Shale Searcher

So, there's 2 riders at least that should not be eligible to ride edr/2017 equivalent for Poole or Belle Vue next season....

Totally agree, but we don't seem to have enough "good enough" riders to run 8 fully self staffed elite league teams, I don't want to see 3 more teams made up of recycled journeyman, with a recycled edr at 7, and a familiar guest at 1 or 3 every other week either.... You know, without a fresh influx of "new" riders, perhaps from abroard, I don't know how anything will change, especially with Poland's "Iron Curtain" restricting its team places/riders choices.. Perhaps we are doomed..

The big problem in the Elite League, is when we get overprotective about young British Riders....... We say things like "lets have 2 young drafted British kids at reserve, they stay there all season, fine for the club's that got good ones, less so for the club's that got the poor ones.... So, we do the same again the second yr, but allow some to stay where they are, move some on, and introduce a couple of new ones... Year 3, because of the protected rides, most have not improved by riding in the most, the same riders last 2 yrs, so we go with in yr 3 they can move out of reserve, of at least one of them can, and because of that system in yr 2 there's no true British EL second strings around, so when a young British reserve does make it into the main body, you end up with a ringer foreigner 2nd string dropping into reserve!! And there have been examples at Poole, Swindon, Leicester and Wolves of this and it blows the having 2 Brits at reserve out the water!! If you say next season, all EL club's have to track 2 British under 20, or 21 say at reserve, the only way to keep that true is track 2 kids, that will stay there and improve, but keep em there all season, get rid of heat 12 as a protected heat and just keep the 1-5 averages grouped seperately from the reserves..... Or bin the 2 young Brits idea at reserve altogether, and go back to how it was, pre draft ideas....

A lot of stuff starting on this date, could end up being a milestone date of speedway in years to come!!

Where have you seen that DTC?

Also, we need to cut loose the the time served draft riders... How? I'm not sure, but cut loose they must be, otherwise they will not develop further in UK speedway, the "draft rider" tag alone, holds them back, wether by the will of "their club" or their "own will" as being in a "safe" "comfortable" zone... They should be promising, inexperienced, young British Riders in the draft, not experienced, "TRUMP CARDS" as some have become, whilst still remaining in the "kids club" end of the team, crikey, there are riders in the draft that are like 20 something's still in yr 2 at school!!

If a rider is looked at as a "steal" on a particular average, then patently it's "NOT" a real world average, it's somehow contrived/manipulated to suit.. and should be thrown away/disregarded and an assessment made by the authorities.. Kyle Newman a 3.79? So you are saying on average, in the elite league, he should ave 3.79 points per 4 races?? So he finishes third or worse most of the time in the elite league... How can you in all honesty, actually say that???

Sorry, but the track wasn't waterlogged, it had a solid base, admittedly, the top dressing was wet, but was drying out, the riders were to blame for this farce, the main protagonist being Shlein, and the rest of the sheep followed his lead.. We've all seen speedway start with wet tops, once you've had 3 to 4 races, the shale gets turned over and dry lines appear.... Every man and his/her dog thought this would go ahead, in this instance, the riders were to blame.

He wants to race again, team manager perhaps isn't the same sort of "adrenaline rush" that racing provides!!!! Money is probably better racing as well!

Ahhh, like Jason Doyle did with Leicester...... 3 yr deal as I was lead to believe, DH did lots of work to sort that out for Loyal Doyle, and he blew us out when he got his GP status after 2 yrs.... So deals aren't worth the paper they are written on!!

Ahh, we're talking about grass track, not speedway then?

Thirded ...... What happened to Silverbee??

Yes. but it's not a "can't" ride in the UK, it's "won't" be riding in the UK..... His choice, not the rules prohibiting him from riding UK..

But, does doubling up cause riders to stagnate? Become comfortable, the income from riding for 2 teams, in 2 leagues, negates their ambition/need to get better? Could it cause the UK speedway scene to be totally populated by average British Riders? A third rate national team forever? The riders would become devoid of the need to improve their speed/skill/equipment and basically go no further in speedway?

But, it could be tuned more precisely to Freddies riding style, for example, faster from the gate, or higher top end speed, or quicker mid-range acceleration, or....... Basically same procedure that riders do with their GM'S or JAWA'S, it would probably weaken the engines reliability, make it slightly more frsgile but probably not as fragile as the other engines currently are?

What "was" this German Engine?

Woffinden said "in Poland, you can use a new tyre for "EVERY" race, making set ups so much easier... That would be another added cost for Promoters in the UK EL... Don't also forget, that the Premier League voted to scrap "New Tyres" completely in their League, because PL promoters couldn't afford to provide ""New Tyres"!!! So the PL is obviously in really good health! Not!

Think Go-Speed is a canker of British Speedway, it really holds it back media wise...

So, that means losing Zagar and Frocks, promote the 2 second strings to those positions, EDR'S move to second strings and have 1 New young British (under 21) and one under 21 foreigner!!

The Titanium ban was lifted by the FIM, but I suppose the BSPA/SCB could have still kept the ban in place for League stuff, but, that would be incredibly difficult to monitor/police at meeting level.... There's only so much machine examiners can do without taking apart engines on race nights...

I can't lay my hands on an old Wolves prog at the moment either...! Never around when you really need one!

I'm not convinced it's all tikketyboo over in Poland, either... Team running costs are astronomical compared to UK... I know crowds a big (compared to UK) but so are rider wages... Wouldn't take a lot to destabilize the Polish set-up..

Bwitcher, do you know track dimensions before/after alterations, lengths/widths....?

What? You mean you've heard them call some of the crowd "IDIOTS" in a live TV interview? Who, when, where? Because I haven't.. This is my only gripe, the LIVE TV interview, the rest was banter, high jinx, verbals and gestures... The TV interview was my gripe...

It's a right old mess, isn't it..... Fans want more meetings, riders want less meetings!! So, if we went with 9 teams, ride each twice, giving 32 basic league fixtures, who are we saying will drop the UK...? Tai Woffinden Chris Holder Freddie Lindgren Jason Doyle Andreas Jonsson Apart from Jason Doyle, the other GP riders above have already missed seasons in the UK citing crowded fixtures as the reason... We managed then, we will manage now.. Don't forget, if Poland have their way, the decision of the above riders to ride here, will be out of our hands..... It's a difficult one. Isn't it..!!!