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Did Peter Karlsson have a real bad one at Lynn as well, in a World Championship Round/test match? A Really bad injury....? Or is that someone else I'm thinking of...

Who did then?

Why?? That would put a new promoter on the wrong footing from day 1, that really wouldn't be fair on him/them/her, would it...?

Fair enough, but if he's owed "thousands" it's got to have been a rider......

Ok, so Leicester don't come out of this "farce" very well, I admit that, but let's face a fact, the BSPA haven't actually helped the situation with the ridiculous level of fines issued over the "FLOODLIGHTGATE" episode..

That's the reserves done and dusted then....!!

Don't think it's gonna be binned as such, just re-packaged/branded because the riders won't be "drafted" the ones that have been part of it for 3 yrs, will be moved to second string, the others will move to/stay at 6 and a new raft of no 7's to be allowed, British, under 20's that have no main body exp in Prem or El league exp, perhaps Inc ex- draft guest riders, not inc the old hands.....

If teams were limited to a combined 6 & 7 ave of 7 pts, you could go with a 5 pointer, and a 2 pointer, or two 3.5ers, just a way of distributing the reserves, whilst allowing teams an element of choice, and stopping a reserve ringer being hired.... (Not enough pts left if your no 6 is a 3.5 to 5 pointer, you will still be able to take a punt on 2 point rider..

So they could change that to a 2 for team building purposes..... Right?

As in sorting out a van/flights/accomidation if required/ other fringe benefits? Is this what you mean?

Why would he bother, if he didn't have anything to ride when here!!! Do KL have a "Track Spare" Leicester don't!!

Any info regarding this meeting tonight? Is 8 points enough for Sheffield?

Why? So you saying there's no riders anywhere in Europe, that could attain a 2 pt average? Or It could be created if needed by conversion, a 3.79 NL average converted up to a PL or EL average?

In a sport where it's competitors are so much more prone to injury, and compete in different Leagues around Europe, why oh why do we expect to hear the line ups so far in advance?? In most other sports, most teams aren't declared until the day of the contest/match, even Premier League football, or any football match, you only get a squad announced before they've warmed up!! If you went to see Leicester City at Chelsea on Saturday, specifically to watch Riyad Mahrez, he didn't start the game!! What if you'd gone to see Man City v Barcelona last night to watch Aguerro, he was benched.. What is this fixation in Speedway about knowing fully the teams make up days before the meeting? In the "good old days" it was perhaps easier to name your 1 to 7, they didn't globe trot all over Europe, if they got injured, you knew about it.... Now riders can even be injured on the same day as your teams meeting!!!

What about grouping reserve/err riders? Say teams are allowed 8 points combined for Reserves, so you could have a 6 pointer, but you could only them get someone on a 2, or a 5 and a 3? Or make it lower, 6 to play with, a 4 pointer and 2 pointer etc.....

It needs a larger number of teams, 12 would be a good start, Sheffield, Rye House, Ipswich and Somerset to move up? Giving 22 EL fixtures.. Stoke and an other to go PL? 1 New team goes NL?

Why can't riders have a combined world league racing average?

Couldn't they just remove heat 2 and 12 from the average calcs for the edr/reserves?

Do we actually know for fact riders are owed lots of money? I know people have said that they've been told by someone who's bezzie mate knows the girlfriend of whoever......... But, do we know all the facts? No We do not know enough to categorically say anything really about monies owed/not owed to riders, I would love someone who races for Leicester to actually state "I haven't been paid in full by Leicester, for services rendered on track this season" Doubt we'll here anything though until after October 31st 2016 And then I would still doubt it.... Other tracks are rumoured to owe riders monies as well, are they not?

So, the only way anyone will use him in the EL league is going to have to plead for his EL average to be converted down to a PL average, then that figure converted back to an EL average, and whoopie doo, he's back at Poole as an EDR again...!!!! Crikey, these promising edr riders that improve are going to get locked-in to reserve!! Something is very wrong with British Speedway, very wrong..

Do you really believe that...?

But, he is not a 7 point rider, he's the current world champion!!!! Should have been reassessed on his current "Live" league scores from Poland and Sweden..... Which would have probably meant Wolves would have had to get rid of 2 riders, which I bet they wouldn't have wanted to do...... So although not cheating, wasn't really within the spirit of sportsmanship, was it??

They won't want his EL average used, why not use his NL average, or won't that be advantageous enough....

Why the need for a list? Surely A line needs to be drawn, max age, not previously ridden EL and UK born is all that's needed, then let the promotors dig them out, scout them out........

So, are you saying that Kyle Newman and others of that ilk like Paul Starke, Kyle Howarth, Josh Auty, Steve Worrall, etc should be EDR/2017 equivalent riders in 2017? If they cannot make it as second strings now in the top league, then maybe, just maybe they do belong in the Premier League/2nd tier of UK Speedway, otherwise there's no opportunity for more younger generation..... We'll end up with a plethora of 21+ something riders of good edr level riders and no new second strings, and consequently, no EL heat leaders and above, we'll be completely cut off from world team speedway, and no GP riders other than Tai Woffinden......!!