Shale Searcher

Well, that would make the Premier League the top league, in effect the new Elite League!!!! We need the UK to have an Elite League, it's needed to develop premier league riders for GP rides/places, is a natural step on the route to the top, take it away, and speedway as a professional sport dies....

Stoke/Cradley to PL possibly?

UK riders don't seem to have much luck in Poland/Sweden do they? The UK riders names/home Country are possibly not exciting/cosmopolitan as being an "Aussie" There don't seem to be so many UK Whizzkids" Ours mostly seem to aspire at becoming and then staying as "EDR's" Maybe?

Up to EL? Somerset Kent Kings Ipswich Possibly?

I suppose these instances were only witnessed by fans if they were there as well, or if brief highlights were shown on ITV World Of Sport, in one of their two sports special slots, or via a VHS weeks after. And again, only by fans of the sport.... These instances weren't being discussed "As it happened" all over social media, YouTube, etc......... But you're right, they did happen, possibly more frequently than in modern day Speedway.

"We can put a man on the moon, but can't get a helmet cover to stay on" Or words to that effect... Priceless, best speedway commentator, bar none at speedway and darts..... Was speaking about him only this morning on the way to Beaumont Park to take down the airfence...... RIP Dave Lanning, best wishes to his family and friends..

First meeting ever, was I think Leicester Lions v Newport Wasps or Coventry Bees.... Remember the riders in white helmet and yellow and black had "Wasps or Bees" on their race jackets... Never missed a home Leicester meeting from around 1976 to 1983 when Blackird Rd closed.. I also got involved with marshalling at Leicester, the same season as Tony Steele started marshalling at Leicester, and got involved marshalling at Kings Lynn and Peterborough as well.. I them switched my allegiance to Long Eaton until they closed.. Then only went to British Finals, the odd Lions select v whoever during the Leicester barren years, oh and started going th Cardiff from the get go.. I am now involved with track prep, flagging, machine examining, mostly at Leicester, + I now flag at Cardiff, and machine examine at the UK rounds of the SWC.... Interesting times ahead, mostly worrying though....

If their are to be NO GP RIDERS in the EL in 2017, it's imperative that every club has ONE genuine No1, otherwise, the teams will be unbalanced, really need to know the outcome of the AGM before any team building can take place....

In the Golden Era of Speedway, looking behind you was an excludable offence!!! You simply weren't allowed to look back..... End Of!!!!!

Well, my DVD player hasn't worked due to a poor effort on my part (getting my HDMI, SCART, cable colours wrong!! So, watched the following last night.... Leicester v Wolverhampton (Gulf British) League 1979 I think.. Then, Sheffield v Leicester (League Cup) 1983 Then, Leicester V Hull, (League Cup) 198! Then Kings Lynn v Leicester, (British League) 198! Dave Jessup had 2 EF'S whilst in heat winning positions! The crowd at the Lions v Wolves was about 3,500 I think, Dave Lanning said it was a tad sparse! Don't think the racing was as good as I remember, think the crowd size, and interaction with riders was 100% better..... Then, topped the evening off watching "Bill Fox" smoking all and sundry in "ONCE A JOLLY SWAGMAN"!!!

Would having a minimum weight for flywheels work? I know if would be difficult to police, but I suppose they could then bring in even more exotic materials, to make them smaller, but heavier..

From what I have heard, the Lions will be running in the BEL in 2017, albeit a radically altered league... I sincerely hope they do, however, running on a week day night, will severely impact on the amount of time I spend at the track on race days, and pre-race days... As long as we survive and put the last 12 months or so behind the club, then I'm ok with that....

Steering stabilizers HAVE been used in speedway, and may still be used as far as I know...

It's happened before, in all sorts of speedway competitions, and riders/teams have gotten away with it.... Perhaps this was the straw that broke the camels back? Hancock should have made a better job of the faux pas, perhaps looked down at his engine, or cut out, fuel taps, or something, instead of just slowing and leaving a hole the size of the USA for Holder to go through!!!

I think this decision had to be made like this on the day because of the amount of critical heats leading to being a GP rider or not in 2017, it was so tight, favours could easily have been asked for, and given for race points..... And therefore GP places for 2017...

Ok, so who'll be in/on it? How many per team? Min/Max age/exp qualifying Criteria? 2016 Scheme Riders that should move into A teams 1-5? How will the schemes riders be allocated? Protected/Not protected heats? Firstly, we need to establish those that should not be included in the 2017 Scheme, due to now having been included since inception and must now either move into a teams 1-5 or are just not good enough for the Elite League? (Hard, but must be done to make room for the next batch of rising British Riders) 1) 2) 3) 4) 5) 6) 7) 8) 9) 10)

Track taking on water? It gets Leeched out the atmosphere this time of year at an incredible rate... Resulting in heavy shale, mid corner berm build up, difficult to distribute the shale on track in these types of conditions....

Is this another example of bike hits airbag, rider goes underneath it?? (Don't want to clog thread with this subject, so a simple yes/no will suffice) Cheers

Personally I don't want to watch Premier League racing at Leicester if at all possible, been there, done that, got the T-shirt...... I would prefer an expanded Top league, so you get different teams rather than the same old 7 teams, twice every season.. Revert to pre-edr format (total team ave not more than 39 pts. 1 GP rider, or over 8.00 allowed 8, 9, 10 of the best of the 3 yr trained edr's to ride at no 2 or 4 (1 per team minimum) No 6 and No 7, Brita only combined ave not to exceed 7pts, from all previous edr's/edr guests, from PL or NL, so you could have say a 5 pointer at no 6, and a 2 pointer at 7, say a Bewley, or Hume type of rider, but not a Wilko. So that's around 19/20 pts used So no's 2, 3, and 5 have 20 pts to play with... and you can have who the hell to fill those places except a GP rider, or another 8pt +er..... Don't have a working example of a team based on the above build, so if SCB/anyone else build a team with this criteria **** a 2 point reserve****** Anyone from the NL or PL that has not had more than 6 meetings in a PL or EL team, but qualifies for NL, not including old hands (over 20yrs) (They will be given the 2 point status for team build purposes) 1) 2) 3) 4) 5) 6) 7)

It has to be because you can't go into a motorcycle shop, and buy a new/second-hand speedway machine, and then ride it home!!! Has anyone ever converted a speedway bike into a road going, legal bike? Surely someone has, at some point in time, even as a barmy project! Brakes, lights, re routing exhaust, right footpeg, suspension travel, electrical power, convert engine to petrol, perhaps a grass tracker gearbox and Bob's your uncle!!!!

No, so maybe it wasn't PK.. Someone hit the fence turn two, maybe coming out turn two, and ended up with some sort of broken back injury, it was definitely not any sort of league match, could have been an American then, or? It was a hot hot day, intercontinental/overseas Final perhaps, so before GP days.......

What happened to Garcia??

You can't replicate wear and tear on man and machine and track, they tried a new pairing formula as well as other ideas, I even believe a one minute time allowance was tried, and various gate choice situations, imediate tac subs and all sorts of things over the 2 tests...

Got them mixed up, all a much of a muchness though, aren't they....

No, SS, they were actually ran....