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I'm astonished more than anything. You normally seem to be in denial about how poor the meetings have been so far this season.

You get people moaning in all walks of life though every single place you go you will find that and I find it astonishing that people would not turn up because of that I've never heard anything like it. I know plenty of people who have stopped coming recently but for the more obvious reasons as stated above entertainment, poor results and so on.

What do you mean step up to the mark?

Slaver

You been on this?

All racing is real racing I'd rather win the league cup than nothing.

That's why they charge £17 to get in.

Totally agree after two home defeats on the bounce I am totally deflated and the thought of watching two poor teams hardly excites me We should win by ten but it's nothing to be excited about Scunthorpe are weak this season.

We will be lucky to get 30.

Can't complain paying that if your as good as they are year in year out I wouldn't mind paying an extra £2 if we were as good as them.

I think you'll find your in the minority I stand with a group of maybe a dozen some like me attend as many meetings home and away as possible some are a more casual fan that doesn't follow speedway and Berwick as closely as myself Not one of them were happy after last night the result combined with a poor nights entertainment I will go next week if I can I'm not going to walk away because I care about the team and I would find it hard not to go but it know a couple that won't be coming next week and they don't come on here posting it either but like many others they can't see the value for money You can bang on about bad luck and yes it hasn't been an ideal start injury wise but whoever they bring in for Matic and even when Barker is fully fit I simply do not see how we can compete with the likes of Edinburgh, Glasgow and so on and if the entertainment does not improve I can only see crowd numbers falling I don't know what the answer is whether it's a case of if nothing improves make team changes or whether we need to make the track a bit rougher but something needs to be done Maybe the promotion should have a fans forum evening so we can try and help but after the whole thing with the Supporters Club and VIP Club who knows? I'm just saying you seem to be in the minority I agree more people come on here to moan than anything else but I think if you asked every fan who turned up last night whether they were happy with what they saw then I think the 'moaners' would be in the majority.

We would have been better tonight without Barker.

You can blame the track as much as you want and I might be in the minority here but I want us to win more than anything whether it's a good meeting or not if we lose I'm disappointed As poor as the track was the Monarchs had there gating gloves on which is paramount at Berwick, the riders should be getting more flak imo.

Best laugh of the night 😂

In a word embarrassing Beaten by our closest rivals and no entertaining racing at all Barker clearly wasn't fit enough I didn't think this team was up to much when it was announced and I think even less of it now.

Rider replacement should help us but is Barker 100% yet? We should probably win this but it's Edinburgh and Cookie so I can see an away win being on the cards after we take a healthy lead and blow it. Cookie to clean house and then slate Berwick on twitter

Fair point I was just going by the official greensheet averages on the BSPA site

I thought Simon Stead finished top of the averages last season? Stead, King and Cook are the top 3 in the league imo with Barker, Kennett and the like not far behind The difference is, all of the above apart from Cook have found there level Cook still has a chance to progress.

That teams as bad as my Leigh Lanham shout.

You obviously haven't seen half the teams Berwick have assembled over the past 10 years then

Tero Aarnio would start the season on 5.54 and more than likely finish the season somewhere near they he is a gap filler if no other options are left but he wouldn't be my choice If we stick with Allen and have 19.50 left to play with how about Anders Mellgren 6.57 Leigh Lanham 4.90 Ben Wilson 4.86 Nathan Greaves 3.00 Leaves us with 0.17 to play with Granted that team won't exactly be world beaters but people like Lanham can help young Allen along and I see a lot of Sheffield fans were disappointed Ben Wilson didn't get re-signed It's just an idea so that at least we have one reasonably strong reserve to cover if Allen is struggling.

I don't think Sitera was booted due to under performing it was so we could fit Lubos Tomicek in personally I wouldn't have booted him as early as we didn't see enough of him to know what he would be like, he did in the end go to Glasgow and was pretty poor but so was Tomicek so swings and roundabouts there Sike yeah they got it right by booting him after a handful as he was never going to set the league alight I just think we do let some riders just hang about for way too long, Robin Aspregen for instance did nothing for a full season and still managed to see it out It just confuses me sometimes some of the decisions that have been made.

In 2013 all the changes were forced on us due to injury and all the changes that came with that In 2012 as you say we used 17 riders, of those 17 10 of them were injured at some point during the season and we also made some big errors with signings at the start of the season and had to sack Filip Sitera after a handful of meetings to fit in replacements once again a lot of these changes were forced In 2011 we had 3 riders who were replaced by injury and the other changes were getting rid of Tamas Sike why we signed him in the first place who knows and we replaced Charlie Gjedde who was garbage and was in the team for far too long in 2010 6 of our 10 riders were injured at some point during the season forcing changes again in 2009 we only had one injured rider but we also let William Lawson stay for way too long.

You make changes, sign different riders, get rid of certain riders, one area we have certainly lacked in is our inability to replace under performing riders during the season we seem to give them way longer than they deserve, change the team management and so on and so forth You don't just stand still and let it pass you by.

You've lost me with that statement?