Arrogance is a blessing for some and a curse for others.....

I suspect Mulford is going to want a bit of stopping as he's on a bit of a hot streak atm. For the rest of the podium it will be riders who don't throw points away with falls or engine failures. Wouldn't be shocked to see Trigger on the podium either.

No reason that the whole team couldn't get full or paid max's. Only squabbling would be who gets the bonus ride in heat 15 (all hypothetically of course).

To be fair he has been out practicing and was on the IOW the week before but i get what you mean definitely fast for no actual recent racing. As ever the talent will always remain but how long will the focus and dedication. A 35 year old in need to two decent bikes (and other kit) with a history of poor machinery maintenance and temprement. Its always a pleasure to watch Steve but would anyone want to rely on him every week?

It has a salary cap for the majority of the squad but with so many exceptions (can't actually remember how many). Either way the caps are far too high and 3 clubs into administration this year already. Far too many speedway teams follow the same principles of tracking teams they simply cannot afford.

The only reason i know is because i was questioning how they lined up and was equally surprised.

Because thats working so well in Rugby Union.....clubs need a budget to work to that is proven to be affordable otherwise the few that are left will go like many before them.

Lyden has to be at number 2 as his average is 3.50. If all three riders (Lyden, Wood and Simpson) were on 3.00 it would have to be Simpson in the 1-5 owing to him previously having a higher average than the other two.

He quit the NL team too. They then swapped in Clegg. Think the morale is good at Northside currently don't know if KB would offer a great deal to the side.

My bad should have put without....

Obviously decided that they needed to slow her down a bit to make it fairer.

So riders like Clegg, Kinsley, Mulford, Kingston who all started the season without NL spots or Bebee, Rathbone or Douglas who started on the sidelines rather than being able to take the place occupied by Congreve. If there is a limited amount of heat leaders why lobby to increase the points limit (other than to accommodate Bickley and Hook). As it happens nope not the biggest fan of the Marson situation either but just like Wood theres nothing i can do about it. I will always admire your commitment and support of your club Blobby but as an outsider looking in my view (for the limited value it has) is that the Edinburgh academy is a distance away from where it could/should be.